Best Bond film, full stop / period.

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  • Posts: 4,044
    It's got to be 1962 to 1969. The rate they turned the films out with lots of innovation, thrills, good stories and largely consistent.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    For me the best Bond film would be the one that mixes both ends of the series - the OTT fair and the serious cold-war thriller.

    So, simple answer: Octopussy.

    We should listen to @DaltonCraig007 , man knows what he's talking about.

    :-bd
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2016 Posts: 15,718
    Glad you agree, @Benny ! :-c
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    ENNNHH! Wrong guess Hans.
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Silly silly British people

    Is there any chance you could hire P&W to write you some new one liners as it gets rather tiresome when you repeat them in every other post?
    Don't guess wrong & don't be silly and I shan't be repeating myself.
    ;)
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    For me, FRWL. I don't have a favorite anymore ...depends on my mood.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    From Russia With Love - without even a moment's hesitation..

    pointless gypsy fight aside (not the gun fight, but the two women fighting each other), it is a top notch, simple straight forward thriller - the cat and mouse game with Grant stalking Bond is fantastic stuff... the last half of the film on the train is solid gold..

    getting into the Bond films as a young kid during the broz years, I got this film on VHS for Christmas one year, and it has been my absolute favorite since the first time i saw it.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    ENNNHH! Wrong guess Hans.
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Silly silly British people

    Is there any chance you could hire P&W to write you some new one liners as it gets rather tiresome when you repeat them in every other post?

    you're so good @TheWizardOfIce .... especially when you're baaaaaad.

    ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited April 2016 Posts: 17,804
    HASEROT wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    ENNNHH! Wrong guess Hans.
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Silly silly British people

    Is there any chance you could hire P&W to write you some new one liners as it gets rather tiresome when you repeat them in every other post?

    you're so good @TheWizardOfIce .... especially when you're baaaaaad.

    ;)
    Yeah, the Wiz is a Wiz of a stinging wit I must admit, because because because,
    Because of the wonderful wit he is!
    Okay, I'll try to be less repetitive in future, K?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Pointless gypsy fight!?!
    Gypsy fights are never pointless. Have you not seen Pacific Rim?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I saw FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE!
    A very different kind of Gypsy Danger

    :D
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited April 2016 Posts: 4,399
    for the plot of the film, what point did it serve?.. it's just to see two beautiful barely clothed women roll around on top of each other..................................... ok... that may not be such a bad thing....... lol..

    but in seriousness, it wasn't necessary, could've been axed and it wouldn't have made a difference.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    edited April 2016 Posts: 3,000
    Die Another Day.



























    Actually, Goldfinger. (Had you going). :))
  • edited April 2016 Posts: 1,817
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Pointless gypsy fight!?!

    It is particularly pointless because it isn't resolved, we don't even find out which one wins in the end!!!

    But reflectively, many things in many Bond films are pointless, let's be honest.
  • As far as I'm concerned GE IS a perfect film. The pace is perfect, or nearly perfect. The ensemble is perfect. The much maligned score fits very well. One of Brosnan's better performances. Action is probably the best in the series. Scenes are all written very well. Personal without being too personal.
  • Posts: 4,325
    Not being American I think I misread the subject thread - I read Best Bond Period as period of time rather the Best Bond film. The best Bond film is undoubtedly Casino Royale.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited April 2016 Posts: 9,020
    "Best Bond film period" means THE best Bond movie? and not a period of time?
    I'm confused, but then I've learned British English...maybe that's why.

    In that case it's definitely without the shadow of a doubt:


    GOLDENEYE
  • Posts: 4,325
    "Best Bond film period" means THE best Bond movie? and not a period of time?
    I'm confused, but then I've learned British English...maybe that's why.

    In that case it's definitely without the shadow of a doubt:


    GOLDENEYE

    Yes I was confused why people were choosing just one Bond film - stiff arsed Brit I am I guess
  • Oh yes you are all right I had read it wrong -

    When people say period they sometimes mean '.' that is, they are trying to emphasise it. Therefore 'best bond film, period' might mean 'the definitively best bond film'.
  • Well, best Bond period is a toss-up between 60s and 80s.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    Hmm. The lack of punctuation between "film" and "period", and the fact that I'm from Australia, threw me off. Yes, I get it. They were trying to say the best Bond film, no questions asked ("period"). I took it as "the best era of Bond".

    Still Casino Royale, I think. FRWL is an incredibly close second.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited April 2016 Posts: 9,020
    Hmm. The lack of punctuation between "film" and "period", and the fact that I'm from Australia, threw me off. Yes, I get it. They were trying to say the best Bond film, no questions asked ("period"). I took it as "the best era of Bond".

    Still Casino Royale, I think. FRWL is an incredibly close second.

    CR is one of the 5 best at least, yes.

    What I would like to know, does it not bother you that CR misses so many of the iconic and established items like Q, gun-barrel, Bond James Bond, Moneypenny, shaken not stirred, etc.

    Personally if CR would have had all those things, it might be my No 1 Bond, it's really those missing things that keep it away from the top spot.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    @BondJasonBond006 - The lack of Q, Moneypenny, a traditional gunbarrel etc. was noticeable, but given how the last film was basically killing itself in its attempt to play the traditional Bond, I think the newer, grittier Bond was welcomed by everyone - certainly by me. Both the gunbarrel scene and "Bond, James Bond" do come in the movie - just later, but they're done very well.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @BondJasonBond006 - The lack of Q, Moneypenny, a traditional gunbarrel etc. was noticeable, but given how the last film was basically killing itself in its attempt to play the traditional Bond, I think the newer, grittier Bond was welcomed by everyone - certainly by me. Both the gunbarrel scene and "Bond, James Bond" do come in the movie - just later, but they're done very well.

    I may weigh those things too heavily. It's also something that keeps QOS away from a Top 10 spot, although it has gone up to No 11. I'll have to learn to get over it and enjoy the movies as they are :)

    Sometimes I wonder though if the Craig-era had not been a reboot but a continuation as it always had been before, it would even have outdone the Connery-era.
    I still feel, the reboot was a mistake.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    edited April 2016 Posts: 1,984
    It's interesting, because back then, the immediate reception for DAD was... okay. There were actually some positive reviews who praised Tamahori's film-making and considered DAD to be the best film since TSWLM.

    I think some of us - perhaps a lot of us, felt that the series had exhausted itself. It was leaning on the formula so much that it literally bent over and broke the formula by DAD. That's why it needed to go without the standard Bond formula for the next one - it just had to be a very good movie, without attachments to most of those traditional Bond motifs.

    I don't know who guessed it, but going realistic worked for Bond. In fairness, we can argue that it didn't necessarily "save" the franchise. We don't know where things would've gone if we had another DAD. DAD, after all, was a commercial success, and again, the reviews weren't so horrifying at the time.

    But I think EoN correctly predicted that if they continued down the same path, Bond would end up being consigned to history. So they needed to reinvent Bond, to make sure it survived in the new millennium. The threat of rival franchises was stronger than ever - with MI, Jason Bourne, etc. Even parodies of Bond (the Austin Powers franchise especially) were now almost as popular as Bond itself. And EoN couldn't risk any of the "pretenders" being better than the original itself. And I know we shouldn't blame Brosnan for his films, but even though they led Bond into the blockbuster world, they were very clearly decreasing in quality. Austin Powers was gaining rapidly - in 1999, Austin Powers' worldwide gross came within $50 million of Bond's. That was the greatest a parody had ever gotten, and it really felt like Bond was exhausting itself as the millennium turned (and as Bond reached its 40th anniversary), which was not a good sign.

    So they had to remake Bond, and so we got CR, and the rest of the Craig era (up to SP, at least), and I think it was ultimately the right decision. The franchise's got the greatest commercial and critical successes ever in its history, on par with the Connery years. So I think the reboot - the reinvention of Bond as a character and as a film franchise - was the right thing to do.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Best Bond period? For me it's the period from DN to TB. That is Bond at his best, unquestionably. We wouldn't be here talking about Bond 50+ yrs later if not for those 4 killer films, imho.

    Seconded.
  • Posts: 4,325
    Oh yes you are all right I had read it wrong -

    When people say period they sometimes mean '.' that is, they are trying to emphasise it. Therefore 'best bond film, period' might mean 'the definitively best bond film'.

    Yes, that's what Americans say.
  • Posts: 4,044
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Pointless gypsy fight!?!

    It is particularly pointless because it isn't resolved, we don't even find out which one wins in the end!!!

    But reflectively, many things in many Bond films are pointless, let's be honest.

    Well there clearly was a winner. "......so decide!"
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Personally I'm glad that after DAD they changed the tone. It's really the same that happened after MR, just that in Brosnan's case the actor was changed.

    Generally speaking I think EON did EVERYTHING right, always. The franchise is as strong as it never has been before with Spectre practically repeating Skyfall's success.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Oh yes you are all right I had read it wrong -

    When people say period they sometimes mean '.' that is, they are trying to emphasise it. Therefore 'best bond film, period' might mean 'the definitively best bond film'.
    Perhaps the thread should be renamed Best Bond film exclamation point.
  • Posts: 3,336
    CR,OHMSS,FRWL. Take your pick
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