What is your breaking point that would make you stop being a Bond fan.

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    If people think EON would ever do anything like that, they've lost their mind. Is it trendy to think Barbara and Michael are brain dead now?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    If only McClory were still around to take the rights off of the miserable sods. His work would restore Bond to true greatness!
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Seriously, if the McClory film rights still existed (God save his soul) I wouldn't mind a rogue Bond film every 10 years or so or earlier to mix things up. Always with the chance for greatness, and more Bond history regardless. It might even bring some folk back from their dark side.

    But I get your point, sure.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Seriously, if the McClory film rights still existed (God save his soul) I wouldn't mind a rogue Bond film every 10 years or so or earlier to mix things up. Always with the chance for greatness, and more Bond history regardless. It might even bring some folk back from their dark side.

    But I get your point, sure.

    It's just so tiring to read posts from people who think EON are a child with a fork, jamming it into the socket. As if they don't know how to do their goddamn jobs. When people actually think Bieber would do a Bond song, I am seriously motivated to start a drinking habit. They have to be drowned out somehow.

    But I forgot that Cubby never made any mistakes at all, and was always the perfect leader of Bond's cinematic legacy. Just a stand-up captain, nothing more, nothing less...
  • GumboldGumbold Atlantis
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    Honestly, if they cast another ethnicity or gender as James Bond, I would be out. I know it sound racist, but it just wouldn't be the same thing for me anymore.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Isn t Bieber already past it?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Isn t Bieber already past it?

    Bieber will never be a Bond. I don't think EON would ever decide to cast a woman in the role.
  • CatchingBulletsCatchingBullets facebook.com/catchingbullets
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    According to Craigbond himself in Skyfall, he is at least bi-curious and what makes us think it would have been his first time with Silva....

    Seriously? He was taking the piss.....classic English sarcastic humour and Bond showing he isn't phased by Silva. On the other hand I assume that Silva might actually be gay/ bi.

    Yep. Silva's gay. Very gay.
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    According to Craigbond himself in Skyfall, he is at least bi-curious and what makes us think it would have been his first time with Silva....

    Seriously? He was taking the piss.....classic English sarcastic humour and Bond showing he isn't phased by Silva. On the other hand I assume that Silva might actually be gay/ bi.

    Yep. Silva's gay. Very gay.

    Really?! And there I was thinking he was merely being playful!

    Now if you want really gay or very gay, watch Ben Whishaw and Mark Gatiss in London Spy - That is gay!

    Or better yet, watch either Starsky and Hutch or Sherlock.

    Wasn't there a gay character in Eastenders once? And a big hoo-ha about a lesbian kiss in Brookside?

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    When people actually think Bieber would do a Bond song, I am seriously motivated to start a drinking habit. They have to be drowned out somehow.
    This is the same team that gave us Madge, Alicia/Black and Smith all within the space of 13 years. Nothing so offensive had been delivered in the years prior to that, at least imho.

    I wouldn't put anything past them when it comes to the song, which is designed to sell the film first and foremost and appeal to the broadest elements of the mass public (yes, including snotty nosed kids). It is not designed to reflect the mood/style of the film character any more in my view.

    It is on the score/song front where I have been most disappointed since the classic era of 1962-1989 ended.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    bondjames wrote: »
    When people actually think Bieber would do a Bond song, I am seriously motivated to start a drinking habit. They have to be drowned out somehow.
    This is the same team that gave us Madge, Alicia/Black and Smith all within the space of 13 years. Nothing so offensive had been delivered in the years prior to that, at least imho.

    I wouldn't put anything past them when it comes to the song, which is designed to sell the film first and foremost and appeal to the broadest elements of the mass public (yes, including snotty nosed kids). It is not designed to reflect the mood/style of the film character any more in my view.

    It is on the score/song front where I have been most disappointed since the classic era of 1962-1989 ended.

    Those are all established and respected musicians who made waves either before or during their Bond appearances. Unless teenage girls take over EON during a coup and tape Dan and Barbara's mouths shut while locking them up in a cell, I don't see the Beebs getting the gig in any lifetime (or any multiverse).
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    When people actually think Bieber would do a Bond song, I am seriously motivated to start a drinking habit. They have to be drowned out somehow.
    This is the same team that gave us Madge, Alicia/Black and Smith all within the space of 13 years. Nothing so offensive had been delivered in the years prior to that, at least imho.

    I wouldn't put anything past them when it comes to the song, which is designed to sell the film first and foremost and appeal to the broadest elements of the mass public (yes, including snotty nosed kids). It is not designed to reflect the mood/style of the film character any more in my view.

    It is on the score/song front where I have been most disappointed since the classic era of 1962-1989 ended.

    Those are all established and respected musicians who made waves either before or during their Bond appearances. Unless teenage girls take over EON during a coup and tape Dan and Barbara's mouths shut while locking them up in a cell, I don't see the Beebs getting the gig in any lifetime (or any multiverse).
    Beiber has a lot of fans and is certainly 'established'. He can still mature into an artiste of sorts as others have. Madge didn't have a lot of credibility when she started out and neither have a lot of musicians from the pop genre at the start, including George Michael during his earliest Wham days.

    Regardless, I stand by my point that the songs over the past 15 years have proportionately been the worst of the lot & part of that is due to what gets radio airplay these days, which is what EON are after with the track.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    When people actually think Bieber would do a Bond song, I am seriously motivated to start a drinking habit. They have to be drowned out somehow.
    This is the same team that gave us Madge, Alicia/Black and Smith all within the space of 13 years. Nothing so offensive had been delivered in the years prior to that, at least imho.

    I wouldn't put anything past them when it comes to the song, which is designed to sell the film first and foremost and appeal to the broadest elements of the mass public (yes, including snotty nosed kids). It is not designed to reflect the mood/style of the film character any more in my view.

    It is on the score/song front where I have been most disappointed since the classic era of 1962-1989 ended.

    Those are all established and respected musicians who made waves either before or during their Bond appearances. Unless teenage girls take over EON during a coup and tape Dan and Barbara's mouths shut while locking them up in a cell, I don't see the Beebs getting the gig in any lifetime (or any multiverse).
    Beiber has a lot of fans and is certainly 'established'. He can still mature into an artiste of sorts as others have. Madge didn't have a lot of credibility when she started out and neither have a lot of musicians from the pop genre.

    Regardless, I stand by my point that the songs over the past 15 years have proportionately the worst of the lot.

    His hormonal fans do exist, right. But his overall dickish persona, his preference for bad hip-hop and electronic mash-ups and his very low respectability as a brand don't really make me have any worry he'll be selected. I feel daft having this discussion, quite honestly.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    According to Craigbond himself in Skyfall, he is at least bi-curious and what makes us think it would have been his first time with Silva....

    Seriously? He was taking the piss.....classic English sarcastic humour and Bond showing he isn't phased by Silva. On the other hand I assume that Silva might actually be gay/ bi.

    Yep. Silva's gay. Very gay.

    Really?! And there I was thinking he was merely being playful!

    Now if you want really gay or very gay, watch Ben Whishaw and Mark Gatiss in London Spy - That is gay!

    Or better yet, watch either Starsky and Hutch or Sherlock.

    Wasn't there a gay character in Eastenders once? And a big hoo-ha about a lesbian kiss in Brookside?

    Brookside? Lol when was the last time you watched TV?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    When people actually think Bieber would do a Bond song, I am seriously motivated to start a drinking habit. They have to be drowned out somehow.
    This is the same team that gave us Madge, Alicia/Black and Smith all within the space of 13 years. Nothing so offensive had been delivered in the years prior to that, at least imho.

    I wouldn't put anything past them when it comes to the song, which is designed to sell the film first and foremost and appeal to the broadest elements of the mass public (yes, including snotty nosed kids). It is not designed to reflect the mood/style of the film character any more in my view.

    It is on the score/song front where I have been most disappointed since the classic era of 1962-1989 ended.

    Those are all established and respected musicians who made waves either before or during their Bond appearances. Unless teenage girls take over EON during a coup and tape Dan and Barbara's mouths shut while locking them up in a cell, I don't see the Beebs getting the gig in any lifetime (or any multiverse).
    Beiber has a lot of fans and is certainly 'established'. He can still mature into an artiste of sorts as others have. Madge didn't have a lot of credibility when she started out and neither have a lot of musicians from the pop genre.

    Regardless, I stand by my point that the songs over the past 15 years have proportionately the worst of the lot.

    His hormonal fans do exist, right. But his overall dickish persona, his preference for bad hip-hop and electronic mash-ups and his very low respectability as a brand don't really make me have any worry he'll be selected. I feel daft having this discussion, quite honestly.
    Indeed, and Madonna put out an embarrassing sex book in 1991 and was hardly the bastion of good behaviour either. Look, we can discuss it till the cows come home, but I don't think it's appropriate to cast aspersions on those who have a different opinion. Especially given what we've had to endure of late on the song front.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    According to Craigbond himself in Skyfall, he is at least bi-curious and what makes us think it would have been his first time with Silva....

    Seriously? He was taking the piss.....classic English sarcastic humour and Bond showing he isn't phased by Silva. On the other hand I assume that Silva might actually be gay/ bi.

    Yep. Silva's gay. Very gay.

    Really?! And there I was thinking he was merely being playful!

    Now if you want really gay or very gay, watch Ben Whishaw and Mark Gatiss in London Spy - That is gay!

    Or better yet, watch either Starsky and Hutch or Sherlock.

    Wasn't there a gay character in Eastenders once? And a big hoo-ha about a lesbian kiss in Brookside?

    Brookside? Lol when was the last time you watched TV?

    Less than 24 hours ago.
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    According to Craigbond himself in Skyfall, he is at least bi-curious and what makes us think it would have been his first time with Silva....

    Seriously? He was taking the piss.....classic English sarcastic humour and Bond showing he isn't phased by Silva. On the other hand I assume that Silva might actually be gay/ bi.

    Yep. Silva's gay. Very gay.
    I remember that was such a big topic of discussion when SkyFall came out! Really it was no more different that Roger Moore winking at the guard in Moonraker. (in the ambulance with Bond, the guard and Goodhead. "Thanks but we're in great shape")

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    suavejmf wrote: »
    According to Craigbond himself in Skyfall, he is at least bi-curious and what makes us think it would have been his first time with Silva....

    Seriously? He was taking the piss.....classic English sarcastic humour and Bond showing he isn't phased by Silva. On the other hand I assume that Silva might actually be gay/ bi.

    Yep. Silva's gay. Very gay.
    I remember that was such a big topic of discussion when SkyFall came out! Really it was no more different that Roger Moore winking at the guard in Moonraker. (in the ambulance with Bond, the guard and Goodhead. "Thanks but we're in great shape")

    You haven't seen the Skyfall deleted scenes of Silva and Patrice then?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Silva was very consciously played effeminately, which seems to be cinema's way of saying, "This one's gay."
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    I haven't! Will it cause me to raise my eyebrow and say aloud, "Quite revealing"?
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    I haven't! Will it cause me to raise my eyebrow and say aloud, "Quite revealing"?

    Quite.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Moore Bond should be careful about who he winks at. I don't think he realizes the power he wields.
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    The question was what would my breaking point which is a matter of great fun to go over the top with any weird suggestions. Bieber was mine.
    I do not believe EON is that crazy, well I hope they are not that crazy.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    The question was what would my breaking point which is a matter of great fun to go over the top with any weird suggestions. Bieber was mine.
    I do not believe EON is that crazy, well I hope they are not that crazy.

    Judging from past posts, you must understand why I thought you could be serious. ;)
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
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    I'll never stop being a Bond fan - but a fan of the celluloid Bond is another story. After SP I decided I wouldn't watch any more. My reason? The direction the franchise has taken means - to me at least - that he has just become another action hero.

    Until further notice, and by that I mean those responsible can come up with a descent script, I will confine myself to the books and the 'classic' films of SC, GL, RM and TD. (I do, however, reserve the right to watch CR on occasion).
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    If some strange decisions would be made like, for example, changing 007 to Jane Bond or something like that, I would stop watching new films for sure - because I would never intend to ruin James Bond for myself. I would settle with my library of excellent Bond movies for good.

    Besides really obscure things like the one mentioned I learned from the Craig era that I should always give it a chance - it could be another Casino Royale.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    According to Craigbond himself in Skyfall, he is
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Another breaking point for me would be if James Bond has a tattoo of some sort. Connery had one and they rightfully covered it up. Not the kind of thing a gentleman would have.

    Agreed. They CGI Craig's out too! Even though he's been in the Navy/ SAS (whatever the current background is), he is an Officer and should not be like other riff raff with Tattoos. I am well aware that tattoos seem to be 'arty' and more acceptable now (my Brother in Law has plenty and they suit his alternative image).....but on Bond they make him look common/ working class/ chavvy.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    The service tattoo I think is what helps many people who serve or have served in the military to feel connected to the principles they fight/fought for, or to feel connected to their brothers and sisters in arms they can't see any longer post-service as they re-enter civilian life. In short, a mark that stays with them.

    Being "riff raff" doesn't really come into it, though I would love to see someone tell a trained military service member to their face that the tattoo makes them such a thing.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    None of the Officers I know in the Marines have tattoos. It's the Solders they boss around that have them. We usually agree on most things 0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, but on this we're never going too.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    None of the Officers I know in the Marines have tattoos. It's the Solders they boss around that have them. We usually agree on most things 0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, but on this we're never going too.

    It's not a big deal, I just don't agree with labeling people who sign up to risk their lives riff raff. I'm not a tattoo guy at all, but I see their purpose for those that have them in the military and elsewhere.
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