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Need help: need image of the "real" James Bond, Patrick Dalzel-Job, for Wiki page
Patrick Dalzel-Job (PDJ) is considered one of the inspirations/models for Flemming in creating JB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspirations_for_James_Bond#Character_inspirations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Dalzel-Job
In the TV series The Real Story, season 1, episode 3 is "James Bond", from about 15:00 min to 19:00, it deals with PDJ. It goes over the usual factors that support PDJ being, at least, the inspiration for the "action hero" side of JB. (You can watch it online on Amazon.)
But, to me, it made a glaring mistake in not mentioning how much PDJ looks like Hoagy Carmichael (HC) in the photo they show at various spots in that 4 minute discussion (seen most clearly in close up at 15:00 - 15:15). You see PDJ in his navy uniform but without a hat and, other than his flaring ears and lack of hair falling down over right eyebrow, he looks very much as Flemming described JB in Moonraker: "certainly good-looking ... Rather like Hoagy Carmichael in a way. That black hair falling down over the right eyebrow. Much the same bones. But there was something a bit cruel in the mouth, and the eyes were cold." (from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#Creation_and_inspiration).
PDJ looks quite similar to a young HC in this photo, but only with a more "don't f--k with me" look. IOW, just as Flemming described him in the quote above.
Here is when HC is older:
(The version of this episode of The Real Story posted on Youtube does NOT have a close up of the picture of PDJ, and it has a different narrator.)
So far, the photos of a young PDJ I've found online do not make him look at all similar to HC.
If anyone can find a copy of the photo used in The Real Story (the version on Amazon), or get PDJ's son, Iain, to post it online (or get him to let someone else post it online), it should be added to PDJ's Wiki entry (perhaps along with the HC photo for comparison). I think Iain has a Facebook page. Iain is about 70 years old, so best not to delay or that picture might never be put on the web for the world to see that his father's looks as well as his actions, might have inspired Flemming (who knew him personally). I think Iain lives in Rosyth, Scotland:
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/entertainment/my-father-was-inspiration-for-james-bond-1-1261197
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspirations_for_James_Bond#Character_inspirations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Dalzel-Job
In the TV series The Real Story, season 1, episode 3 is "James Bond", from about 15:00 min to 19:00, it deals with PDJ. It goes over the usual factors that support PDJ being, at least, the inspiration for the "action hero" side of JB. (You can watch it online on Amazon.)
But, to me, it made a glaring mistake in not mentioning how much PDJ looks like Hoagy Carmichael (HC) in the photo they show at various spots in that 4 minute discussion (seen most clearly in close up at 15:00 - 15:15). You see PDJ in his navy uniform but without a hat and, other than his flaring ears and lack of hair falling down over right eyebrow, he looks very much as Flemming described JB in Moonraker: "certainly good-looking ... Rather like Hoagy Carmichael in a way. That black hair falling down over the right eyebrow. Much the same bones. But there was something a bit cruel in the mouth, and the eyes were cold." (from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#Creation_and_inspiration).
PDJ looks quite similar to a young HC in this photo, but only with a more "don't f--k with me" look. IOW, just as Flemming described him in the quote above.
Here is when HC is older:
(The version of this episode of The Real Story posted on Youtube does NOT have a close up of the picture of PDJ, and it has a different narrator.)
So far, the photos of a young PDJ I've found online do not make him look at all similar to HC.
If anyone can find a copy of the photo used in The Real Story (the version on Amazon), or get PDJ's son, Iain, to post it online (or get him to let someone else post it online), it should be added to PDJ's Wiki entry (perhaps along with the HC photo for comparison). I think Iain has a Facebook page. Iain is about 70 years old, so best not to delay or that picture might never be put on the web for the world to see that his father's looks as well as his actions, might have inspired Flemming (who knew him personally). I think Iain lives in Rosyth, Scotland:
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/entertainment/my-father-was-inspiration-for-james-bond-1-1261197
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