Metal Gear Solid (1987 - present)

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  • WillardWhyteWillardWhyte Midnight Society #ProjectMoon
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    wow just got the MGS2 trophy for completing all VR missions. Boy was that a pain in the butt, especially the MGS1 Snake variety level 3 mission.....so glad that's over. Now I gotta focus on getting all dog tags. :O
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    wow just got the MGS2 trophy for completing all VR missions. Boy was that a pain in the butt, especially the MGS1 Snake variety level 3 mission.....so glad that's over. Now I gotta focus on getting all dog tags. :O

    Good work. You've done something I've purposefully chosen not to do, because I know that I can't. I'm complete sh*t on MGS1 Snake's levels. The only VR mission Trophy I cared about was the one for beating a VR or Alternative mission.

    Some day, I have to actually buy the HD Collection. I just want it to lower its g*ddamn price below $20 one of these days!
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    Just get it- totally worth it!! I still play it; with all the Phantom Pain talk recently I just had to play some Peace Walker

    Speaking of-- now that the dust has settled and we've had some time to reflect on all the news of Phantom Pain, does anyone agree that David Hayter is totally in the game (at the very least in a Solid Snake cameo)? Remember how Kojima loves to tease us and trick us
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Have any of you beat MGS4 in that insanely short span of time you need to for one of the game's achievements? I heard it is near impossible.
  • WillardWhyteWillardWhyte Midnight Society #ProjectMoon
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    I think Hayter will be in the game for sure.


    I have not beat MGS4 in the time frame Brady, that achievement is very tough. I have never even tried......
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    Yeah-- too damn frustrating for the likes of me. It was all I could do to just get the damn bandana and stealth (on two separate playthroughs BTW)
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    I wonder who will piss in their pants in this game? They can't break the tradition now. :)
    MGS1-Otacon
    MGS2-Emma
    MGS3-Sokolov & Big Boss
    MPO-Big Boss
    MGS4-...no one
    MPW-...no one
    MGSG0-???
    Didn't Akiba also wet himself in MGS4? I remember him doing more than just messing in his pants...
    He might have, but I don't remember it, if he did. I just remember him using his pants as a john.
    I thought the whole freaking army did at the end of level one, in MGS4
    I wouldn't be surprised.
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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Lets talk metal gear music! Particularly, the intruder and encounter music. I want ground zeroes to really bring back that intense music atmosphere grim mgs1 and the tanker level of mgs2 for when you mess up.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Well, I was checking out this video that was posted to Gametrailers and YouTube,



    which is totally f*cked up and doesn't really tell you jack sh*t, but still... A YouTuber called YongYea (or something along those lines, he's seems to believe that "Every gamer needs an Asian") dissected this trailer. Back before we knew Phantom Pain was MGSV, we were always trying to find connecting tissue, and this has some.

    1) It mentions a "Project Omega", involving test subjects, and the Ground Zeroes trailer had "Camp Omega" and, by all rights, Chico looked like a damn test subject sitting in that cage waiting for his Walkman.
    2) It was actually live action footage that anybody can find on the internet, commissioned by the government (something about being inside a reactor, I think), but Metal Gear games haven't been shy about using live action footage for sequences in the game (or for trailers, ala Rising).
    3) There's some weird music playing throughout the whole thing that, while played backwards, is strikingly similar to Psycho Mantis' hymn from MGS1.

    Now, of course, all of this would have been nice to know before the reveal, but I didn't know about it before then.
    Just get it- totally worth it!! I still play it; with all the Phantom Pain talk recently I just had to play some Peace Walker

    I would, if I had the money, but I just recently spent it on the Zone of the Enders HD Collection (purely to stroke my ego, because other than that, I had every other ZOE game and anime), and now I've got to wait until after I get Resident Evil Revelations when its console release comes out. Ah... not having a job... it's sad... so sad... a host of sorrows...
    It was all I could do to just get the damn bandana and stealth (on two separate playthroughs BTW)

    I had no problem with the bandana, it was the stealth that pissed me off something crazy. I was in this area on Act 1, between when the rebel tank is introduced and before it's destroyed by the DeadFOXCobraHOUNDCell Unit (otherwise known as the Beauty and the Beast Unit). I had made friends with the rebels, they weren't a problem, and I'd found a hiding place that I was sufficiently sure no one would find me. I slowly took down the enemies, one by one, then, from literally out of nowhere, an enemy shows up on top of a building and spots me, forcing me to do the whole damned area over again!

    After that, everything else was easy. Act 2 had plenty of places to hide, and great camo options. Act 3 is always easy to sneak around in (on Liquid Easy). Act 4 is a damn breeze once you have the bandana (infinite Chaff Grenades!!!). And Act 5 just requires you to hide under the deck for a little bit, then climb up above the deck for a while, find a way to destroy or confuse a Gekko without raising an alarm, and then you open a door and the sneaking part's over.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Thanks to all this MGSV stuff, I decided to hop back in the cardboard box and play MGS3 again, playing my PS2 Subsistence copy, and you know what I found?

    Operation Snake Eater Completed 2/28/12

    I swore to God I played it more recently than that!!!

    But, no, apparently the last time I played MGS3 was over a year ago. This tells me that, aside from a couple of trophies on the HD Collection when I was borrowing it from my friend, I haven't played the series in quite some time. And now, April 30th is coming up - I need to play MGS2 again soon! How the hell did all of this sneak up on me?!
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I decided to put this in a separate post because it has nothing to do with my last one:

    http://www.ps3trophies.org/news/news-9653-Metal-Gear-Solid--The-Legacy-Collection-Rated-for-PlayStation-3.html

    Speculation?
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    Damnit, if they have revamped graphics on all the games AND the first MGS this time, I'm going to throw my HD collection out the window....

    Twin Snakes was pretty awesome though. I sold my Game Cube years ago but I still hung onto that game! Why can't GoldenEye get a HD release like that???
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    SOLD!
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    Wow look what I just found on TheChive:

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    I'm in love with this woman :x


    *What's really funny is that if a girl dressed like Raiden she'd look accurate as hell! :D
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited April 2013 Posts: 11,139
    Judge Dred's sidekick in the movie that came out last year was pretty much Raiden.

    That chick above looks like the actual love child of Big Boss and Eva.
  • WillardWhyteWillardWhyte Midnight Society #ProjectMoon
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    I hated Twin Snakes because they added stupid moves/cutscenes, but I absolutely hope Kojima is redoing MGS1 graphically. Please keep the original cutscenes and voices please!!!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I liked Twin Snakes because to me it flowed better control wise. MGS1's controls were kinda stiff and the lack of 1st person aiming mode threw me off. There both great but I prefer the remake. Much like I prefer the Resident Evil gamecube remake of the original.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Murdock wrote:
    I liked Twin Snakes because to me it flowed better control wise. MGS1's controls were kinda stiff and the lack of 1st person aiming mode threw me off. There both great but I prefer the remake. Much like I prefer the Resident Evil gamecube remake of the original.

    The difference between Twin Snakes and Resident Evil is that Resident Evil was a true improvement. It added new weapons, new storyline sections, a far better script, and just plain more of what made the original 1996 classic work (and improved the voice acting).

    Twin Snakes simply took MGS1 and gave it MGS2's gameplay. The guard routes were the same (though a couple of guards were added), the bosses were defeated in exactly the same way (though the Ninja and Liquid boss fights were shortened), and first-person view just destroyed it by making everything too easy. The voice acting suffered (everybody sounds bored in Twin Snakes, with the exception of Mei Ling). And don't even get me started on all the g*ddamn bullet time... As far as I'm concerned, the only canon part of Twin Snakes is the Ninja slaughtering all the guards outside Otacon's lab, that's it, and that's only because its counterpart in the original was Snake walking into the hallway saying "It looks like they were cut by some type of blade".
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    *currently cosplaying as a guard who's found a magazine on the floor*
    I hated Twin Snakes because they added stupid moves/cutscenes, but I absolutely hope Kojima is redoing MGS1 graphically. Please keep the original cutscenes and voices please!!!

    Something tells me that, whatever this "Legacy Collection" is, it'll simply be a rerelease of the HD Collection, MGS4, and a download voucher for MGS1 on the PSN. Maybe they'll throw in Portable Ops for good measure, but that's doubtful.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I believe Kojima said he's considering remaking MGS1 again with the MGS4 engine and using those mechanics but I'm not sure as it was long ago when I read that.
  • WillardWhyteWillardWhyte Midnight Society #ProjectMoon
    edited April 2013 Posts: 784
    After a solid week of replaying MGS2 on very easy, easy, hard, and extreme I was able to get all dog tags to unlock stealth, and the 3 wigs. After that I just had to complete the game with no alerts... I finally got the platinum trophy!!! Now I have platinum for MGS3, Peace Walker, and MGS2!. B-)



    I also heard about the new MGS collection coming out. It will include MGS1, MGS2, MGS3, and MGS4. I am glad this is coming out so it will give people an opportunity to play these games in there entirety. Too bad it won't include Peace Walker. Not available on Xbox!!!! :)) :)) :))
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Will it be MGS1 or Twin Snakes?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    After a solid week of replaying MGS2 on very easy, easy, hard, and extreme I was able to get all dog tags to unlock stealth, and the 3 wigs. After that I just had to complete the game with no alerts... I finally got the platinum trophy!!! Now I have platinum for MGS3, Peace Walker, and MGS2!. B-)

    Good job, man! Maybe, someday when I feel my gaming skills are truly up to it, I'll go for the platinums. Maybe.
    I also heard about the new MGS collection coming out. It will include MGS1, MGS2, MGS3, and MGS4. I am glad this is coming out so it will give people an opportunity to play these games in there entirety. Too bad it won't include Peace Walker. Not available on Xbox!!!! :)) :)) :))

    If you're referring to the Legacy Collection, it's contents are as follows:

    Metal Gear Solid & Metal Gear Solid VR Missions (something tells me that Integral will finally be coming overseas)
    Metal Gear Solid 2 Sons of Liberty HD Edition
    Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater HD Edition Including Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake
    Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots Trophy Edition (in other words, the game with the Trophy patch)
    Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker HD Edition
    Metal Gear Solid Digital Graphic Novel
    Metal Gear Solid Digital Graphic Novel 2

    And, no, it's not available on the 360, thanks to MGS1 and Guns of the Patriots. This'll be the first time anywhere outside of Japan has received Digital Graphic Novel 2, so I hope it has English voice acting. If you haven't read either MGS graphic novel, go buy them or download them online, because they're decent reads with good artwork.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I don't understand why the HD collection and now legacy didn't bother to use MGS2 subsistence. It's a more complete package than MGS2: SOL and its another opportunity to play as snake during the big shell incident. If they used MGS3 subsistence it's not a stretch to imagine why the hell they omitted substance.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    doubleoego wrote:
    I don't understand why the HD collection and now legacy didn't bother to use MGS2 subsistence.

    They did. Sons of Liberty HD contains all 350 VR Missions, all 150 Alternative Missions, all 5 Snake Tales, Casting Theater, Boss Survival, 2001 and 2002 Dog Tag sets. They simply call it Sons of Liberty HD Edition because the core game is called Sons of Liberty. Same for why they called MGS3 the Snake Eater HD Edition, even though it contains the majority of the things from Subsistence (it does, however, omit Snake Vs. Monkey, the Secret Theater, Duel Mode and the already dead Metal Gear Online).
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I have the HD collection....for a while now actually and have never seen the mgs2 extras. Are you sure?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Absolutely positive. Why else would there be Trophies for VR/Alternative Missions, the Snake Tales or Boss Survival?

    Piece of Cake
    Complete a VR or Alternative mission
    No Boss of Mine
    Complete Boss Survival
    In It to Win It
    Place first in 50 different VR/Alternative missions
    Virtually Impossible
    Complete all VR and Alternative missions
    Tell Me a Tale
    Complete all Snake Tales

    If you're playing the 360 version, all I just listed but In It to Win It are available as Achievements. HD MGS2 is Substance, they just don't call it such.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I'm such a muppet! Just seen it now. All this time...I really don't know what to say.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    No harm, no foul, neither enemy, nor friend. I'm still trying to get my older brother to realize that Emma doesn't start off near death when you start swimming through the Big Shell.
  • WillardWhyteWillardWhyte Midnight Society #ProjectMoon
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    It took me forever to do it, but I finally got all the boards for my Peace Walker (that's 400 total boards). Talk about alot of AI battles,,,wow!
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    WOW check this guy out:

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