Which actor would make a good Bond villain?

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I remember after watching The Night Manager that Hugh Laurie would have been a great villian rather than Hiddelston a potential Bond
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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  • I don't know that I've ever seen Oscar Isaac play an outright villain beyond characters with shades of gray, but I agree, I think he could make for a very cool Bond villain.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I don't know that I've ever seen Oscar Isaac play an outright villain beyond characters with shades of gray, but I agree, I think he could make for a very cool Bond villain.

    He played a terrific, psychotic villain in Ex Machina.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    James Frain
    His performance in Gotham already qualifies him as a Bond Villain.

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    Stephen Merchant

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    Maybe not as the main Bond villain, but I actually think Merchant would make a good henchman. Not a physical threat to Bond but a more low key, sinister one much like Willy Krebs in the Moonraker novel or perhaps Dr. Kauffman from TND.
  • DeathToSpies84DeathToSpies84 Newton-le-Willows, England
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    MI6HQ wrote: »
    James Frain
    His performance in Gotham already qualifies him as a Bond Villain.

    Speaking of Gotham, I’d like to see Morena Baccarin as a female villain, given her current role in Endgame.
  • edited April 2022 Posts: 532
    If he wants to take a break from the Bat suit, Robert Pattinson would make a good Trevlyan style villain.
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    If he wants to take a break from the Bat suit, Robert Pattinson would make a good Trevlyan style villain.

    At the moment I find it too youthful and too, well, Batman.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    Cate Blanchett
    Benedict Cumberbatch
    Viggo Mortensen
    Gong Yoo
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    The reason Silva, Safin and Blofeld were such dull villains is because they were under-utilised side characters. If their backstories weren’t expositioned in mere dialogue but showcased in fleshed out scenes with moral ambiguity their presence would have had more impact.

    Take Safin in NTTD for example. Imagine that rather than (or in addition to) seeing Madeleines mother be killed, we would have been shown the dinner party where Safins family was poisoned (with Blofeld/Mr White present). And that we would have gotten glimpses of his masked vendettas throughout SF and SP, NTTD (ultimately killing Blofeld). The whole overarching plot would have been tied together better, we would have sympathised with his character killing the rest of the bad guys before Bond then finally stops him from world domination.

    Imagine Silva, upon being captured was sadistically tortured by M, proving that his hatred for her was justified rather than the soapy back and forth mommy didn't love me argument between them. Bond's reluctance to trust her would extend beyond the simple plot gimmick to open the film.

    That the writers/directors missed such simple straightforward opportunities goes to show the lack of talent in today’s Hollywood and how most content is becoming more and more boring. That the industry insists we enjoy and celebrate the lack of achievement and ability of these privileged, unintelligent hacks is farcical. Why not improve upon the products instead of calculating how to scrape together viewership from proven mediocrity. Word of mouth was always the best and most effective marketing method for films and series. Netflix is dying because of unbelievably dull content, not able competition or lack of marketing budgets.

    If you forego protagonising the villain, you need to up the creepy level thousandfolds. Think Willem Dafoe, Fiennes' Voldemort, The redneck fingering scene in True Detective, Leo and Jackson in Django etc.

    They didn't even shave Christoph Waltz's head for Blofeld and in his case they should’ve sacked the backstory. Bond’s stepbrother? What a clunky way to make the whole universe revolve around the protagonist.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    I may be overstating this, but have there ever been background/flashback scenes showing the origin of the villains in any Bond film? We don't need to hang onto tropes if they are bad filmmaking, but the classic way is the villain's monologue in which he explains his background and reasoning and Bond realizes they're mad and he should kill them.

    As for actors:
    Jonathan Bailey may not be completely right for Bond, but he could certainly do a job as someone similar to Trevelyan or a tech billionaire gone mad.
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    I've said before that to really stand out from the Craig era, I'd like them to do something different with the villains. Instead of a scarred nemesis with a somewhat sympathetic backstory, I'd like to see a Bond villain who is instead good looking and relishes their sadism. I recommended Louis Garrel in the past, but I feel someone like Sean Teale could also do a good job.

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    Reminds me a bit of Oscar Issac having seen him in stuff. Would be a rather young villain too (he's 29 now) but this again would be an interesting direction to go.
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    I may be overstating this, but have there ever been background/flashback scenes showing the origin of the villains in any Bond film? We don't need to hang onto tropes if they are bad filmmaking, but the classic way is the villain's monologue in which he explains his background and reasoning and Bond realizes they're mad and he should kill them.

    As for actors:
    Jonathan Bailey may not be completely right for Bond, but he could certainly do a job as someone similar to Trevelyan or a tech billionaire gone mad.
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    Too young, too youthful and well, too Bond (which is not a bad thing, if they can start auditioning).
    I've seen Munich The Edge of War this weekend and Ulrich Matthes did a great job playing Hitler. It's not an easy role and you can quickly fall into a caricature. He was perfectly chilling. I know he was considered for Le Chiffre, so why not cast him as a Bond villain?
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    Could def see Jonathan Bailey as a French psycho celebrity entrepreneur with a mature wife like Macron, although he indeed does looks very bondian in that picture.

    Dragomir Mrsic could also make for a realistic henchman, or independent low level crook, or a random gambler who gives wrong directions to the bad guys.
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    I'm watching Blue Thunder and Malcolm McDowell would have made for a great villain during the Dalton or the Brosnan era. He's a bit too old now, but back then... oh that would have been sweet.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm watching Blue Thunder and Malcolm McDowell would have made for a great villain during the Dalton or the Brosnan era. He's a bit too old now, but back then... oh that would have been sweet.

    +1, particularly Elliot Carver.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Claybourne Elder, I can see him as Largo or Gustav Graves 2.0 or even Alec Trevelyan or even Hugo Drax.
    He would make a charismatic villain.

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    I can see him as Fleming/novel Hugo Drax.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm watching Blue Thunder and Malcolm McDowell would have made for a great villain during the Dalton or the Brosnan era. He's a bit too old now, but back then... oh that would have been sweet.

    +1, particularly Elliot Carver.

    He'd have made a great Trevelyan as he eas originally written: a mentor figure. Heck even Renard: I could picture him, in spite of his age, beating up Brosnan Bond. I never quite bought into Robert Carlyle doing that. Or better still: Malcolm McDowell as a recurring villain for GE and TWINE, maybe even for a dramatically rewritten DAD for a final showdown.

    Okay, okay, I'm fanficking now. And I'd like more actors that are neither British nor American as Bond villains.
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    I'd agree, assuming his henchmen looked like Droods. Bowler hats, noses, the whole bit.
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    Since62 wrote: »
    I'd agree, assuming his henchmen looked like Droods. Bowler hats, noses, the whole bit.

    Would be an interesting nod, but the word is "droog".
  • I'd like to see more henchmen with noses in general. I hope we never get a henchman without a nose.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm watching Blue Thunder and Malcolm McDowell would have made for a great villain during the Dalton or the Brosnan era. He's a bit too old now, but back then... oh that would have been sweet.

    He was well cast as the villain in Star Trek IMHO
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Chiwetel Ejiofor would make a brilliant villain I think. He has the intensity, the voice and he's extremely charismatic

    He would have made a great villain for Daniel's Bond to go up against
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Chiwetel Ejiofor would make a brilliant villain I think. He has the intensity, the voice and he's extremely charismatic

    He would have made a great villain for Daniel's Bond to go up against

    Agree, also reminds me of the guy in LALD.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Chiwetel Ejiofor would make a brilliant villain I think. He has the intensity, the voice and he's extremely charismatic

    He would have made a great villain for Daniel's Bond to go up against

    Agree, also reminds me of the guy in LALD.

    Ironically, he was the original choice to play C. Plus MGM’s money problems got in the way.
  • MaxCasino wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Chiwetel Ejiofor would make a brilliant villain I think. He has the intensity, the voice and he's extremely charismatic

    He would have made a great villain for Daniel's Bond to go up against

    Agree, also reminds me of the guy in LALD.

    Ironically, he was the original choice to play C. Plus MGM’s money problems got in the way.

    If I'm not mistaken, he was also considered for the part of Blofeld, when he was written as an African warlord.
  • I always enjoy Chiwetel Ejiofor in whatever he's in. I was excited about his involvement in Spectre before things took a different direction. He'd be great in some future Bond film.
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    patb wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm watching Blue Thunder and Malcolm McDowell would have made for a great villain during the Dalton or the Brosnan era. He's a bit too old now, but back then... oh that would have been sweet.

    He was well cast as the villain in Star Trek IMHO

    The only good thing about that train wreck of a movie.
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