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BOND POLLS 2016: The Top 10 JAMES BOND-007 Film Ranking Contest (Results: winner!, on page 60)

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Thanks for your perspective on this, @haserot. Like @Gustav_Graves you're a respected member who is valued by us all, and it's always nice to see you about on the forum when you're not on hiatus.

    That all being said, never leave us again. ;)
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited September 2016 Posts: 4,589
    I actually do have DAF in my Top 10. And I will NOT apologize for it! LOL
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Despite its flaws, DAF is very entertaining
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    I have to admit I was speechless when my friend Tomi gave me that Top 10.

    1. DAD
    2. TLD
    3. GE
    4. DAF
    5. OP
    6. MR
    7. TMWTGG
    8. LALD
    9. AVTAK
    10. TSWLM

    My brothers-in-arms and I are of the Brosnan generation that much is certain. We all were between 19 and 21 when GE hit the theaters.
    DAD was highly popular in Switzerland in 2002, so I guess it's not even that surprising it's in my friend's Top 10.
    Tomi really prefers the more comedic Bond movies. I know he loves Sheriff Pepper as much as I do, he loves NickNack and Goodnight.
    And movies like DAF, OP, MR, AVTAK and DAD are very comedic in my opinion.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I'd say AVTAK is a mixed bag in that sense.

    On one hand you've got the fire truck chase which is as silly as anything else since the moon buggy chase, but on the other hand you've got Chris Walken and Pat Bauchau gunning down their own damn crew while laughingh at it.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    The firetruck chase is like something out of a Marx Brothers movie.
  • GBFGBF
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    The firetruck chase is like something out of a Marx Brothers movie.

    I am also not a big fan of the firetruck chase but I don't think that its comedic tone goes too far, especially when compared to other Roger Moore films. Yes it is silly but compare that to all the action scenes in Octopussy (tuctuc chase, jungle chase as well as the final climax in the Monsoon Palace (Bond and Q in the hot air balloon)). In the Roger era the action scenes very often had these silly elements. I actually even think that the firetruck chase had a great score and some good stunt work. There was also still at least some tension in it since the danger is felt with all the other cars and cable cars.

  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    The firetruck chase was meant to be the action highlight, but it was played too lightly. Kicking the cowboy hats off, exposing the sleeping couple, the buffonish cop, the two cop cars getting stuck, and when the fire engine does the jump across the bridge, we then had to see the antics of the cop cars afterwards! It would have been far better to play it straight! As it is, it comes across as too keystone cops, thus diluting any thrills!
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I love DAF, except for the moon buggy chase and, worse, the battle on the oil platform (dull). Still only at 15 or 16 in my rankings.

    DAF is usually my go to Bond movie if I am just looking to sit back and have a laugh and enjoy myself... Despite it's many flaws, a "i couldn't care less" performance from Sean, and just overall silliness, i have a good time watching it... it's just a carefree romp, that doesn't try to take itself seriously... despite what the film should've been following OHMSS - what we got, while nothing special, is still an entertaining watch... it embraces the camp..
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    The firetruck chase is like something out of a Marx Brothers movie.
    There is actually an Abbott & Costello film where Abbott is driving a fire truck and Costello is hanging from a loose ladder.
    Seriously, almost identical to AVTAK scene

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    But no doubt much funnier?
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited September 2016 Posts: 11,119
    What I like about DAF is basically the look and feel of the film. It's so wonderfully brassy American. As if you're constantly in a big band concert where Frank Sinatra is holding a marathon concert.

    The colorful cinematograpy, enhanced by the big colors of Las Vegas, the fashion of the late 60-ies, early 70-ies (Just watch the scene where Bond lands on LA-X Airport), the truly marvellous score by John Barry which evokes a lot of 'Americanism', the 'bizarre' inuendo by director Guy Hamilton (as a kid I was scared of the coffin scene in the crematorium, or what about Blofeld going drag), a Dolly Parton-esque screamer of a Bond-girl ("And what the hell is my whig doing in the pool!!"), Ken Adam's set designs, this time much more 'folksy' casino scenes.....the list is endless.

    So that superficial quality of the film I admire. And having said all this, I do think it's time that Bon #25 will be predominantly set in the USA. Let's say Texas.

    PS: Keep voting guys and gals. Time for another TOP 10 again. We still have 81 voters.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited September 2016 Posts: 9,117
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    What I like about DAF is basically the look and feel of the film. It's so wonderfully brassy American. As if you're constantly in a big band concert where Frank Sinatra is holding a marathon concert.

    You're counting this as a plus?
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    So that superficial quality of the film I admire. And having said all this, I do think it's time that Bon #25 will be predominantly set in the USA. Let's say Texas.

    Please God no. Bond is always better set in Europe. There's plenty of places Bond has never been before we need to have a set piece at a rodeo. Scandinavia, Hungary, the Baltic countries, Moscow, Romania, Berlin, Croatia, Barcelona and Amsterdam probably due another crack by now.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    So that superficial quality of the film I admire. And having said all this, I do think it's time that Bon #25 will be predominantly set in the USA. Let's say Texas.

    Please God no. Bond is always better set in Europe. There's plenty of places Bond has never been before we need to have a set piece at a rodeo. Scandinavia, Hungary, the Baltic countries, Moscow, Romania, Berlin, Croatia, Barcelona and Amsterdam probably due another crack by now.

    even as an American, I don't want Bond in the USA a lot... the only exceptions would be in places he hasn't yet been too... places with character

    Texas? - there isn't a lot in Texas that would appeal to a Bond movie - unless it was something around the border between the US and Mexico, say around El Paso, where on the American side- everything is nice and clean - the Mexico side is literally a shanty town - almost like the flavellas in Rio... it's an interesting dynamic of a location that i think would lend itself to an action moment..

    Niagara Falls - one of the many places I have wanted as a backdrop in a Bond movie for years..

    Beyond that, there isn't much - unless they used a location as a double for another... there are some beautiful locations up in Canada though that would be awesome for a Bond movie.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    HASEROT wrote: »

    Texas? - there isn't a lot in Texas that would appeal to a Bond movie - unless it was something around the border between the US and Mexico, say around El Paso, where on the American side- everything is nice and clean - the Mexico side is literally a shanty town - almost like the flavellas in Rio... it's an interesting dynamic of a location that i think would lend itself to an action moment..

    Maybe Bond has to protect a Mexican agent from a sniper as he climbs over Trump's Mexico wall?
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    Locations should foremost be a result of how the story is written. The USA has lots of places with character. Las Vegas showed that in DAF. The Kentucky horse shows in GF. Or the climax on the Golden Gate Bridge in AVTAK. But what about the pretty non-existent role of New York City in Bond films? Or Washington DC? Pretty often mentioned by Bond films, but never was a story set there. Mexican border is indeed an idea. Or what about a ski chase in Aspen, Colorado?

    Anyway, although the economic power of the USA is declining, it still is an economic powerhouse. And a lot of geopolitical, financial, sports, and entertainment affairs are happening there. Seeing Felix Leiter at work in Langley. Elon Musk's enterprises in the USA could be a great inspiration for a Bond villain. Ian Fleming loved the Kennedy's. Let's bring in a US senator who's a member of SPECTRE.

    Anyway, the list is endless. And the USA should deserve a bit more credit in a Bond film. If the story is good of course.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Let's bring in a US senator who's a member of SPECTRE.

    Nah. Too realistic for a Bond film.

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    So will there be any new Top 10's?

    Keep voting.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2016 Posts: 23,883
    There's nothing wrong with US locations per se, although they are not my preference just due to familiarity and overuse in other films.

    Washington D.C. could be a very interesting location, as the city has excellent architecture, is obviously a centre of world power, and is very scenic. National Treasure shows how some of the landmarks can be used to good effect.

    The issue with Bond films in the US is that they tend to look a little cheap normally, and the directors don't use the locations all that well imho. I know some sing the praises of AVTAK in San Francisco, but I disagree. Hitchcock's Vertigo is definitive in its use of the city, and even The Rock and Jade do a much better job of immersing the viewer in San Fran. North By Northwest is another example of how to do it. The United Nations building in N.Y.C., Mount Rushmore in South Dakota, and New York city in general were done justice in that film. Even the old mansion in Westbury, New York looked special.

    So if they must go to the U.S., I hope they are a bit more adventurous in the way they photograph the country.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »

    Texas? - there isn't a lot in Texas that would appeal to a Bond movie - unless it was something around the border between the US and Mexico, say around El Paso, where on the American side- everything is nice and clean - the Mexico side is literally a shanty town - almost like the flavellas in Rio... it's an interesting dynamic of a location that i think would lend itself to an action moment..

    Maybe Bond has to protect a Mexican agent from a sniper as he climbs over Trump's Mexico wall?

    it'll be too HUUUGE to climb over - so that's impossible... maybe Bond can rig up a CGI windsail and coast over it?
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    What I like about DAF is basically the look and feel of the film. It's so wonderfully brassy American. As if you're constantly in a big band concert where Frank Sinatra is holding a marathon concert.

    You're counting this as a plus?
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    So that superficial quality of the film I admire. And having said all this, I do think it's time that Bon #25 will be predominantly set in the USA. Let's say Texas.

    Please God no. Bond is always better set in Europe. There's plenty of places Bond has never been before we need to have a set piece at a rodeo. Scandinavia, Hungary, the Baltic countries, Moscow, Romania, Berlin, Croatia, Barcelona and Amsterdam probably due another crack by now.

    And Belgium of course ;)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I'd kill to see Ireland in a Bond movie, especially a Craig one.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    I think Australia is a little overdue by now?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    I'd kill to see Ireland in a Bond movie, especially a Craig one.

    Who would you kill?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    I'd kill to see Ireland in a Bond movie, especially a Craig one.

    Who would you kill?

    I've got a list, you needn't worry.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Oh, you're Santa Claus?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    More likes Claus of Death.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited September 2016 Posts: 10,592
    Ireland would be great (they briefly considered it for SP). Australia and Vancouver are also due for a Bond film.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    royale65 wrote: »
    Oh, you're Santa Claus?

    It's just a naughty list, no nice.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    I'd kill to see Ireland in a Bond movie, especially a Craig one.

    Who would you kill?

    I've got a list, you needn't worry.

    The second is...?
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