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The Award Winning : 'Bond...comments while you watch...'

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  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited July 2017 Posts: 9,509
    OK mass confusion for me: When Bond is teaching Maddy about guns, we learn she was hiding with a gun as a child-- that's how she knows how to use the weapon. She did this coz " a man came to visit her father "..,,

    Blofeld then tells her of a story when he came to visit her father...

    ... she says she doesn't remember, but...

    Were these two stories the same????

    This confusion is bad screenwriting.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Waltz is... ok as Blofeld... Maybe with bigger stakes for him, he'd be great, but...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    ohhhh boy, we're told the 00 section is dead... soo bad as a scrpt,,, DC telling Blofeld how f'd he is, is great...

    But Benbigh wanting nothing, is awful

    ... the author of all (his Pain)...

    Gents, I gotta stop here for now. I will continue tomorrow.... if this analysis is crap, and you don't want this space to b clutterrd , lemme know! However, this was an awesome exercise and, respect to all who have done it
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Keep going. Enjoying the commentary, I like more than you do, your views are recognized and understood the way you presented them.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Thank you @RichardTheBruce ! I am about to continue... and, as an asterisk, my views are just mine and would never be a commentary about others and their enjoyment of a film... It's all subjective...

    And I try and write these comments as much as stream of conscious as I can-- so some descriptives may be course or blunt.

    In the end, I'm happy you enjoyed SP-- and from this exercise, I'm understanding that I like lots about it too!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    SP CONT'D

    Bond doesn't want Maddy to see her father committing suicide-- I'm of two halves on this: One: I love that Blofeld is this sadistic.
    Two: I love DC and I HATE his SCREAM at Maddy... God, why is he screaming so much in this film?? Is it to show that he's emotionally available in these scenes?? But in his three previous films, he didn't need these theatrics. He didn't. In fact, he's a quiet Bond. The wink at Mallory in SF just before shooting the extinguisher. Yes, he grunts and growls.

    He doesn't scream... But in SP he screams how many times... ??? I love you DC, just don't scream as Bond again--- I love the growls more... much more
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    "look at me Madeliene. Look at me"-- yes, I like Bond's heroics here. He wants to save her from this pain. Now Maddy is an orphan
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Torture scene.... I can't help but think that this was designed to beat LeChiffre's torture of Bond... and it doesn't... It's not as "grounded" and real as CR....

    I love DC, I don't like his snarky "Get on with it..." it's not his Bond to say this... His bond was tougher ("everyone's going to know that you died scratching my balls")... The line in SP felt like "movie-talk"..

    Oh god, Franz is talking about his daddy... Jesus, not good, guys, not good... I see what they were going for... But it's cartoon first draft...

    Franz blames Bond for the "path" he took???

    Hello Pussy-- I do like that...

    Hate the Khan reveal...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Franz-- now Blofeld-- has made it very clear the effects of the torture... down to a "T"... We all know how that ends up... Bond will be in veggie state with no memory... IT'S CRYSTAL CLEAR... but........
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Deus Ex Machina time: the bloody watch... I thought with DC these "save-the-day" gadgets were done with-- they're stupid today since we live in a gadget world...

    I love the gadgets from the past...

    But I love FRWL even more... So with CR we didn't have the outlandish BS that saves the day, it was Bond's blood, grit, fists and gun-metal spine that saved the day (and almsot killed him; he was fallible and too impulsive... Now a watch saves him??? No tension. None... None... And that SUCKS)... Mendes and the writers brought it all back again with the stupid outlandish gadgets that save the day. I HATE IT... :(
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    How does Bond survive the torture...???? Damn it... so lazy...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    The watch EXPLODES saving 007, but...

    ... but... why the hell do the prison clamps open??? That's bullshit. The explosion has nothing to do with the chair and the prison clamps...

    (P: but we NEED Bond to get loose...!!... W: so just open the bloody clamps!... P: good idea (he types into his macbook. Hits Enter) Okay. He's free. Now what??
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    DC gets out of the chair. Runs his hand down Maddy's cheek. I get it. But I don't. Cos there's no connection/chemistry between these two!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Super-James, after a torture that was supposed to leave him vegetative, then kill him, starts kicking ass and taking names...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    However, I'm guilty: although I KNOW this escaping scene is wrong and lazy, I do love DC so much, I still enjoy him pegging off men 1000 m away, and love how he does it with conviction... It's like Mel Gibson from the LW series-- it may get more outrageous, but I just loved him doing it...

    Any other actor? not a chance!!

    Same with Dan...

    But damn, he gives Maddy the loving look again!! WHY??? Maddy is nothing more than a hot, empty vessel to park his own ship into for a night or three. That's it...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    ughhhhh "The Explosion"
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Watch the scene-- bad dubbing... bad screenwriting:

    Bond says "Let's go home"

    "The Explosion" happens (Mendes is celebrating with Champagne and hookers off camera);

    Bond turns to Maddy. His lips don't move, and a very obvious ADR dub happens-- "It's not over YET"
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Scooby Gang shows up at Hildebrand
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    M in the field... okay his past may, MAY give him a pass to be there in such a "tense" situation, considering his background... But, why his CoS? Why Q (no military-trained tech guys??? And what is Q? is he a techie? Or is he a weapon's expert to help arm her Majesty's loyal servants?? Although I like Ben, I hafta wonder--- what the helll is his position??? Other than being a hipster nerd with two cats and a fancy computer... Aaaagh--- never needed to bring Q back!!!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    The idea that SP will have control over "everything" by the stroke of midnight should be scary... Like TB scary... but it's not, coz it wasn't executed properly...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    When Maddy was leaving, I first thought-- Christ, that's a fine choice... a Gala Brand character leaving Bond... But... :(
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    yes, this is who Bond is... it is...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I do like how Bond is quiet in the car after she leaves him... a job's to be done... music ain't too bad either...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I hate "computer-scenes" especially since it feels like lazy story-telling... magic computer will, WILL, save the day...

    Bond's kidnapped...

    Scooby gang escapes... where the hell did MP come from??? Did I miss something? Why did M want to bring his secretary out into the field...???? That's flipping dangerous...

    Bond escapes kidnapping... why the hell was he blind-folded??? Honestly... I hate these scenes...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I don't like the MI6 "set"... it's cheap and cheap CGI... when those production stills start turning-- stinks of writers who ran out of ideas... But, before that happens... I gotta stomach Denbigh... this actor is so stagy... so unlikeable (and not in a good way, like Alan Rickman in DIE HARD)-- he just plain sucks....

    ..... oh this third act hurts my soul
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Denbigh has a super computer too. But it doesnt work.

    How did Q and M get into his office so fast?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    What's with Denbigh's black eyed grins??? Ugh, he's so bad; Ralph, who I love has incredibly obtuse lines "Poor taste in friends"... Why?????? Why?????
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I'm sorry, having DC wander around this building/set = boring...

    Shit back to Denny... I don't care what he's saying in well-defined elocution... And how dare they steal the "I know where you keep you gun"-- fuck, in CR that's classic... This is just a criminal theft of one's own property!!

    And the C line... that could have been good... alas...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    publicity stills haunt Bond... How. Cheap.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    the publicity stills hung up... so, so bad, words will never be able to describe how cheap and stupid it all is... That could never have been a good idea???

    Oh good. brothers confronting each other... It's okay... in an on the nose-exposition-type way... Both of these great actor suck...

    Until DC growls "did you miss me"?
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