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I hate to say it, but UNCLE is a gigantic flop. Shame really.
And let's face it, "Jurassic World" scored a 71% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not far off from "U.N.C.L.E."s 68% if you ask me. BUT just because the latter is a flop, the criticism grows exponetially. It's unfair. Ooowh, and what about "Taken 3"? Critically a complete flop -9% on RT- but do we slam down that film??
I'm honest now, I think "Kingsman" and "Spy" are better than "U.N.C.L.E.". But that doesn't make "U.N.C.L.E." the worst film. We could also say something like this: 2015 has given us high quality spy films so far.
They'd rather made Non-Stop 2.
With success comes fame & glory. With failure you get scorn and derision.
UNCLE is a fine movie and is finding its fans. It's just not a big box office movie.
I hope in the end they will at least make some profit with it, I can imagine that UNCLE will be big in Blu-ray/DVD/Download sales.
ouch.... yeah, bye-bye sequel..
still not as big of a flop/bomb as Fantastic 4 - that was a tentpole franchise, and the new film was already greenlit for a sequel before this one opened.. well, they canceled that sequel off the heals of one of the most disappointing openings for a superhero movie in history.
A few weeks ago, when I posted Uncle's very poor tracking by a very reliable tracking site, I got jumped on a little bit by a few posters. That tracking source I sited has been very accurate over time and recently they were right for MI5 (unlike Variety's low tracking sited by another poster), and it was also dead right on Uncle. Uncle reportedly cost $84m, not $75m, and once promotion is added in, it likely needed to gross $250-$290m to turn a profit. As noted above, it's overseas opening was also poor. Studios are desperate for franchises so it will be interesting to see how this failure will impact Warner's play for Bond.
I've also always noticed that when studios start putting out notice that an opening film already has a sequel planned and dated, it's total promotion bs until the profits are counted. If the studio starts to get too nervous, they will even kill a film in pre-production.
what worries me with WB now, is that they are going to have a lot on their plate with not only Superman v Batman coming out - but Justice League has already been slated, as well as a couple other hero flicks coming down the pike.. will they have enough room for Bond?.... i know the deal wouldn't be for full production control, it would be for a similar deal that EON has had with Sony over the past 5 years - but would that mean that Bond's production budget might get slashed? - which isn't always a bad thing mind you, but just a thought..
talking about it's failure at the box office isn't indicative of the film itself (i havent seen it yet, and i do want to).. for whatever reason it just hasn't caught on... maybe with good word of mouth it will have a decent 2nd week and not fall off the face of the earth.. nothing spectacular (other than Sinister 2 perhaps) is opening this week, so it stands a good chance of possibly hanging in the top 3... there have been plenty of excellent films that have suffered the same fate... a poor B.O. doesn't mean the movie's reels will be thrown in the dumpster... all it means is that future installments are in jeopardy.
Yep, I wanna buy this film on speelboek :-P. Such a funny review, and they are right. We aren't used to Matt Helm, Flint and Kid Brother anymore. And that's what this film is a bit. Don't be too serious on it. But you have to watch it in cinema ;-)!
Whilst rudeness in and of itself is not against forum policy, your condescending attitude and ad hominem arguments do nothing to make you popular amongst the members of this community, the moderators, or the administration.
I'm sure you'll counter this with how you're entitled to your opinion and that you're not here to win a popularity contest, but I personally don't care. Try to be less rude.
The original 'Taken' has a 58% rating on RT, yet is now considered one of the best action films of the last decade by the general audience. If you look at France alone, where the movie premiered months before the US, it had a critics rating of 35%, but a 80% approval by the general audience.
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Not sure what the correlation is to Derek Flint, Matt Helm and KID BROTHER? I mean KB was never popular nor a franchise in the 60's.
Yeah, and when "Skyfall" and "Casino Royale" both got four big stars by the actual Roger Ebert himself, no one in here really cared about it.
It's my point really: People thrive better on negativity. Once a movie get bad reviews, suddenly people start mentioning them.
By the way, have you managed to find the answer to my ATV question, @Gustuv? I know you're a stickler for details.
PS. I didn't care about Ebert's review because I had already seen CR at the first advance screening in the world and already knew it was good.
You are right and I have already said this too.
There is a lot of potential for things going wrong or delayed if a bidding war would occur for instance. Or as you said if the parties involved will not find a quick agreement.
This could easily take a year or more until all contracts are sealed.
Furthermore if say, WB takes over, they might not want to continue with the current era at all. They might even delay Bond because their first and most important priority right now is DC Comics movies up to 2020. And there are a lot of them!
Of course maybe everything goes smoothly, they are happily ever after and have already a script, director and pre-production going for Bond 25.... :P well, one can have dreams...
By the way, the woman in that car - the review of UNCLE - she killed a spider with her hand. Ewww. :-O She should be hired as the next Bond bad girl. ;))
At this point I see only ONE ACTOR possible to play Riggs in a possible Lethal Weapon reboot/remake: TOM HARDY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_ATV
You don't realize it but you're one of the most negative guys here for everything related to Brosnan, Arnold, Moore, etc.. everything that is not "Oscar-worthy material", as if it was something factual.
You link to an excerpt from UNCLE movie score that IMO sounds like a monochord spoof of 60s music, and you write this is something Arnold would never have been able to write. You're the only here to read this as something very positive.
Stop looking at Rotten Tomatoes score, Meta I dont know what figures, IMDB stars, Twitter tracking and so on. Heck, if you look at all these figures, CR is the masterpiece of the Craig period, above SF, and yet for this particular comparison you don't care about the figures :) And now you don't care about the figures for UNCLE..
Just consider all this as opinions. Do I have the right to find that Cavill has zero charisma ? I find that even already in the trailer of UNCLE I only care a bit about Kuryakin, and Solo looks like he wouldn't be able to have a solo movie actually. I expect all the promotion around Batman vs Superman to be about Ben Affleck.
Ok i guess we got too much into the heat of this topic taking it too far, we why just don't try to forget about it. Really to get along better and i think this was just a mistep we took way too far
i think so i apologize if i made some asumtions look like facts.
Everything was going right till i started my insistence on Cavill.also i apologize if i finished with your patience.
Cavill is becoming a hot topic and i guess you are all right that there are no chances left. Now So im just gonna say that id like someone in his style for the next Bond actor.
Craig still has two more films in his contract many actors will come after that so here is still plenty of time to find someone and we will forget some of us insisted on Henry Cavill.
Ive seen many of my posts and i didn't have problems with anyone till this came up.
We started this with the left foot and i take my part of blame for it
I didn't want to be condescending or anything similar
No need to apologise, your original post is fine as it is. If some people can't take it they shouldn't even comment on it.
Double standards from GG. Never!
I don't think you're the one @Doubleonothing is aiming at here. Though some people may not like the way you promote Cavill, there's nothing wrong with that, so don't worry. @GustavGraves can be upsettingly positive, but that's also not condescending towards anyone. Just not everybody's cup of tea.