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Also just to ask, does anyone besides me think that the Electors just may be under a wee bit of pressure to NOT change their vote? ;) (Threats, intimidation, photos of dead bodies sent to them, things like that perhaps ...)
"Under Pressure" -- Queen with David Bowie. "It's the terror of knowing what this world is about. Watching some good friend screaming, 'Let Me Out!' "
Last time I checked it wasn't December 19th yet...
The prick. He's being a prematurely ejaculating adolescent here. Not to mention he has no basis for stating 2 million plus votes are from 'illegals.'
Question:
How many years will this ornament last?
Answer:
It's already showing signs of it's complete inability to understand the scope of an ornament's responsibility.
Clinton in August 1946
Bush in July 1946
Trump in June 1946
I think Mr Trump really need to ffff-ing throw away his Twitter-account. Sjee, is Putin twittering? Regardless of his Twitter-behaviour, Donald Trump shows some pretty frightening conspiracy beliefs here. Let him behave like a president-elect, not a candidate for president. The campaign is frickin' over! Leave Clinton alone.
Why were there more votes than there are voters in Wisconsin? Let's see...
http://usuncut.news/2016/11/27/more-votes-than-voters-wisconsin-counties-investigating-massive-voter-fraud-details/
"As Wisconsin prepares for an official recount, 5000 fake Trump votes have already been subtracted from Trump’s lead. Trump only won by a total of 27k votes meaning that his lead has already decreased by 18% before the recount has even begun. In addition, 4 counties in Wisconsin have just reported that their vote tallies are much higher than the total number of voters in the election. It’s starting to look like a reversal could actually be possible."
David Frum @davidfrum 5h5 hours ago
The defamation of Mitt Romney by Team Trump over past days foreshadows the defamation of any GOP legislator who shows independence in future.
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AND the Texas elector has resigned ... rather than vote for Trump. But only resigned. He had the power (which is what the Electoral College is for - to stop our country from making a bad mistake, to put it bluntly) to choose Clinton (who is far ahead in the popular vote) and by his own words he could not vote for Trump. So... is this the best we can expect? He will just be replaced (or not) with someone who will vote for Trump. Electors are under huge pressure and this one had already spoken out (so he was a target). (I cannot copy it, but if you click on this link within this is a quote from this Texas elector saying why he quit). The Electoral College not serving its purpose if it continues this way.
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And the ongoing threats happening in communities across America; this one also crediting Trump. This must be stopped. It is totally unacceptable. But true, ongoing, and forceful condemnation from Trump and his team is still very lacking.
Trump wanted the ego affirmation of being the president, without having to shoulder the actual work and burden and responsibility. Including essential security intel briefings. He does not talk to his own govt; he doesn't. Pence is taking almost daily briefings. This is ridiculous.
Look at all he has said and done, his whole life as well as the campaign, and you do not hear a man with a conscience or genuine caring for others. Just tells people simple things they want to hear, and speaks very differently in private to corporations, etc. All politicians do that to a certain extent - but not like this. This is very extreme.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-will-give-you-everything-here-are-282-of-donald-trumps-campaign-promises/2016/11/24/01160678-b0f9-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html
I disagree with this article's title. "Populist" is far too nice a word for Bannon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/27/us/politics/steve-bannon-white-house.html
In part the article has this:
More quietly, Mr. Bannon systematically courted a series of politicians, especially those who share his dark, populist worldview: at home, a corrupt ruling class preying on working Americans; globally, “the Judeo-Christian West” in a “war against Islamic fascism.” They were views that placed him closer to the European right than to the Republican mainstream.
He made flattering films about Michele Bachmann, the former congresswoman from Minnesota, and Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate; repeatedly pressed the television host Lou Dobbs to run for office; and flirted with a range of Republican presidential hopefuls, including Rick Santorum, Ben Carson and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. Finally, in Mr. Trump, Mr. Bannon found his man.
Mr. Bannon told a colleague in multiple conversations during the presidential campaign that he knew Mr. Trump was an “imperfect vessel” for the revolution he had in mind. But the upstart candidate and the media entrepreneur bonded anyway.
In August 2015, Mr. Bannon told Ms. Jones in an email that he had turned Breitbart, where employees called certain political stories “Bannon Specials,” into “Trump Central” and joked that he was the candidate’s hidden “campaign manager.” He hosted Mr. Trump for friendly radio interviews and offered tactful coaching. This August, with the Trump campaign foundering, Mr. Bannon took over as chief executive.
Like Reagan, Mr. Trump addressed the people he called “the forgotten men and women of our country” — the white working and middle class. He vowed to take on Islamic radicalism, as Reagan had faced off against communism. Echoing the sole-savior theme of “In the Face of Evil,” Mr. Trump declared of the nation’s predicament, “Only I can fix it.”
Ms. Jones, for one, had no trouble seeing the parallels. “Trump,” she said, “is Steve’s Reagan.”
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In an email to a Breitbart colleague in 2014, he dismissed Republican congressional leaders with an epithet and added, “Let the grass roots turn on the hate.”
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Ms. Jones, Mr. Bannon’s former film collaborator, who describes herself as very liberal, said, “Steve’s not a racist.”
But, she added, “he’s using the alt-right — using them for power.”
The scariest thing is........people are not willing to ask themselves the question anymore what fascism and racism actually is about. That ignorance, which is currently dominating a more historically correct comparison, scares me a bit.
If something isn't racism and/or fascism.....then when will it become racism and/or fascism? How much does it take until something really becomes racism and/or fascism? Ar aspects of racism and/or fascism not enough to start a discussion with historical comparative arguments?
Sadly...there's no room in here to answer such questions. I mean, this is what the Golden Dawn movement currently is doing on the Greek island of Chios. Burning down shelters of immigrants:
Everyone in here who says this is 'ordinary violence', need to look up his/her dictionary. Stop appeasing this stuff.
By the way, basically it is difficult to have a discussion on Trump's policies because he does not have clear, detailed policies that he has not gone back on or modified. He says different things depending on who is influencing at the moment and upon his current audience. So for the most part, people really do not know what specifics he will try to do and how.
I tried to focus on that in the other topic created by @BondJames. It's rather useless really. See it for yourself :-). There won't be a good, proper discussion about clearly defined policies.
Only good thing of it all: We still have something that's called a 4-year term. Which is more or less rock-solid. Which one can't say of countries like Russia or Turkey these days.
Meanwhile, I found this. How is this a good thing? After Nov. 8th election, Ivanka met privately with Philippines envoy. His children being so heavily involved in his administration and fully handling Trump businesses should continue to be a major concern that people should not ignore.
The 'Carl Bernstein's' and 'Bob Woodward's' are already waking up @4EverBonded. They will bring these conflicted interests into the daylight. But....the problem is......the 'Bernstein's' and 'Woodward's' of today are being threatened and bullied....especially on social media.