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That actually would be an argument against the return of Blofeld I would be sensitive to. And I would add Gruboiszaboschikov to the list of Fleming's characters that can be used.
That could work too. And General G I mentioned could be the new Blofeld as well.
Because they have already been used 6 times! SPECTRE: DN, FRWL, TB, YOLT, OHMSS and DAF. Blofeld: FRWL, TB, YOLT, OHMSS, DAF and FYEO. They have been done to death. James Bond isn't Just about SPECTRE and Blofeld. With Live and Let Die EON was finally able to do something without relying on SPECTRE. Besides Both SPECTRE and Blofeld have been parodied so much that even if they tried changing Blofeld's appearance he would still be remembered and parodied. EoN's reboot is about starting fresh, not retreading old ground. It would just be remaking an old Bond film. Some of us like to see new ideas, not old ones dug up from the grave.
Anyone who's read the novels, and I'm assuming you have, will know that the Fleming Blofeld, in his various guises, has never been properly realised on screen. Neither has the intricacy or detail of his organisation. He's not necessarily wed to a story like a Drax or Goldfinger, so I don't have a problem if they feel they'd like to reinvigorate the character in the way they did with Daniel in CR.
Question: who remembers the name Blofeld among average moviegoers?
And we covered the parody ground. The Joker has been parodied. Heck, he was a clown! And nobody here I think wants Blofeld to be used like Shredder in the TMNT cartoon. Of course we want him to be used sparingly. But a recurring, resilient adversary brings a completely different kind of menace than a one off adversary. Holmes had Moriarty, Bond had Blofeld.
Also someone please tell me what Blofeld did to make him be so iconic to be compaired with James Moriarty and The Joker? I don't remember reading anything that special about Blofeld.
Batman was played by three different actors within a period of five years and became the laughing stock of cinema. Christian Bale and Chris Nolan arrive on the scene and all is forgiven. It's amazing what an actor in the right hands can do with a role.
I'm talking about Blofeld of the novels. :p
It wasn't the actors that made the role, It was the writing and direction of the characters.
That's not my point. You can flog a character to death but it doesn't mean they can't be resurrected.
I'm not saying he can't. I'm saying he shouldn't.
I bet if it was announced you'd get a tiny pang of joy ;)
Yes, they made mistakes recasting him and became utterly inconsistent with his characterization. But that's the point I made: if they remain consistent and don't use him too much, AND use the books as inspiration, yes, Blofeld works very well. It is not incidental that Fleming made him resilient, had him kill Bond's wife and got the closest to destroy Bond. Even after Blofeld was killed, his action cost Bond his memory and nearly his life.
Moriarty is very much like Blofeld of the novels, actually: he was invent by Conan Doyle to be a worthy adversary to kill Holmes and was used only twice, or three if you count the story of Holmes' resurrection" as while death his henchmen are still active. And he was also used ad nauseam in adaptations, even though he barely appears in the original stories. And I don't remember anyone complaining about how he was portrayed by Eric Porter.
@Dragonpol has spoken!
I'd be annoyed but I'd have to accept it. Much how few were annoyed by the Gadget Laden DB5 of Skyfall.
Exactly. Blofeld was handled very badly first time around. Being recast was only one of the main problems with Blofeld - just like they kept recasting Bond's CIA ally Felix Leiter in a way, and nobody outside of world Bondom's ever heard of him either.
If Blofeld is to be reused (I'm against it personally) it should be done properly this time under a different name. No doubt John Logan is more than capable of writing a new villain to replace Blofeld - he did a good job with Raoul Silva in the recent Skyfall, so I have every confidence in him delivering in Bond 24.
I was one of those few. Although I won't go into why that was far worse than a returning Blofeld!
Well were making progress to a middle ground of sorts. :))
I didn't really see this as any big problem as such, though I suppose that it did go against the pared down back to basics feel of the latter part of the film!
Funny. That's what I thought too. I think the general public would recognise the villain name Blofeld. Now the villain name Dragonpol would of course be a different matter...
I wouldn't say that. These types of fan forums are probably an excellent way of garnering fan opinion and ideas.
Well, one thing is certain. The first draft screenplays for Bond 24 are already finished and on Michael and Barbara's desks :-).
I shall tell you this though....I'd loveeee to be part of these brainstorm sessions the actors have with the producers and scriptwriters about the screenplay :-). Because in all honesty....I think the real moviemakers, Barbara and Michael, must be 'nerds' too. I just....admire their job I guess hehe.
I'm sure we'd all like a stab at writing a James Bond film by committee. We all think we would have the best ideas.
Having seen some interviews of John Logan though, he's very fanatical, almost like a little kid :-P. Way more than the very 'neutral' Neal Purvis & Robert Wade when you see them on screen. I guess it isn't a bad thing to be a 'passionate nerdie' ;-).
It was me. I stand by what I said: I doubt they know Blofeld beyond the image that has been spoofed so often. I am not saying they won't have heard of it per se, but that the name is not very widely remembered.
If he's passionate about Bond is see that as a virtue, not a fault! It means he's one of us in a strange way and that the inmates and running the asylum...
Here's where a famous, big, Oscar-heavy actor comes into the discussion ;-). Because do you really think 'The Dark Knight' got such a huge success because of the character The Joker? Off course not. It was how he was written by Goyer & Nolan ánd how Heath Ledger portrayed him.
That should be done with Blofeld too. Preferably an actor like....Daniel Day-Lewis, Michael Shannon, Christoph Waltz or Philip Seymour-Hoffman.