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    I just saw in the Autocar & Cars Magazine of the celebrating the 100th Anniversary of Aston Martin. It all everything. Yes Including 007 cars. Only the classic DB5 & the Living Daylights V8 Vantage. Also Roger Moore The Persuaders Aston Martin DBS. Of similar to George Lazenby. I hope if they had the Book I get it. I collect Aston Martin diecast cars of all round.
  • Samuel001 wrote:
    Maybe Bond should rent and return the car for once. He did in the novels. That would make for a nice change.

    Seems to me that Bond was driving a rental car in Casino Royale. Remember after his arrival on the island. He drove a car that looked like it was a rental to the casino.
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    Bit of news on Aston: http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/business-news/revenue-tops-500-million-aston-7043623

    Is it confirmed that there'll be a proper new Aston in Bond24?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Glad to hear it.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    The only new Aston Martin model currently discussed in car magazines for 2015 is a SUV version of the Lagonda:
    <img src="http://blog.cargurus.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/aston-martin-lagonda-concept-side.jpg">; Admittedly this is a concept from 2009, so a lot might have happened in the mean time.
    Make up your own mind about it, but I do not think this will become a possibility.
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    I hope not! Uggly!
  • Getafix wrote:
    I hope not! Uggly!
    I totally agree with you!
  • edited April 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Aston Martin took out a 165 Million dollar loan to put into R&D for new models, and will be sourcing engines and possibly other parts from Mercedes-Benz. The first *new* car, apparently, will be whatever Bond has in Bond24.
  • edited April 2014 Posts: 11,425
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Aston Martin took out a 165 Million dollar loan to put into R&D for new models, and will be sourcing engines and possibly other parts from Mercedes-Benz. The first *new* car, apparently, will be whatever Bond has in Bond24.

    Isn't $165m peanuts these days? I don't see how Aston can continue to survive outside a major motor company. Might be better if Mercedes just bought them outright.
  • edited April 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Getafix wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Aston Martin took out a 165 Million dollar loan to put into R&D for new models, and will be sourcing engines and possibly other parts from Mercedes-Benz. The first *new* car, apparently, will be whatever Bond has in Bond24.

    Isn't $165m peanuts these days? I don't see how Aston can continue to survive outside a major motor company. Might be better if Mercedes just bought them outright.

    Mercedes "bought" 5% in the deal with the new engines and parts merger. Word on the car forums I follow is that they're looking into buying a bigger piece to help Aston while also further developing an AMG* sub brand through mutual research and development.

    I'd be ecstatic if they did, because only good, powerful, beautiful things can come of it.


    *AMG is currently a "Performance Division" of Mercedes, making increased-power and sportier models of current MB production cars. Rumor is Mercedes will turn them into a sub brand, starting with a replacement to the famous gull wing 'Mercedes-Benz SLS'. It will now be the 'SLS AMG GT', a rival to the likes of Porche (and now sadly won't have gull wing doors). Similar to what Dodge did with it it's SRT division, now making the Dodge Viper the SRT Viper.
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Aston Martin took out a 165 Million dollar loan to put into R&D for new models, and will be sourcing engines and possibly other parts from Mercedes-Benz. The first *new* car, apparently, will be whatever Bond has in Bond24.

    Isn't $165m peanuts these days? I don't see how Aston can continue to survive outside a major motor company. Might be better if Mercedes just bought them outright.

    Mercedes "bought" 5% in the deal with the new engines and parts merger. Word on the car forums I follow is that they're looking into buying a bigger piece to help Aston while also further developing an AMG* sub brand through mutual research and development.

    I'd be ecstatic if they did, because only good, powerful, beautiful things can come of it.


    *AMG is currently a "Performance Division" of Mercedes, making increased-power and sportier models of current MB production cars. Rumor is Mercedes will turn them into a sub brand, starting with a replacement to the famous gull wing 'Mercedes-Benz SLS'. It will now be the 'SLS AMG GT', a rival to the likes of Porche (and now sadly won't have gull wing doors). Similar to what Dodge did with it it's SRT division, now making the Dodge Viper the SRT Viper.

    If it secures a healthy future for Aston Martin, it can only be a good thing. I don't see how they can survive on their own.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited April 2014 Posts: 4,341
    A cursory glance over AM's model history reveals that, apart from a SUV, they have pretty much covered every niche they ever occupied right now:

    The Vanquish is brand new and replaced the DBS.
    The DB9 has been around since 2004, but only recently received a substantial work-over.
    The 4-door Rapide has recently been upgraded.
    The Vantage as the smallest sports car comes in all styles, V8, V8 Sports, V12 sports and the tuned and colorful N-430 versions, but basically it has been around since 2005.

    So what model is most likely to come out in 2015?
    From the history of upgrades at AM, the Vantage should be next in line. Its last major update was in 2009, and the only changes since then were the "tuned-for-more-power" S- and N-430 versions that were added in 2011 (V8) and 2013 (V12).

    With no spy-photos around yet, my bet then for Bond 24 is on a new Vantage (yay!) or a SUV (meh!).
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Aston Martin recently announced that it has been developing a new chassis/underbody and frame for it's next generation of models featuring the new Mercedes-sourced engines, starting with the 2016* replacement for the DB9.

    I think we found the car Wilson mentioned for Bond 24.

    *As far as cars go, a 2016 model year usually means the car starts sales in 2015, perfectly aligning with the release of the most expensive commercial ever next Craig film.
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    Interesting. Keep us posted.
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Getafix wrote:
    Interesting. Keep us posted.

    Will do. What I foresee happening:

    The car will likely be revealed at an international motor show in 2015. The '03-to-current DB9 was revealed at the Frankfurt Motor Show, but it's usually held in Autumn/Fall and is likely too late if it's going to be in the film. The largest European auto show is typically the Paris International Auto Show, but in 2015 it will be held in October, and the film will already be out in some/most markets.

    It will almost definitely be a European motor show, judging by previous model reveals and as I don't see fit a German-produced, British sports car being revealed in Chicago or New York. It will likely be March, in Geneva, or at a private-for-the-press event like what Aston has done recently with using their Centennial celebrations to reveal their new concepts.

    Either way, by this time next year we should have a good idea or even a leaked image, if not a reveal, of the car.

    I also suspect Bond/Craig will definitely be hyped up by Aston, and likely be involved in the marketing and revealing of the car in a large way. You don't snag Bond and keep him to the side!

    And what a surprise if the car is revealed in the trailer for the film! There would be all sorts of cross-marketing and buzz for weeks if that were the case.

    Time will tell, and I will indeed keep you posted.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Thanks for the news, @JWESTBROOK. I must admit that I was at first underwhelmed by the idea of a new Aston for Bond, but my excitement is slowly beginning to rise. I can't imagine what the new car will look like; I don't see how they could improve on the shell design of the Astons seen in DAD and CR.
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Aston Martin recently announced that it has been developing a new chassis/underbody and frame for it's next generation of models featuring the new Mercedes-sourced engines, starting with the 2016* replacement for the DB9.

    I think we found the car Wilson mentioned for Bond 24.

    *As far as cars go, a 2016 model year usually means the car starts sales in 2015, perfectly aligning with the release of the most expensive commercial ever next Craig film.

    Well I hope the front will change. Not that same front from the DB7 the last Aston Martin with v6 supercharge.@DaltonCraig007 you said in my post that Aston Martin should change the all design. I agree with you. The whole shape of the new Aston Martins future model have to change the shape.
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Update.

    Spy photos of a new Aston Martin 'Ultra-Sedan', as it's being called, were recently revealed.

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    The design is a clear departure from the brand's current lineup, obvious even through the elaborate camouflage. Whether or not it looks good (at least to a majority) won't be known until it is fully revealed, likely in a grey color, later this year or early next year.

    Initial assumptions are that this will be a 'bespoke production' a.k.a. limited run of vehicles, similar to the recent One-77 supercar. It is unclear whether this look is the future of Aston Martin, or simply a one-off design similar to the One-77 and Zagato offerings of the past.

    It does look rather similar to the Zagato concepts revealed last July for the company's Centennial celebrations:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHM7xG4R7G6t5aFrT3n0cRlnuXlVnm_m5TqsvYaTvv9Waz78ZL
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    This car will not feature a new chassis or newly sourced engine from Aston Martin's recent dealings with Mercedes-Benz.

    It's lined up to fit nicely with the production of Bond 24, but I have reservations about Bond in a four-door Aston. If they do it, I'd be pleasantly surprised. If we interpret Michael Wilson's "never before seen" Aston comment for Bond 24 as "never before seen.. anywhere", then this, or something else they've been very good at hiding, is likely your car. If you interpret it as "never before seen.. in a Bond film", then it could very well be the recent/current Aston Martin Zagato or Aston Martin Rapide S.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Very interesting news. But will this be the car Craig will be driving in Bond 24?
    I am skeptical, because looking at it from the side reveals what a monster this is. Unless
    Bond plans to chauffeur half of MI6 around in it, I rather think not.

    <img src="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/32330/images/2AstonMartinRapideSbyQ.jpg">;
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 825
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Update.

    Spy photos of a new Aston Martin 'Ultra-Sedan', as it's being called, were recently revealed.

    714065696014141736.jpg
    xyrmgxmnklxj0movg5yd.jpg

    The design is a clear departure from the brand's current lineup, obvious even through the elaborate camouflage. Whether or not it looks good (at least to a majority) won't be known until it is fully revealed, likely in a grey color, later this year or early next year.

    Initial assumptions are that this will be a 'bespoke production' a.k.a. limited run of vehicles, similar to the recent One-77 supercar. It is unclear whether this look is the future of Aston Martin, or simply a one-off design similar to the One-77 and Zagato offerings of the past.

    It does look rather similar to the Zagato concepts revealed last July for the company's Centennial celebrations:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHM7xG4R7G6t5aFrT3n0cRlnuXlVnm_m5TqsvYaTvv9Waz78ZL
    714288415783335495.jpg

    This car will not feature a new chassis or newly sourced engine from Aston Martin's recent dealings with Mercedes-Benz.

    It's lined up to fit nicely with the production of Bond 24, but I have reservations about Bond in a four-door Aston. If they do it, I'd be pleasantly surprised. If we interpret Michael Wilson's "never before seen" Aston comment for Bond 24 as "never before seen.. anywhere", then this, or something else they've been very good at hiding, is likely your car. If you interpret it as "never before seen.. in a Bond film", then it could very well be the recent/current Aston Martin Zagato or Aston Martin Rapide S.

    Well I hope this could be 007 next car in Bond 24 with Daniel Craig driving it. It very interesting to me too. I've seen this at Car Magazine Web.
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    zebrafish wrote:
    Very interesting news. But will this be the car Craig will be driving in Bond 24?
    I am skeptical, because looking at it from the side reveals what a monster this is. Unless
    Bond plans to chauffeur half of MI6 around in it, I rather think not.

    It depends on how we interpret Wilson's comment.

    This is the only brand new, never-before-seen Aston to come this year. Unless they plan on revealing something else soon, though there have been no spy shots or news about it, then it's this.

    If we interpret it to be that simply we've never seen Bond in it, it could very well be an Aston other than the DB9, but already for sale.
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Looking back through the Casino Royale 'Production Updates' on the site, the DBS was in fact revealed with the shooting of the film. It had been announced that Aston Martin had sent a few cars to the production of the film, but nobody knew which car it would be until Aston announced the DBS would be revealed in the film.

    http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_21_aston_martin_confirmed.php3?t=bond21&s=bond21

    So I do suppose that perhaps Aston may indeed have a new car in production, but will wait to unveil it at any car shows or press announcements until their involvement with Bond 24 is confirmed.

    I still don't see how it is possible for them to be in production of a new car without any test mules spotted or rumors going around, but perhaps they're just pulling it off. It could very well just be an updated DBS or Vantage, or indeed the new 'Loganda' sedan (perhaps a two door coupe version, secretly in the works?), or the newly unveiled Vantage GT, which is touted as the cheapest Aston at $99,000.
    Aston-Martin-V8-Vantage-GT-line-up.jpg
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    Such an irony that DAD saw the incl
    Agent7F wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Update.

    Spy photos of a new Aston Martin 'Ultra-Sedan', as it's being called, were recently revealed.

    714065696014141736.jpg
    xyrmgxmnklxj0movg5yd.jpg

    The design is a clear departure from the brand's current lineup, obvious even through the elaborate camouflage. Whether or not it looks good (at least to a majority) won't be known until it is fully revealed, likely in a grey color, later this year or early next year.

    Initial assumptions are that this will be a 'bespoke production' a.k.a. limited run of vehicles, similar to the recent One-77 supercar. It is unclear whether this look is the future of Aston Martin, or simply a one-off design similar to the One-77 and Zagato offerings of the past.

    It does look rather similar to the Zagato concepts revealed last July for the company's Centennial celebrations:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHM7xG4R7G6t5aFrT3n0cRlnuXlVnm_m5TqsvYaTvv9Waz78ZL
    714288415783335495.jpg

    This car will not feature a new chassis or newly sourced engine from Aston Martin's recent dealings with Mercedes-Benz.

    It's lined up to fit nicely with the production of Bond 24, but I have reservations about Bond in a four-door Aston. If they do it, I'd be pleasantly surprised. If we interpret Michael Wilson's "never before seen" Aston comment for Bond 24 as "never before seen.. anywhere", then this, or something else they've been very good at hiding, is likely your car. If you interpret it as "never before seen.. in a Bond film", then it could very well be the recent/current Aston Martin Zagato or Aston Martin Rapide S.

    Well I hope this could be 007 next car in Bond 24 with Daniel Craig driving it. It very interesting to me too. I've seen this at Car Magazine Web.

    Very interesting. I love the current line up of Astons, but the new direction looks a little beefier, more masculine. More in line with the more brutal and not so pretty 70s cars, which I think makes a nice change. And would suit Craig's Bond persona as well.
  • edited June 2014 Posts: 5,745
    A few more updates on the 'new era' of Aston Martins heading our way.

    Car&Driver is reporting that work on the DB9-replacement is well under way, and will indeed be utilizing the new engines and aluminum frame sourced from the Mercedes-Benz dealings. They still claim it is slated for a 2016/2017 sale date.

    http://blog.caranddriver.com/first-aston-martin-on-all-new-architecture-will-be-db9-replacement/

    If it is going on sale in 2017, I highly doubt it will be the car featured in Bond 24, due out next year.

    I'm beginning to think the 'never before seen' Aston Wilson mentioned simply meant that we've never seen Bond in it, and it will not be a brand new revealing of an Aston to the World (as the DBS was in Casino Royale).

    The DBS went on sale in 2007, after the release of 2006's Casino Royale. During filming, the car was in the final stages of design, and the stunt cars in the film were actually DB9's dressed as the DBS.

    In that respect, depending on how far along the DB9-replacement is as far as design goes, Aston Martin and the production team could very easily simply re-skin a DB9 or Vantage with the future design, to boost sales when the car is publicly revealed sometime in late 2016 or 2017.

    My opinion, however, is that Craig will be driving the new 'cheap' Aston, the Vantage GT. It's still $99,000 and its the newest thing Aston has to sell.

  • edited June 2014 Posts: 5,745
    (This was originally an accidental double post, sorry.)

    Info on the the Casino Royale DBS deal:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_DBS_V12
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film)#Effects

    And probably the best news from that article is that there seem to be no definitive plans for an Aston Martin SUV at the moment.
    zebrafish wrote:
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:

    My opinion, however, is that Craig will be driving the new 'cheap' Aston, the Vantage GT. It's still $99,000 and its the newest thing Aston has to sell.

    Bond in a cheap Aston? Outrage! I sincerely hope he wrecks it completely.
  • zebrafish wrote:
    The only new Aston Martin model currently discussed in car magazines for 2015 is a SUV version of the Lagonda:
    <img src="http://blog.cargurus.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/aston-martin-lagonda-concept-side.jpg">; Admittedly this is a concept from 2009, so a lot might have happened in the mean time.
    Make up your own mind about it, but I do not think this will become a possibility.

    Look´s like a car for a big family, not for a secret agent...
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