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  • vzokvzok
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    I'd probably be another, but I need to revisit the era before saying anything conclusive. It's always Moore battling Brosnan for the bottom spots for me, and because the Moore era has location shooting, Ken Adam, vintage flair and a distinct identity about them, those 7 don't fair too badly against Brosnan's 4.

    Vintage flairs?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Must be talking about Sir Rog's bell bottoms.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    that scene where he kills dent in dr no is easily one of the best in the series
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    vzok wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    I'd probably be another, but I need to revisit the era before saying anything conclusive. It's always Moore battling Brosnan for the bottom spots for me, and because the Moore era has location shooting, Ken Adam, vintage flair and a distinct identity about them, those 7 don't fair too badly against Brosnan's 4.

    Vintage flairs?

    Vintage flair. A style that is best represented by the 70s and its outlandish, crazy visual appeal. Make sense?
  • vzokvzok
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    Those suits in TMWTGG made little sense.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    vzok wrote: »
    Those suits in TMWTGG made little sense.

    A lot of them were, yes, but the Adam sets and location shooting give the films a style of their own. That can't be said for Brosnan's where there's iffy suits and rather dull sets, with fairly standard location shooting.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    At the end of the day it's going to be subjective so rather than trying to pick out an objective best and worst I'll just post my own personal list

    Licence To Kill
    The Living Daylights
    Spectre
    Goldeneye
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service

    And worst (descending order)

    For Your Eyes Only
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Moonraker
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Quantum Of Solace

    Those last two are the only two films in the series that make me genuinely angry. I can barely sit through them.
  • GBFGBF
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    1. The Living Daylights
    2. For Your Eyes Only
    3. From Russia with Love
    4. Goleneye
    5. Goldfinger

    And worst (descending order)

    20. Moonraker
    21. Tomorrow never dies
    22. Spectre
    23. Quantum of Solace
    24. Die another day
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Those suits in TMWTGG made little sense.

    A lot of them were, yes, but the Adam sets and location shooting give the films a style of their own. That can't be said for Brosnan's where there's iffy suits and rather dull sets, with fairly standard location shooting.

    I would have to disagree a little bit.

    What about the ice palace, the media center of Carver, the GoldenEye center, the park with the demolished statues, Wai Lin's lair, the satellite dish site, the various locations of Valentin in GE and TWINE, the sword fight club, Graves's plane. The list is endless really.

    I would agree though, that compared to Ken Adam they all pale in comparison.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Those suits in TMWTGG made little sense.

    A lot of them were, yes, but the Adam sets and location shooting give the films a style of their own. That can't be said for Brosnan's where there's iffy suits and rather dull sets, with fairly standard location shooting.

    I would have to disagree a little bit.

    What about the ice palace, the media center of Carver, the GoldenEye center, the park with the demolished statues, Wai Lin's lair, the satellite dish site, the various locations of Valentin in GE and TWINE, the sword fight club, Graves's plane. The list is endless really.

    I would agree though, that compared to Ken Adam they all pale in comparison.

    I also agree, there are plenty of memorable locations and sets from the Brosnan era, but compared to Ken Adams efforts on something like YOLT, or TSWLM, they do somewhat look pale. But memorable in their own right.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Those suits in TMWTGG made little sense.

    A lot of them were, yes, but the Adam sets and location shooting give the films a style of their own. That can't be said for Brosnan's where there's iffy suits and rather dull sets, with fairly standard location shooting.

    I would have to disagree a little bit.

    What about the ice palace, the media center of Carver, the GoldenEye center, the park with the demolished statues, Wai Lin's lair, the satellite dish site, the various locations of Valentin in GE and TWINE, the sword fight club, Graves's plane. The list is endless really.

    I would agree though, that compared to Ken Adam they all pale in comparison.

    The Brosnan film sets generally look like Studio sets.....that's the problem.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Those suits in TMWTGG made little sense.

    A lot of them were, yes, but the Adam sets and location shooting give the films a style of their own. That can't be said for Brosnan's where there's iffy suits and rather dull sets, with fairly standard location shooting.

    I would have to disagree a little bit.

    What about the ice palace, the media center of Carver, the GoldenEye center, the park with the demolished statues, Wai Lin's lair, the satellite dish site, the various locations of Valentin in GE and TWINE, the sword fight club, Graves's plane. The list is endless really.

    I would agree though, that compared to Ken Adam they all pale in comparison.

    The graveyard of GE was cool, but everything in that era has that fake modernity look to it flashy and empty, and lacks a true sense of eloquent style or glamour. Adam knew how to use space, geometry and scale like a magician to create mind-bending things with his team and Lamont. The Brosnan era has a small number of interesting sets and that's fine, but it also takes a good director and cinematographer to shoot those sets as magnificently as crews under Hamilton, Young and Gilbert could. If you don't have good people behind the camera, those sets become wasted, like decoration instead of truly iconic settings for the characters to face off inside.

    We'll probably never see someone like Adam again, and that's a crying shame.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Exactly. The Brosnan sets are shot in a way that make them look like sets.....e.g. Stealth ship or Graves plane.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    GE had some sequences which reminded me a little of Adam. The aforementioned graveyard, the satellite dish and even the Janus HQ (which definitely seemed more Adam'esque than what we got during the Glen era). The Ice Palace didn't cut it I'm afraid, and neither did anything else during the Brosnan era.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    edited April 2017 Posts: 6,844
    In addition to the aforementioned sets of GoldenEye, I also need to give shout-outs to the Severnaya bunker, the chemical facility, and the armored train interior. Great work all around.

    For Tomorrow Never Dies, I like the stealth boat interior as well. Carver's Saigon office is nicely designed too, and while not a built set but a found set, I do love the look of the printing press.

    The World Is Not Enough perhaps features the least impressive set work of any of Bosnan's films, but the MI6 interiors, Kazakstan bunker, caviar factory, and lopsided submarine stand out to me as impressive and inventive builds, particularly in concert with the action sequences orchestrated around them. I can't think of anything in TWINE that particularly reads "studio." Maybe Devil's Breath, but I've seen far worse interior "exterior" sets.

    Die Another Day really brought things back to Adam though with the Ice Palace and conjoined greenhouse dome. Some of the design work on the Cuban clinic, especially that hallway of mirrors, stands out as well.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Changed my mind on this.

    Best five: DN, FRWL, GF, OHMSS, QOS

    Worst five: LALD, TSWLM, TLD, GE, TWINE
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited January 2020 Posts: 16,169
    My top five are usually:

    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    3. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    4. DR. NO
    5. THUNDERBALL

    But lately it's been more like:

    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    3. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    4. DR NO
    5. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME

    DN and TB now must take turns in my top 5.

  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Changed my mind on this.

    Best five: DN, FRWL, GF, OHMSS, QOS

    Worst five: LALD, TSWLM, TLD, GE, TWINE

    An exceptional Top 5 there @Thunderfinger.
    And a brave bottom 5, by which I mean Spy.

    Best Five -

    DN, FRWL, OHMSS, TSWLM, CR

    Worst Five -

    DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, MR, DAD

    Maybe. Bondathon depending, of course.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    royale65 wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Changed my mind on this.

    Best five: DN, FRWL, GF, OHMSS, QOS

    Worst five: LALD, TSWLM, TLD, GE, TWINE

    An exceptional Top 5 there @Thunderfinger.
    And a brave bottom 5, by which I mean Spy.

    Best Five -

    DN, FRWL, OHMSS, TSWLM, CR

    Worst Five -

    DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, MR, DAD

    Maybe. Bondathon depending, of course.

    Yeah, a lot changed during my last Bondathon.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Top 5

    GE
    CR
    MR
    SF
    FRWL

    Bottom 5
    TWINE
    DAD
    AVTAK
    FYEO
    LTK
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    I just noticed I already posted on page 1 of this thread, right after I joined in February 2017. Nothing has changed for me. SP was neither good nor bad enough to replace a film in either group.
  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
    edited January 2020 Posts: 1,220
    Top 5
    Skyfall
    Casino Royale
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    The Living Daylights
    From Russia With Love

    Bottom 5
    Die Another Day
    Moonraker
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Octopussy
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    My top and bottom 5 in no particular order (With a short reason for each);

    TOP 5:
    TSWLM- First Bond I saw as a 10 year old, nostalgia, affection, comfort food disguised as a Bond film.
    GE- The Bond film we needed at the time to allow it to continue to this day.
    CR- Showed the modern audiences that Bond and Fleming was still relevant if done right.
    FRWL- Proper classic Cold War thriller, it's like a novel on the screen.
    OHMSS- The cinematography, the score and the more serious tone makes it a proper gem.

    BOTTOM 5:
    DAF- huge missed opportunity, I wish Peter Hunt had directed this as a sequel to his masterpiece.
    AVTAK-What no Bond should be, boring. Wasted potential of the villain.
    TB- It drags too much at Schrublands and under water, I don't hate it but it's not a 'go to' very often for me.
    TND- again I find it boring in too many places and Jonathan Pryce's performance WTF! The man is nominated for a best actor oscar this year for goodness sake.
    DAD- dreadful CGI that cheats the audience, a pantomime Robocop suit, Gustav grave's ludicrous sneer, Madonna's cameo as well as her dogshit song, Halle Berry, Halley Berry's lines... Good grief, I hope the follow up movie is better than this.

  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Top 5
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Dr No
    The Living Daylights
    Casino Royale

    Bottom 5
    The World Is Not Enough
    A View To A Kill
    Spectre
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Die Another Day
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
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    Top 5

    Goldfinger
    OHMSS
    Licence to Kill
    From Russia with Love
    Casino Royale

    Bottom 5
    Die Another Day (officially worst movie)
    A View to a Kill
    Octopussy
    The World is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies

  • Agent_47Agent_47 Canada
    edited January 2020 Posts: 330
    Top 5

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Thunderball
    3. Goldeneye
    4. The Living Daylights
    5. Tomorrow Never Dies

    Bottom 5

    1. Diamond's Are Forever
    2. Octopussy
    3. Moonraker
    4. Quantum Of Solace
    5. A View To A Kill
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
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    Top 5:
    1. From Russia With Love
    2. The Living Daylights
    3. GoldenEye
    4. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    5. License To Kill

    Bottom 5:
    1. Spectre
    2. Octopussy
    3. You Only Live Twice
    4. Die Another Day
    5. Diamonds Are Forever
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited January 2020 Posts: 11,425
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Evreyone give ur opinion on the definitive best 5 films in the series and worst 5

    To start it off I will say my 5 favorite
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Casinoroyale
    The Living Daylights
    Octopussy


    And 5 least favorite
    Thunderball
    Diamonds are forever
    Skyfall
    Die another day
    A View to a kill

    Amazing. I wouldn't choose exactly the same lists but mine would have been pretty damned close, particularly your top 5.

    Just to mix things up a bit:

    1. GF
    2. OHMSS
    3. TSWLM
    4. DN
    5. TLD


    Bottom 5:

    TB
    LALD
    SF
    DAD
    TWINE

    I've thrown in TB and LALD for a bit of controversy- can't let the Brosnan era take all the glory. I do find both LALD and TB pretty dull though, despite some iconic moments.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Currently I would say:

    Favourites
    - The Living Daylights
    - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    - Thunderball
    - Quantum of Solace
    - GoldenEye

    Least favourites
    - Spectre
    - Tomorrow Never Dies
    - Skyfall
    - For Your Eyes Only
    - Diamonds Are Forever
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    Top 5
    CR
    FRWL
    DN
    QOS
    TLD


    Bottom 5
    LALD
    TWINE
    DAF
    AVTAK
    DAD


    *** Was hesitant to participate in this because generally we see the sameish top 5 and the sameish bottom 5. The real magic and controversy happens in the middle 14.
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