Definitive best 5 bond films and worst5 in no particular order

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  • Top 5

    CR
    FRWL
    TB
    SF
    OHMSS

    DAD
    TND
    YOLT
    AVTAK
    Hmmm.....
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    OHMSS
    DN
    TSWLM
    OP
    TLD


    SF
    TND
    DAD
    GE
    TWINE
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
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    TOP 5
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    The Living Daylights
    License To Kill
    Quantum of Solace

    BOTTOM 5
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Octopussy
    Die Another Day
    Spectre
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    Top:
    OHMSS
    CR
    QOS
    FRWL
    GE (childhood memories swaying me)

    Bottom:
    SP
    DAD
    OP
    YOLT
    FYEO
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    TOP 5
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    The Living Daylights
    License To Kill
    Quantum of Solace

    BOTTOM 5
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Octopussy
    Die Another Day
    Spectre

    I like your top 5 but have a few issues with the bottom.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Well, as of March 2020 my Fab Five are

    (In alphabetical order)

    Goldfinger
    Octopussy
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Skyfall
    You Only Live Twice


    And my Fumbling Five are

    (In alphabetical order)

    A View To A Kill
    Die Another Day
    Licence To Kill
    Spectre
    The Man With The Golden Gun


    Even so, FRWL often breaks into the Fab Five, as does TLD. And DAF is out of the Fumbling Five simply because SP has fallen from grace in spectacular fashion.

    Now, addressing a comment about SF and Sp being cut from the same cloth I appreciate that sentiment, but in my eyes SF is pacey, exciting and creative, SP is lazy and half- hearted. Every time I watch SP it drops in my estimation, whereas SF never does.
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    My view

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Licence to kill
    3. Quantum of solace
    4. The living daylights
    5. From Russia with love


    Bottom 5

    1. Die another day
    2. Spectre
    3. Diamonds are forever
    4. A view to a kill
    5. Moonraker

    What’s interesting is Brosnan Lazenby and Moore are in my top 10 just not in my top 5 and Brosnan and Moore are in bottom 5

    Craig is in both but that is due to an unworkable script in Spectre and a director and composers whose best ideas were in the last film and even those were just ok
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Top

    OHMSS
    Casino Royale
    Dr No
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    The Living Daylights

    Bottom

    Spectre
    You Only Live Twice
    Goldfinger
    Live and Let Die
    Quantum of Solace

    These change on a weekly basis, though. And like other posters, I do quite like most of the bottom 5, just not as much as the others. Only Spectre really pisses me off.
  • Best:
    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Dr.No
    Casino Royale (2006)

    Worst
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day
    License To Kill
    Moonraker
    The World is Not Enough
  • Daniel316Daniel316 United States
    edited March 2020 Posts: 210
    Best

    1. GoldenEye (Masterpiece)

    2. Moonraker (Masterpiece)

    3. From Russia With Love (Masterpiece)

    4. Die Another Day (Extremely entertaining)

    5. The World Is Not Enough (Also highly entertaining)



    Worst

    21. You Only Live Twice (Not bad but very flawed with issues like Pacing after hour 1, and a poor Main Villain)

    22. Thunderball (also not bad but ruined by terrible pacing making it a snoozefest)

    23. Never Say Never Again (not bad either but doesn't need to exist and has issues TB didn't have)

    24. Spectre (ok first hour but completely falls off the rails with awful writing and plot twists as well as feeling lazy)

    25. Skyfall (Horrible in pretty much every regard with only the Shanghai bits, Gareth Mallory and Kincade being any resemblance of Good but even they can't save this one)
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    Best (As from 2020)
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    From Russia With Love
    Dr. No
    Goldfinger
    Casino Royale (2006)

    Worst
    Octopussy
    Moonraker
    A View To A Kill
    The World is Not Enough
    Die Another Day
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
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    Getafix wrote: »
    TOP 5
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    The Living Daylights
    License To Kill
    Quantum of Solace

    BOTTOM 5
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Octopussy
    Die Another Day
    Spectre

    I like your top 5 but have a few issues with the bottom.

    Something’s gotta give, right? Lol. Which issues do you have?
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    As at 6.30 pm on 2 March 2020, opinions will be different at other times:

    Best

    Diamonds are Forever
    Moonraker
    Quantum of Solace
    Thunderball
    OHMSS

    Worst

    A View to a Meh
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Skyfall ugh
    Licence to Kill, just unpleasant
    DAD
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    Getafix wrote: »
    TOP 5
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    The Living Daylights
    License To Kill
    Quantum of Solace

    BOTTOM 5
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Octopussy
    Die Another Day
    Spectre

    I like your top 5 but have a few issues with the bottom.

    Something’s gotta give, right? Lol. Which issues do you have?

    Well mainly OP, which I love. But also YOLT, which has so much to enjoy. And DAF, although obviously flawed is still a Connery Bond movie, so technically is just not allowed in a bottom 5 list - it's just not the done thing.

    SP is not great and I understand why it's there but it doesn't personally quite plumb the depths required to merit this ranking IMO. Lower middle table just above the drop zone for me. I personally have it just above the even more woeful SF. Having said that, I'm not going to quibble over this one.

    DAD is the only one I can wholeheartedly agree on, but DAD is almost a given in the bottom 5 these days. An easy target.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 2020 Posts: 5,970
    BEST

    Skyfall
    Casino Royale
    Thunderball
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    The Spy Who Loved Me

    WORST

    Spectre
    Quantum of Solace
    Diamonds are Forever
    A View to a Kill
    Die Another Day
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    Daniel316 wrote: »
    Best

    1. GoldenEye (Masterpiece)

    2. Moonraker (Masterpiece)

    3. From Russia With Love (Masterpiece)

    4. Die Another Day (Extremely entertaining)

    5. The World Is Not Enough (Also highly entertaining)



    Worst

    21. You Only Live Twice (Not bad but very flawed with issues like Pacing after hour 1, and a poor Main Villain)

    22. Thunderball (also not bad but ruined by terrible pacing making it a snoozefest)

    23. Never Say Never Again (not bad either but doesn't need to exist and has issues TB didn't have)

    24. Spectre (ok first hour but completely falls off the rails with awful writing and plot twists as well as feeling lazy)

    25. Skyfall (Horrible in pretty much every regard with only the Shanghai bits, Gareth Mallory and Kincade being any resemblance of Good but even they can't save this one)

    Really interesting bottom 5 there. I don't hate it but TB really is a snore fest. Simply don't understand why some people rave about it so much. Terence Young did such an amazing job with the first 2 but here just loses his way a bit. The spectacle begins to overpower and unbalance the whole thing. I actually think YOLT is the superior film between these 2 by a large margin.

    Perfectly happy to see SF and SP languishing in the bottom division as well. I think you're spot on here. A brace of overcooked turkeys. Pretty sure history will come to see these 2 as amongst the direst in the series.
  • RyanRyan Canada
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    Best:

    1. OHMSS
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. Casino Royale
    4. The Living Daylights
    5. Skyfall

    Worst:

    1. Never Say Never Again
    2. Casino Royale (1967)
    3. Casino Royale (1954)
    4. O.K Connery
    5. Die Another Day

    ;)
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited March 2020 Posts: 1,318
    Best/ favourite:

    Goldfinger
    The Living Daylights
    Casino Royale (2006)
    From Russia With Love
    Licence to Kill

    Worst/ Least favourite:

    Die Another Day
    Never Say Never Again
    Casino Royale (1967)
    Die Another Day
    Die Another Day

    :)
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    Excluding the spoof Casino Royale (1967) and the "unofficial" NSNA...

    Best
    CASINO ROYALE ('06)
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    GOLDFINGER
    SKYFALL
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS

    Worst
    THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    A VIEW TO A KILL
    OCTOPUSSY
    MOONRAKER
    DIE ANOTHER DAY
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    Die Another Day
    Never Say Never Again
    Casino Royale (1967)
    Die Another Day
    Die Another Day

    :)

    I see what you did there =D>
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    Posts: 1,318
    CraterGuns wrote: »
    Excluding the spoof Casino Royale (1967) and the "unofficial" NSNA...

    Best
    CASINO ROYALE ('06)
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    GOLDFINGER
    SKYFALL
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS

    Worst
    THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    A VIEW TO A KILL
    OCTOPUSSY
    MOONRAKER
    DIE ANOTHER DAY

    Oh my we are close in the best department. Worst is tough on the other hand, hence I chose the easy route ;)
    Die Another Day
    Never Say Never Again
    Casino Royale (1967)
    Die Another Day
    Die Another Day

    :)

    I see what you did there =D>

    A man has difficulty making choices :)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Best

    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Goldfinger
    Casino Royale
    GoldenEye

    Worst

    Spectre
    Die Another Day
    A View To A Kill
    Moonraker
    Diamonds Are Forever
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    Getafix wrote: »
    Daniel316 wrote: »
    Best

    1. GoldenEye (Masterpiece)

    2. Moonraker (Masterpiece)

    3. From Russia With Love (Masterpiece)

    4. Die Another Day (Extremely entertaining)

    5. The World Is Not Enough (Also highly entertaining)



    Worst

    21. You Only Live Twice (Not bad but very flawed with issues like Pacing after hour 1, and a poor Main Villain)

    22. Thunderball (also not bad but ruined by terrible pacing making it a snoozefest)

    23. Never Say Never Again (not bad either but doesn't need to exist and has issues TB didn't have)

    24. Spectre (ok first hour but completely falls off the rails with awful writing and plot twists as well as feeling lazy)

    25. Skyfall (Horrible in pretty much every regard with only the Shanghai bits, Gareth Mallory and Kincade being any resemblance of Good but even they can't save this one)

    Really interesting bottom 5 there. I don't hate it but TB really is a snore fest. Simply don't understand why some people rave about it so much. Terence Young did such an amazing job with the first 2 but here just loses his way a bit. The spectacle begins to overpower and unbalance the whole thing. I actually think YOLT is the superior film between these 2 by a large margin.

    Perfectly happy to see SF and SP languishing in the bottom division as well. I think you're spot on here. A brace of overcooked turkeys. Pretty sure history will come to see these 2 as amongst the direst in the series.

    SF won't, I guarantee it. You've been trying to convince everyone for 8 years to think like you do ;). The truth is SF is now deeply entrenched in the British psyche (like GF). It's classic status is ensured.
    When 1917 was advertised, it wasn't done so as being by the director of American Beauty or Road To Perdition, and certainly not Spectre. It was advertised as being by the director of Skyfall. That would not be the case if it didn't hold a place amongst the classics of 21st century cinema.

    Sorry, pick it apart all you like, but people really did love the film when it came out and not just because it was the London Olympics or the Queen's Jubilee (yawn). It's status is secure.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited March 2020 Posts: 814
    😁👍
    Casino Royale
    Thunderball
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Dr. No

    😡👎
    Die Another Day
    A View To A Kill
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Moonraker
    Octopussy


    *Edited to replace GF with DN
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
    Posts: 265
    Getafix wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    TOP 5
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    The Living Daylights
    License To Kill
    Quantum of Solace

    BOTTOM 5
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds Are Forever
    Octopussy
    Die Another Day
    Spectre

    I like your top 5 but have a few issues with the bottom.

    Something’s gotta give, right? Lol. Which issues do you have?

    Well mainly OP, which I love. But also YOLT, which has so much to enjoy. And DAF, although obviously flawed is still a Connery Bond movie, so technically is just not allowed in a bottom 5 list - it's just not the done thing.

    SP is not great and I understand why it's there but it doesn't personally quite plumb the depths required to merit this ranking IMO. Lower middle table just above the drop zone for me. I personally have it just above the even more woeful SF. Having said that, I'm not going to quibble over this one.

    DAD is the only one I can wholeheartedly agree on, but DAD is almost a given in the bottom 5 these days. An easy target.

    I see your point of view. For me, I could never get into YOLT. There’s just something off-putting about it that I can’t quite put my finger on... I do love the set design by Ken Adam and of course John Barry’s score but that’s about it. DAF I just find incredibly bad all around, from the dialogue, the action, to the badly written characters. There’s
    nothing that really stands out, except Sean’s performance, where he seems to get back to TB levels of cool and swag.

    Spectre. *Sigh*. Never have I ever been so bored to tears while watching a Bond film. I genuinely did not care about anything that was going on in the story. Sure, it looks great, but the recycled SF score, Daniel Craig’s lackadaisical performance, the forced relationship between Bond and Maddy, and Brothergate... It all, to put it bluntly, pisses me off. Yes, DAD is a bad film but I only put it slightly above SP because there’s at least some interesting elements going on plot-wise, and the first 2/3 of the film is actually fairly solid...until
    it tanks in Iceland.
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    First time I saw SP I was bored rigid. Same as SF tbh. Something about Mendes's pacing. But on a rewatch I enjoyed SP a little more. I don't really care for either of them too much. QOS is Craig's best IMO - so far. I think QOS was possibly also Craig's best performance. To date.
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
    Posts: 265
    Getafix wrote: »
    First time I saw SP I was bored rigid. Same as SF tbh. Something about Mendes's pacing. But on a rewatch I enjoyed SP a little more. I don't really care for either of them too much. QOS is Craig's best IMO - so far. I think QOS was possibly also Craig's best performance. To date.

    I know what you mean about Mendes’ pacing. There’s a lot of this meandering and lingering on too long on shots, for example. It’s like “ok, get to the point already.” CR is Craig’s benchmark film. And if I had to choose between SF, SP, and OoS I’d choose QoS; the only other drawback it has, besides following on the heels of CR, is the editing (too choppy) and its pacing (it moves way too quickly). But when it finally slows down and breathes, it succeeds. M and Bond’s conversation before White’s interrogation, those three scenes with Bond and Mathis (when they reunite, “what’s keeping you awake?”, and his death scene), Tosca, as well as Bond and Camille in the sinkhole and the last 15 minutes....god, it’s just perfect.
  • Daniel316Daniel316 United States
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    Getafix wrote: »
    QOS is Craig's best IMO - so far. I think QOS was possibly also Craig's best performance. To date.

    Yes I very much agree with this Getafix, QOS is easily Craig's best.
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    I think QOS is great! It plays to Craig's strengths very well and nicely stands out among his era as the short, fast-paced one. However, CR and SF are still my favorites. All 3 frankly are fantastic for my money though. SP is the black sheep in quality by far for me... hopefully to remain that way after NTTD drops.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I love QOS (Top Ten), and SF is pretty close, but to me CR stands alone in that group. One of the elite Bond films.

    That's fair. As great as QOS and SF are, CR did achieve something higher - a perfect Bond film, as far as I'm concerned, and it's never threatened by its sequels as far as the ranking goes for me. Though it's not entirely set in stone, my current Top 5 and bottom 5 I'd choose would go:

    Top:
    1. Casino Royale
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. Thunderball
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. Skyfall

    Bottom
    1. Die Another Day
    2. Diamonds Are Forever
    3. Spectre
    4. The World Is Not Enough
    5. Octopussy
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