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    Utah tourist Kurt Cochran named as victim



    Kurt Cochran, from Utah, died and his wife Melissa was critically injured.

    The couple were visiting her parents who work at a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints mission in London.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Forgive me for bringing this up, but it is gnawing at me: I can't get around the fact that the attack appeared to take place in the same location on the bridge where Blofeld's helicopter crashed in SP. Ironic. Coincidence. But in researching this, I didn't realize how big a part this bridge has played in many films. This isn't just a cultural landmark; it's a pop culture landmark as well. So the attack was likely orchestrated to take place on a "big stage" and belittle it. Sorry--not going to happen. From reports I have read, people are back on the bridge today! I love that Londoners will NOT have others rip away their cultural identity so quickly.

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    Yep its business as normal for us @TripAces ,even though I work close by.

    No change,and yes the bridge is open and being used as we speak .
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    Very interesting detail from an amateur boxer who was there and showed great bravery but it does add to the impression that unarmed Police (and bystanders) were doing their best to hold off this guy until an armed officer arrived.

    An Army veteran who was among the first on the scene of the Westminster attack has told how he tried to save the life of murdered police officer Keith Palmer.

    Tony Davis, who is now a GB Boxing coach, jumped over a barrier and tried to intervene moments after the officer was attacked.

    Davis, from Darlington, told ITV’s This Morning he was leaving parliament following a press event with a group of boxers when he saw the attack taking place.

    There were people running, coming round towards the gate.

    All of a sudden I saw a large chap brandishing two knives come through the gates and start attacking the policeman.

    At that point instinct kicked in, I leaped over the fence because that guy needed assistance.

    The police were holding their ground and that is when poor Keith got attacked. You start moving back with adrenaline pumping in.

    t this point the assailant was coming towards us and I recall out of the corner of my eye one of the marksmen coming out and putting three rounds in him.
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    The man police believe to be responsible for the terrorist attack in Westminster has been formally identified as Khalid Masood, Scotland Yard says.

    Masood, aged 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands.

    Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack, police say.

    However, he was known to the police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.

    He has not been convicted of any terrorism offences.
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    London's inter-faith leaders stand together

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    Members of the capital's religious communities gathered at Scotland Yard on Thursday afternoon.
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    College students' tribute to PC Palmer

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    A-level students Tyler Chapperley-Russell and Will Robins met PC Keith Palmer while on a college trip to London last year.

    They were taking photos around the Palace of Westminster when they noticed PC Palmer was behind them and he joined in.

    They described the Met officer as ''highly professional'' and ''not your typical police officer''.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 2017 Posts: 18,348
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    That's what im wondering Dragon.

    The police lifting of suspects in Birmingham points to that theory too.
    Indeed..if it happens again somewhere,today or tomorrow,then it will definitely mean that.

    Or it has just triggered every fanatic out there to have a go.

    Yes, there is the fear of copycat low-tech attacks like this and the one in Belgian where a soldier's gun was grabbed. Knives and a car were all that were needed by that lunatic yesterday for instance.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    Mrcoggins wrote: »
    Where did that come from @Mendes ? Link please.

    Errr, just twitter. Went by the name Abu Izzadeen.

    twitter My Arse perhaps you will think twice before you post anything again eh Mendes .
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @TripAces

    I had the same thoughts yesterday. That's why I posted the picture I made on the bridge last September.

    It is an iconic place if I may say so. Featured in so many films as you said. And in Spectre very prominently of course.

    It deeply saddens me what happened in London, or Berlin, or Nizza, or Brussels and other places.

    Luckily Switzerland never suffered from this new wave of terrorism that has the world hostage since 9/11. But as an army officer, I would not hesitate doing my job if it was demanded. The Swiss Army would be on the streets if terrorism would happen.

    The British are brave people and they will not falter or surrender to terrorism. NEVER.

    The cowardly acts done with vehicles and trucks is the latest low of terrorism. Now it seems on crowed parts of towns, Bollards have to be installed to prevent cars or trucks from driving to boardwalks or crowded squares etc.

    But where does it stop. How much are we willing to give up of our freedom to be a little safer?


    Another picture taken by me last September. The people in the London Eye had to be there for over an hour I believe. Imagine how they must have felt.

    I can't wait to be in London this September for 10 days. I will be on that bridge again, and commemorating the victims.

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    Banning religion is an impractical and silly suggestion that smacks of dictatorial lack of tolerance

    However, claiming that the people who carry out these attacks would find another source of motivation to kill people is also nonsense.

    Several religions instruct or compel people to commit heinous crimes.

    I was in s hotel the other day and out of boredom picked up the Gideon bible. The page fell open at Deuteronomy. The first paragraph/chapter/verse I read spoke about how any woman who loses her virginity out of marriage is to be stoned to death on the doorstep of her fathers house.

    Where is the 'metaphor' here. Where is the moral teaching? Lunatic claptrap written by ignorant people's thousands of years ago that have no plane in the modern world.

    Sure you can pick and choose the bits you like (I find this massively hypocritical) like a greedy man with a large plate at a buffet, but there is always someone who acts upon this instruction

    Islam is currently where Christianity was about 5-600 years ago in terms of reformation. We've fought off the oppression of the church in Western Europe and as such enjoy freedom that seems like a pipe dream to many people in the Middle East
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Sadly this attack could be as influence to what are we afraid of now saying from Greg Wilson which may then influence the script of bond 25 written by p&w

    I feel the next Bond film should feature a domestic attack in England, as well as a threat to major world leaders - perhaps even at the hand of another world leader, behind the scenes.

    Would be realistic enough in today's age, and the perfect plot for escapism in the Bond franchise. Many lessons to be learned here. A great story may unfold.

    That sounds fantastic
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    NO WAY...leave London alone,it has been attacked in the last 2 Bond films,making our police,MI6,MI5 look all useless.

    If they do that AGAIN then thats that,especially after yesterday .
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    007Blofeld wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Sadly this attack could be as influence to what are we afraid of now saying from Greg Wilson which may then influence the script of bond 25 written by p&w

    I feel the next Bond film should feature a domestic attack in England, as well as a threat to major world leaders - perhaps even at the hand of another world leader, behind the scenes.

    Would be realistic enough in today's age, and the perfect plot for escapism in the Bond franchise. Many lessons to be learned here. A great story may unfold.

    That sounds fantastic

    Don't encourage it.
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    I can't believe what I am reading on this thread
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    Neither can i and i am getting more and more angry by the minute here..
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    007Blofeld wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Sadly this attack could be as influence to what are we afraid of now saying from Greg Wilson which may then influence the script of bond 25 written by p&w

    I feel the next Bond film should feature a domestic attack in England, as well as a threat to major world leaders - perhaps even at the hand of another world leader, behind the scenes.

    Would be realistic enough in today's age, and the perfect plot for escapism in the Bond franchise. Many lessons to be learned here. A great story may unfold.

    That sounds fantastic
    One practical reason against this: The UK is just not MI6 territory. That domestic attack would be dealt with by MI5. Just like stuff like the Trump campaign's coziness with Russia is no business for the CIA, but for the FBI. So while the plot might make for an exciting movie, it couldn't be a Bond movie, provided we want to have at least a trace of basic credibility.

    And yes, we should leave London alone for a change.
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    I'm sure this isn't the place to speculate on Bond 25. Lord knows yesterday demonstrated the world is running out of decency.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    TripAces wrote: »
    Forgive me for bringing this up, but it is gnawing at me: I can't get around the fact that the attack appeared to take place in the same location on the bridge where Blofeld's helicopter crashed in SP.
    Actually, the attack yesterday somewhat reminded me of SF rather than SP, even though M was on Vauxhall Bridge when the MI6 building blew up.

    Additionally, there was a small clip that was shown on tv yesterday of Theresa May being whisked away in a silver Jaguar Jaguar XJ L with the sirens flashing in the grill followed by a black Sport Utility Vehicle. That scene reminded me very much of M's arrival at the scene of the explosion and also her escape with Bond from the courthouse.

    Eerie similarities.
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    Report on BBC News that the terrorist was actually shot by the Defence Secretary's personal bodyguard rather than an armed Police Officer. If true, this raises even more questions re the level of security/protection provided.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Surely we needn't be getting ideas on the next Bond movie after an attack as fresh and deadly as this one. Let's be respectful, please.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    =D> agreed, a little more respect please.
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 19,339
    im off,i cant take this total disrespect for my city,my country and the people that live here..

    Some of you need to grow up and show some respect,this is NOT a fucking BOND SCENARIO....you disgust me.
    Im tempted to leave here altogether after seeing this..i have DVD's of Bond,thats all the fix i need if this is the future on here..i dont need to hear this when British and one American (yes American members,feel proud ,discussing a Bond scenario ? ) people have been killed or injured.

    Oh,and we lost another victim,a 75 year old man tonight,if you bothered to check.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    This is too raw a wound for The UK, a little more decorum would be appreciated.
    Sadly, there will probably be more deaths to come. So I'm sure a little respect and
    Solidarity would be appreciated by all.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @barryt007, there's no need to go - it took me a while to catch up with this thread, or else I would've stepped in much sooner. Apologies.
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    Matt007 wrote: »
    Banning religion is an impractical and silly suggestion that smacks of dictatorial lack of tolerance

    However, claiming that the people who carry out these attacks would find another source of motivation to kill people is also nonsense.

    Several religions instruct or compel people to commit heinous crimes.

    I was in s hotel the other day and out of boredom picked up the Gideon bible. The page fell open at Deuteronomy. The first paragraph/chapter/verse I read spoke about how any woman who loses her virginity out of marriage is to be stoned to death on the doorstep of her fathers house.

    Where is the 'metaphor' here. Where is the moral teaching? Lunatic claptrap written by ignorant people's thousands of years ago that have no plane in the modern world.

    Sure you can pick and choose the bits you like (I find this massively hypocritical) like a greedy man with a large plate at a buffet, but there is always someone who acts upon this instruction

    Islam is currently where Christianity was about 5-600 years ago in terms of reformation. We've fought off the oppression of the church in Western Europe and as such enjoy freedom that seems like a pipe dream to many people in the Middle East

    The Deuteronomy quote only refers to Israelites at that time of redemptive history. The 'moral' teaching is that God's people must obey him. Which we can't. Which is why we need Jesus.
  • My condolences to those affected by the attacks. This world seems to be becoming much more scarier and dangerous each, and every day.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Jesus would be deported as a radical socialist idealist illegal immigrant.
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    I can't believe what I am reading on this thread

    I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Bond is about realism and escapism coalescing into one, to create a great story. I'm merely saying that if the UK is (one of many) nations attacked as a result of a villanous plot, tied to - potentially - a sitting foreign leader, it would make for a great film that we can relate to.

    The Bond novels are dark, gritty, and edgy. With all the violence and rape that occurs in the books, Fleming never held back in his writing. The same should go for the films. Let's see something really dark. Something that gives Bond and his allies a feeling of purpose. The world is feeling pretty hopeless at the moment. Allow Bond an opportunity to make the last big stand, showing that hate may sometimes win, but justice and good will always prevail.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    im off,i cant take this total disrespect for my city,my country and the people that live here..

    Some of you need to grow up and show some respect,this is NOT a fucking BOND SCENARIO....you disgust me.
    Im tempted to leave here altogether after seeing this..i have DVD's of Bond,thats all the fix i need if this is the future on here..i dont need to hear this when British and one American (yes American members,feel proud ,discussing a Bond scenario ? ) people have been killed or injured.

    Oh,and we lost another victim,a 75 year old man tonight,if you bothered to check.

    So, this isn't a Bond scenario, but tying 9/11 into Casino Royale is? Perhaps it's my numbness from the country I live in, where these acts of violence occur frequently, but please, give me a break. My heart and most profound condolences go out to the wonderful City of London. But fiction is fiction. Its imagination. Make believe. Drawn from reality - that which is good and bad.

    Don't take it personally. No one is bashing London or the UK. From each event that happens in real life, we may very well learn hard, yet necessary lessons in film and other works of fiction.
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