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I was referring to Commander Ross claim.
Says the man with the best supported posts of the forum.
But I'll just throw in some internet opinions to make my statement a fact.. ;-)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-americans-look-to-the-rest-of-the-world/
https://www.quora.com/How-do-Europeans-view-Americans
https://www.budgettravel.com/article/10-things-europeans-say-about-you-behind-your-back_34433
@Escalus5 if that were true and America would be a democracy, wouldn't there be gun control? As in Demos=people Cratos=Strength. Or is this an oversimplification?
@Thunderfinger no doubt will brand this 'fake news', but I'd call it 'understanding basic principles'.
"Don't listen to what I said, listen to what I meant." The quote SHOWN in your doubtful posting was Escalus5's. At this point, you're just being contentious for its own sake. Let us know when you've got something meaningful to contribute, okay?
I would suspect that the lack of postal cancellation on the package(s) in question indicate that they were snuck into the system at some point beyond the local Post Office counter where Joe & Jane Average mail their items. This suggests that someone among the bombers actually works for the Post Office. I'm sure we can all agree that Post Office employees can be members of any political party or persuasion, beyond the simple yin/yang of D or R, and that this little nugget of information does not rule either political party in or out of suspicion.
2) Possibilities: The cancellation stamp was out of ink, and no one noticed. The cancellation stamp was out of ink and no one cared. The cancellation stamp was not used. The package was delivered by the sender directly, using the postal service as cover. The package was created by the receiving party and never went through the mail. The package was beamed to the sender using a matter-transportation device from the future to frame Trump followers to get history to follow the path it should have before the Klingons changed it by giving Putin the the low level technology (by their standards) to get his asset Trump into the White House in 2017 (Earth time). Or, the cancellation stamp was out of ink, and no one noticed.
;)
Not all the bombs were mailed.
@MrUnpleasant, didn t get to bite the mailman today?
Escalus understood it just fine.
@Littlefinger, as DJT should have learned from current events but probably hasn't: watch out what you try to evoke. You just might get it.
Wow, these articles have been really helpful. So a random dude in Norway generalizes a population of 325 million as lacking in nuance based on his anecdotal experiences? Truly eye-opening research you've got there, Ross.
An oversimplification. We've been down this road before, in this very thread, but basically it concerns the influence of the gun lobbyists on our politicians.
Even so, we do have strict gun laws in certain areas (Chicago, for instance).
I'd like to see this real world mess halted first....
By the way @chrisisall, we of the “low life” community understand that we exist simply as cannon fodder, our skins being completely worthless except as carpeting for those of Royal and Noble stations in life to tread upon. Thank you for your earlier posted concern, but like the “untouchables”, we are fully aware of what life has to offer us. The trifling of the poor and meek is of little concern for those of higher stations in life. As is often noted, “Rank has its’ Privileges”.
https://thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2018/10/24/a-handy-guide-to-donald-trumps-23-most-frequent-campaign-rally-lies.html
But on the left? *Looks around* All I see is a (very) small group named Antifa that consists of masked dudes that occasionally attempt to kick some Nazi butt. That's not the left, and it's an extremely tiny percentage of even the far, far left.
Fox news has done its evil work on your perceptions, I see.
Please, rip that 'low life' label off yourself.
;)
Art reflects life, @chris. If we can see how 007 would fix this mess, it might give us some ideas on how we should proceed...
Don't worry, everybody generalizes all groups of people that can be adressed by the same (or a similar) moniker. This obviously was just to poke fun at that norwegian guy @Thunderfinger who's always asking for proof (as we obviously are misled by the fake news) but never himself comes up with anything substantial to support his own, often questionable claims. Yes, and I understand that, but there's often a solid truth in simplifications: can you still call a country a democracy as not the will of the people, but the will of corporations and/ or lobby groups is the main steering factor for politics.
The problem is that we're always so strongly opined about how people should've behaved in the 1930ies, but when you live in times where boundaries are pushed, we end up with a majority accepting those new boundaries time and time again, even defending the purpetrator.
@chrisisall it so happens it was a far-left animal rights activist who commited the first political murder in my country in over 400 years. Antifa are as agressive as the far right, allthough they may as yet not have the same tradition of violence the far right in the US have. But don't worry, they'll catch up.
Now in some good news:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/25/africa/ethiopia-first-female-president-intl/index.html
Ethiopia is on a straight course to peace and prosperity, and I only just found out (it's not only about the President).
I believe facts show that the far right extremists (to put it in the most neutral term I can) are considerably more violent in reality than any group on the far left (in the U.S.). With so much in the news happening, I don't want to dwell on this, though. But I mention it as it was talked about briefly in above posts.
Trump and The Caravan: How to inflame fear for his benefit.
The lies and pushing of fear/anger/bigotry is ramping up more and more as midterm elections are on our doorstep. They are not close to our border yet. They are not filled with "Middle Eastern" people. They have a right, by our U.S. laws, to arrived at the border and seek asylum. That is not illegal.
Also ... sending Federal troops, if actually done, is a serious step.
It does not bode well as Trump has been hinting at martial law interference for some time, certainly more recently. His rhetoric of "terrorists" "assaults" "criminals" and all his accusations are building. Mexcan police are weak but he is strong.
It is sick. Wrong. UnAmerican, and against our basic principles. So yes, we need to keep an eye on this situation; which is one that he is clearly making (and GOP supporting rabidly to deter people from voting Democrat).
As always you can click into the tweet for the further comments.
Such as retired Lt. General Hertling here:
But I do believe it is certainly not a case of "both sides are the same" or "both sides do it" (implying the same). Violence is wrong, and one of the things has hold our democracy, our country, together is that we make changes by voting not by violence. That's important. In no way is Chris, or anyone on here that I know, promoting violence being okay by anybody.
Point is: violence is never okay. We have legitimate reason to be wary about the far right and far left (because their goals are the same; chaos and destruction). They are not the majority of Americans, thankfully, but we have to keep track of this, of course. And speak up against violence. Every time.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1051973730824409088.html
Much as I hate to disagree with you, @4Ever, let's remember what Sir Sean told us decades back: Never Say Never (Again.) Speaking as a lifelong pacifist, I have to say that in certain extreme circumstances, violence is indeed the appropriate response. When confronting Nazis, punch early, punch often, and punch for keeps. If punching Nazis is good enough for Indiana Jones and Captain America, who am I to say them nay?
As a lifelong martial arts guy, I believe in the Shaolin way.
"Avoid, rather than check. Check, rather than hurt. Hurt, rather than maim. Maim, rather than kill. For all life is precious, nor can any be replaced."
However...
"Challenge the wind, and reap the whirlwind."
Let's assume I try to best vote for candidates strictly on the policies that I feel best benefit the country (ignoring theatrics). Given that condition, if a candidate I want to vote for is one who is associated with a party that is linked with recent acts of violence (inadvertently or not), does that mean I should not vote for that candidate?
If an individual does not self-identify as a Nazi, how do you determine if they are one? At what point of their actions does it make it ok to incite violence against them (particularly if they are just saber rattling)?
Trump is trying to forge a new path regarding immigration now by blocking immigrants (who are allowed to come into our country and ask for asylum) - but he also is surely aware how inflammatory this is and a great way to cause distraction from things like actual bombs being sent to Democrats and media. Trump knows that fearmongering, and the immigration issue, is his big ticket with his base and the media gobbles it up because it is inflammatory, sometimes outlandish what he says or proposes to do.
So yes, I think he will keep ramping things up. On purpose. He does not honestly or consistently try to talk down violence. Just the opposite, actually, in speech after speech. That is his style, and his history shows that; let's remember he was mentored by disgraced, disbarred Roy Cohn.
(This article is from January of this year)
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/07/576209428/president-trump-called-for-roy-cohn-but-roy-cohn-was-gone
I'm surprised some questions have to be asked. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck and has feathers like a duck you can bloody well assume it's a duck. If it's got brown shirts Proud Boys like a Nazi and demonizes Jews Muslims like a Nazi and practices The Big Lie like Donald Trump a Nazi then I don't care what it calls itself; it's a stinking Nazi and I don't want it anywhere near my White House. Let's not kid ourselves -- if it's only sabre rattling right now then we need to stop it before the sabre becomes a bone saw and that bone saw is being used against, oh, let's say journalists that live in America and work for American newspapers. Have I made myself perfectly clear or am I being just a tad bit too allegorical for you? Okay, in words no greater than two syllables: right now, the R Party has become the Trump Party and needs to be put down. Hard. The R Party can re-make itself once it has purged the Trump sickness from its bloated body and at that point decent people can think about voting R again without fearing that they are actually supporting a fascist. But for now, there are only 2 choices as I see them: Vote Blue no matter who, or vote Red and this country might as well be dead.
PS: Please don't go 3rd Party on me right now. I've voted 3rd Party in the past; I've even campaigned for 3rd Party candidates in the past. I've also voted for Republicans in the past. No many, true -- but a few. Right now it's a binary choice, and pushing the button for the Red candidate is saying you agree with Trump and want him to continue on his selfish, evil, destructive path.
Be afraid, be very afraid. Snowflake. Or be like Lady Liberty and lift your lamp beside the golden door.