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Disagree. And if I want to make one word comments I damn well will. It is a free country isn't it ... oh wait, let's let terrorists dictate our rule of law and our right to free speech, whether it be but a single word.
Experience.
The phrase 'police state' seems to be bandied around, when in fact it is targeted action against the enemies of Great Britain, its people and its way of life. The simple fact is that we don't have to put up with what we are putting up with, we can remove much of the threat at source.
I'll bide my time until it emerges that the PoS and any associates were previously known to police/MI5 as suspected terrorists. I will then ask the question of the detractors that would it have been better to take these people out of circulation in order to protect the wider civilian population or, focus only on their personal 'rights', and allow them to remain at large to do what they have done and will continue to do?
When exactly does the balance of justice shift from the terrorist to the victim?
@patb thanks for speaking sense.
Erm ... that's what they already do ...
Your sister must be in shock !
That's terrible news, I hope they all made it out just fine. One of my first thoughts last night when I saw this unfolding was just how many people on here likely lived in/near the area and just might've been involved in going to the concert.
It isn't. Far from it. With all due respect you appear to be ping ponging a bit in response to different posts.
Before you weren't taking at all of evidence. If MI5/the police have enough evidence to arrest a suspect they most certainly do. So if I'm the proverbial ping pong it's because you mislaid the evidence ...
Please note also that I am not taking the easy route out, by this I mean I choose not to claim a desire to no longer speak about the subject when it doesn't suit me to. After all this is a discussion forum.
Please, where do you stand? Do you believe that the rights of the terrorist should be placed above those of the ordinary citizen? From where I'm sitting it appears to be the case.
If there was a simple solution it would have been chosen. Unless we want to give up all our freedoms because it would make us safer we will have to do with checks and balances in the law and society and human rights. If we don't they have won and we do also disappear in an autocratic society.
FYI the next step is to accuse me of racism.
I meant knock it off starting a discussion that has been many times with no solution but a moderator closing a thread.
There a different views and some will never agree but today's loss is one that hurts everybody. As will any future loss or any past loss.
I do hope your sisters friend will be okay. That is actually very important.
Mod Edit for language.
Well then stop being a cock about the post. If you won't even read it then you have no clue as to what its' contents are or why it might be useful to you to read.
But you just keep calling for us to not help refugees who are trying to escape from acts of terror like this. I bet you'r next argument is that we should help all those homeless people in our own backyard who you've never before given a toss about, right?
Also it may be best if you stop attempting to turn the discussion away from what it is and into a platform upon which you can mount personal attacks?
I look forward to you pointing out the posts in which you allege I speak on such terms about refugees. You might find out - if you do care to look - that I restrict myself to terrorists - not Muslims or refugees. I also look forward (though don't expect) an apology for misrepresenting me in this manner. If you are successful (and please note, just in case I am trying to cover my tracks, the times of any editing) I will apologise to you.
Thank you and happy hunting though my posts.
It is very frustrating, I know, but that's where the boundaries lie. So idiots like this will always have a chance to attack defenseless people. we can't prevent that, other then trying to talk sense into their heads. Or stop them right before they actually hurt someone, as happened recently at the British Parliament.
I sincerely hope your sister's friend is ok!