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  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    Another sad reflection of how, in some ways, our culture has delclined re having a backbone. Did families of those killed in the Guildford pub bombings try to get compensation from the landlords for letting them in the pub?
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    What happened tonight on London Bridge? I just heard a report of a van slamming into five or six people? Any more news?
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited June 2017 Posts: 11,425
    Nothing yet. Could be a nutter or a pissed idiot. We had one of the latter in Times Square recently I think.

    I don't know what time this happened exactly but I would have expected an Islamist to choose rush hour or a busier time of the day.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    Getafix wrote: »
    Nothing yet. Could be a nutter or a pissed idiot. We had one of the latter in Times Square recently I think.

    I don't know what time this happened exactly but I would have expected an Islamist to choose rush hour or a busier time of the day.

    Running over people and stabbing them sounds awfully what I think it is.
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited June 2017 Posts: 11,425
    Yep does sound like it I agree. Just read about the reports of stabbings
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    Just watching BBC this is not good
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    brutal... I haven't been to England in about twenty years. My parents kept their matrimonial home near Epping Forest in Essex; it was where we used to go for summer (my entire family (outside of immediate) were there). They recently sold the house since, according to them, they don't notice areas of London anymore.

    The last couple of weeks is a loud warning that whatever is in place to deal with home-grown Islamic fundamentalism is clearly not working. I'm afraid things are going to have to get very ugly if western values of freedom (in all of its states) is to win.

    Good luck to all of us.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    My mum was 5 minutes away from crossing London Bridge coming back from the Depeche Mode concert. Too close to home. Had me worried since I hadn't heard from her but she managed to call me and says she's perfectly fine.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    My mum was 5 minutes away from crossing London Bridge coming back from the Depeche Mode concert. Too close to home. Had me worried since I hadn't heard from her but she managed to call me and says she's perfectly fine.

    Glad to here mate
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    what the hell is going on these days?
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited June 2017 Posts: 5,080
    fire_and_ice wrote: »
    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    My mum was 5 minutes away from crossing London Bridge coming back from the Depeche Mode concert. Too close to home. Had me worried since I hadn't heard from her but she managed to call me and says she's perfectly fine.

    Glad to here mate

    Thank you. Just heard that there's another incident at Vauxhall. She's trying to get back to Kennington, and so this is likely to delay her. Thinks only a few minutes away.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    I try not to get into politics and religion online, my opinion is irrelevant though this can't carry on.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
    Double post
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Another horrible attack !
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
    I know where this is going, this in not good
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    fire_and_ice wrote: »
    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    My mum was 5 minutes away from crossing London Bridge coming back from the Depeche Mode concert. Too close to home. Had me worried since I hadn't heard from her but she managed to call me and says she's perfectly fine.

    Glad to here mate

    Thank you. Just heard that there's another incident at Vauxhall. She's trying to get back to Kennington, and so this is likely to delay her. Thinks only a few minutes away.

    I can't imagine how you felt, it's so surreal I lived in London during the London bombing it's scary for loved ones and ourselves
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
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  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Sounds like a single coordinated attack. Van driving into people on London Bridge. Terrorists proceed from van to stab people around Borough Market. Vauxhall incident separate non terrorist related.
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    Sky have a direct eye witness within a restaurant who is positive that there were five guys, all armed with knives. If this is true, then its another new element to the terrorist threat. Just horrible.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
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  • GetafixGetafix
    edited June 2017 Posts: 11,425
    Have lived in London on and off over the years. Not there now. Just picking up whats being reported. I.e there was a stabbing in Vauxhall but not thought to be terrorist related. The terrorist attack seems centred on the south end of London Bridge. Hoping they've killed or arrested them all by now.
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    Borough Market is full of Victorian alleys and side roads. Nightmare for the Police to clear and declare safe.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,009
    Hope everyone from the forums located in/near London is somewhere safe.
  • bigladiesmanbigladiesman
    Posts: 1,009
    Maybe this is related to the London attacks, but I dunno if this happened before or after: In Cardiff, 40 Juventus fans injured on a panicking human avalanche. Some jerk threw a firecracker and caused havoc all over the place.

    The expected and tragic side effects of terrorism.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    And p and w say it's hard to write a bond film right now that is baloney
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Look at all the threats in the world there are plenty
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited June 2017 Posts: 9,117
    Getafix wrote: »
    Nothing yet. Could be a nutter or a pissed idiot.

    But it wasn't was it.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
    Posts: 4,151
    Awful events once again. Watching things like this unfold live on TV is becoming all too familiar.
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
    Posts: 1,053
    This is only the beginning. Again I predict that the vermin responsible were known to the police and security services. Had they been removed from the loop as I advocate, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    I am also guessing that there may be another attack upon the concert tonight, not necessarily at the venue itself, but one of the many choke points leading to it.

    Cue the apologists.............
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