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Me too. It is akin to holding a viper to your heart.
Spot on...you have to be so careful now,its basically not worth the risk.
"The great thing about (insert the city that was bombed) is that we don't give in" "People are out and about"
Another perfect example of the vacuous and useless PR being produced. If London wanted to give in, what would it looked like. People are doing what they have to do. Work, pick kids up from school, visit relatives etc. This is then spun into "Dunkirk spirit" junk. This is from the Head of the Met Police. I would have hoped he had better things to do.
PS Nice post from a colleague on Linkedin today who spotted an abandoned rucksack in central London and called the police but watched around 200 people just walk on by.
PPS Anyone see the recent T May inteview on ABC TV network? Asked about the recent attack, she again goes to the control of the internet and greater powers for the police. Islam is a word that seemingly cannot be used.
Of course, the knock on effect for the Police is that they get so many more calls with many many false alarms from members of the public who are vigilant. Its just human nature to leave/forget bags. Just look at the lost property depts at TFL
Online jihadist content 'attracts more clicks in Britain than any other country in Europe'
Online jihadist content attracts more clicks in Britain than any other country in Europe, a major new report warns.
Analysts found the Islamic State terror group (IS) was still pumping out vast volumes of internet propaganda despite coming under intense military pressure in Iraq and Syria.
Experts say the group produces around 100 pieces of new content in an average week - but this is a conservative estimate.
The in-depth study by think tank Policy Exchange says tens of thousands of users access jihadist material online from all over the globe.
Researchers found the UK was the fifth most frequent location from which content was accessed - after Turkey, the US, Saudi Arabia and Iraq - and registered the largest number of clicks in Europe.
Concerns over the availability of terrorist material such as execution videos and bomb-making instructions on the internet have intensified after Britain was targeted by its fifth terror attack of the year.
In a forward for the paper, former US military chief General David Petraeus highlighted last week's events at Parsons Green.
He said: "The attempted bombing of an underground train in London last Friday - using a device that can be built from instructions available online - merely underscored once again the ever-present nature of this threat."
Gen Petraeus warned that efforts to combat extremism online have been "inadequate".
He wrote: "There is no doubting the urgency of this matter. The status quo clearly is unacceptable."
The 131-page assessment finds that the decline of IS - also known as ISIS or Daesh - in the online space has been "significantly overstated".
It says: "For at least a year, the production of content has continued despite the death of key figures, loss of territory and ongoing fighting."
The report details how:
In an average week IS produces over one hundred new articles, videos and newspapers;
They are disseminated across a "vast ecosystem" of platforms, file sharing services, websites and social media;
IS now uses encrypted messaging service Telegram as the core communication platform for talking to sympathisers;
But jihadists have not abandoned other platforms, with content also regularly accessed via Facebook, Google and Twitter;
Three in four people (74%) want big internet companies to be more proactive in locating and deleting extremist content, according to a poll.
The paper suggests the Government may wish to consider new laws to counter the possession and consumption of extremist material online.
Lead author Dr Martyn Frampton said governments and security services have been playing a "fruitless game of 'whack-a-mole"' which is focused on removing individual pieces of content.
He warned: "The evidence suggests that we are not winning the war against online extremism.
"If the internet companies won't do what their customers want and take more responsibility for removing this content, then government must take action through additional regulation and legislation."
This week Prime Minister Theresa May and French president Emmanuel Macron will hold talks to discuss possible new measures to tackle the problem.
It emerged earlier this year that Britain and France are looking at plans that could see technology firms face fines if their efforts are not up to scratch.
Home Secretary Amber Rudd warned the internet must not be a "safe space" for terrorists and criminals.
She said: "I have made it crystal clear to internet bosses that they need to go further and faster to remove terrorist content from their websites and prevent it being uploaded in the first place."
Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter and YouTube have set up the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism to spearhead efforts to clamp down on extremist content.
Twitter says terrorist content has no place on the platform.
Figures published by the microblogging site show 636,248 accounts were suspended in total between August 2015 and December 2016 for the promotion of terrorism.
Google said violent extremism was a "complex problem", adding: "We are committed to being part of the solution and we are doing more every day to tackle these issues.
"We are making significant progress through machine learning technology, partnerships with experts and collaboration with other companies through the Global Internet Forum - and we know there is more to be done."
Facebook said it is committed to fighting online extremism and works "aggressively" to remove terrorist content as soon as it becomes aware of it.
A spokeswoman added: "We've also built a shared industry database of 'hashes' - unique digital 'fingerprints' - of violent terrorist videos or images, which we're actively expanding and is helping us to act on such content even more quickly."
What is their background?
Why do they feel no emotional connection to liberal, Europe?
What are their core values?
Why do they not value our lives?
What drives their "journey"?
Did we , as a country, have a choice regarding them being in our country in the firstplace?
Why is suicide seen as acceptable/positive? (the complete opposite to Western culture)
PS https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/19/m1-motorway-closed-as-police-investigate-suspicious-package-milton-keynes
This article which I heard about on the radio this morning sadly does not surprise in the slightest. What it will do as I believe a lot of people now want this, is it to be criminalised for just viewing it. This will lead to greater online surveillance taking place across everyone. You may well not even realise it? Scary and thought provoking times indeed.
When politicians start discussing IT, we are in big trouble. She is hopelessly out of her depth.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/810275/Manchester-Amber-Rudd-Met-Police-chief-terrorists-internment-camps
BTW, it would appear that the failed attack was carried out by a refugee who had been through the de-radicalisation programme and was thus known to the authorities. Still, and because it may upset the sensibilities of some, he was still allowed to walk the streets with mass murder in mind?
Exactly. It's a sad reflection on our society that free speech has now to play second fiddle to a plethora of political agendas.
Seems they've finally got round to questioning a few of the hate preachers
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2769098/BREAKING-NEWS-Nine-men-arrested-counter-terror-police-London-suspicion-encouraging-terrorism.html#ixzz4tGPiJUCg
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Yeah I've never understood that either. Look at us carrying on as normal how brave and noble. Well call me cynical but what else exactly are people expected to do? If they haven't been directly affected then of course we're going to get on with our lives.
As for Theresa May, don't expect her to address the root of the problem any time soon. Our relationship with the Saudis is too lucerative for them to do that.
Why am I not surprised....he should have been permanently silenced rather than tax payers paying for his prison costs.
And his entire family should be deported instantly.
Why? One person being an extremist doesn't mean the whole family are. I'm all for stricter measures and I'm as sick of the whole "dividing us is what they want" spiel as anyone but reactionary comments like this aren't going to help anyone. By all means look into the family and see if there are any other suspected extremists there but just deporting a whole group of potentially innocent people for the crime of being related to someone? How's that going to help?
Detaining people on the watchlists, law enforcement working to form close relationships with muslim communities, that's the sort of solution I can get behind. Or even better, damage the funding of the groups inspiring our homegrown terrorists by cutting ties with Saudi Arabia and calling for sanctions against them. But demanding the govt deport all the brown people isn't going to help anyone.
It would give the fanatics food for thought before they act,thats what it would do.An i'm not a reactionary so don't call me that.
Thanks.
Your solution,just out of interest ?
The fanatics more often that not believe themselves to be martyrs. They don't care what happens to them and don't care about their family (otherwise why risk bringing all that to their doorstep). Deporting innocent people for being related to an extremist wouldn't deter anyone or solve anything. All you'd do is piss people within the muslim communities off and alienate any potential extremists further.
As I said by all means keep an eye on any friends or family members he had, if they find anything really suspicious even detain them. But as far as we know at this point his family are completely innocent. Demanding that they basically have their whole lives torn away from them because of what one relative has done, as part of some misjudged pointless attempt at sending a message, is horrible. They should address the root of the problem instead of deporting innocent people as an act of revenge or deterrence.
Apparently an 'asylum seeker' from Syria who entered the UK illegally was living in foster care by a kindly couple in Surrey.
Repays this country granting him asylum by trying to murder people by blowing them up as they travel to work.
Charming.
Infiltrate these groups with undercover police. More and better Intel. Arrest and prosecute whenever possible. Best possible police response when incidents occur. Major campaigns in schools and uni to counter radicalisation. Preparedness for a long 20-30 (at least) year struggle before the problem is brought completely under control. And of course stop the Saudis and Qataris spreading their BS ideology in the UK.
Well said @Getafix. I'd also add police working closely with muslim communities, more relationships/links there would make it easier to root out extremists.
Putting to death would solve nothing as far as I can see.