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A crime is a crime though, and loss of innocent life is unacceptable to me. Innocent people shouldn't have to pay for other's crimes, anywhere in the world. Those who perpetrate such crimes should be the ones to pay. I find loss of life in Mosul or Aleppo on account of bombing campaigns deplorable and horrific as well by the way.
The one thing I would highly suggest is a detanglement from wars in Middle Eastern (Islamic) countries. That is one more thing that feeds this cancer, and the sooner that excuse can be removed from the equation, one can more readily take the moral high ground in this fight against Radical Islamic (Salafist or Wahabi) Jihadism (which means 'struggle'). Most of this is perpetrated by the eternal Sunni vs. Shia conflict. If they want to destroy each other, let them. It's best not to get in the way. Especially in a post-Brexit world, it's imperative that the UK not waste money in these entanglements.
Where there must be a zero tolerance policy is when citizens of the UK or other Western nations side with the jihadis and take up arms against their own citizens. If they are found guilty of that crime, they should be dealt the severest penalty under the law. Unfortunately, most of the perpetrators plan to die as part of their plan, and so apprehending them is difficult after the fact. If they are caught, there should be life imprisonment. Lock them up, and throw away the key.
I wouldn't want us to waste tax payers money on keeping them in prison...its treason,and treason should mean the death penalty.
It needs to come back for the crime of treason at least.
Not if you execute them,strip their family of all assets,and deport them.
Let them know that they will be ruining the lives of their family as well,their weak spot or Achilles Heel.
Yes it is a bit of a conundrum....
Killing their family would lower our society to their standards. Everyone is accounteable for their own deeds, not that of their family members. And considering the fact that these extremist' guys are willing to offer children in their 'fight', no, I shouldn't call it fight, for for fighting you need two parties to engage, not one lunatic blowing himself up. Willing to offer their children in their delusional idiocy (sorry, can't find the proper words, should be far more derogatory) means they'd probably offer their family as well. No, the best way to discourage others is when they see these- er, creatures are incarcerated and society just keeps on going no matter what. That is a life long torture for them. They aim to disrupt and be remembered. Let them rot and be forgotten.
Very true - it's pure coincidence. Just a statistical blip. Are you Corbyn in disguise?
Very astute observation. If it's all due to us for not being tolerant of other cultures and allowing immigrants to integrate where are all the Chinese, Indian, West Indian and Polish suicide bombers?
@SaintMark, I'd appreciate it if you would stop putting words in my mouth and 'quoting' me for things I haven't said. I have already told you I am speaking about ALL terrorists, and cannot understand why you find this so difficult to compute (or is it you are just choosing to ignore?) I make no apologies nor retractions to my actual statements whereby I mooted the possibility of interning all terror suspects - again you choose how to interpret this in your own fashion - people who are known to pose a threat to us shouldn't be allowed to live among us.
Will you explain to me why you think people who are known/suspected terrorists (those for whom a body of proof as to their activities exists)/supporters of terrorism and returning jihadists should be allowed to roam free to further their cause and mount attacks?
Nowhere have I mentioned that Christians do not need to be educated about other religions, but you have to remember that this is a two way street. Why not 'educate' Muslims and other non Christian religions about Christianity instead (to turn your own quote) of being nationalistic about Arab states?
Also what about teaching people to show respect for the laws and culture of the country in which they have chosen to settle? This is not restricted to Muslims, but everyone who comes to stay here.
I think you are cherry picking. You only see what you want to see and deny everything else.
Lastly, I'm glad that members of the Muslim community seem to be 'very human' to you. Until you pointed that out I'm guessing you thought everyone else presumed they weren't!
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It's always easier to blame the victims than to address the root cause of the matter. Now don't get me wrong, there are victims on both sides here - by that I mean both sides of the law abiding peaceful community - but blame, especially when it alludes to certain religions or sections of society, is a word which dare not speak its name.
Again, its the religious and racial overtones that mean the the gov is weak. Can you imagine if all blue eye people or all red haired people decided to set up their own leagl system tomorrow. It would be regarded rightly as a joke and ridiculed. But Sharia law seems to be untouchable.
Can you imagine the impact within the UK and Europe if every other religion decided to set up its own system of law? Its just bonkers but somehow, Islam seem to think that it is special.
But perhaps its my fault, perhaps I need educating as to why a religion thinks its a requirement to run its own legal system.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/mar/01/inside-britains-sharia-councils-hardline-and-anti-women-or-a-dignified-way-to-divorce
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/feb/07/religion.world
Stockholm incident: Lorry rams people - at least 3 dead,many injured.
A lorry has driven into a store in the centre of the capital Stockholm, killing at least three people, Swedish media say.
Shots have also reportedly been fired.
Swedish police said a number of people were injured.
The incident took place on Drottninggatan (Queen Street), one of the city's major pedestrian streets, just before 15:00 local time (14:00 GMT).
Witnesses told local media they saw a truck driving into a department store window, and they have seen people on the ground.
"There is total confusion, I do not know how many are injured, many people are totally shocked," one witness, Leif Arnmar, who was working in the department store, told Swedish national broadcaster SVT.
There are also reports of a separate shooting incident in a second location about 20 minutes from the pedestrian shopping street where the crash took place.
Today. Then we get this horrible news of
This latest attack.
I also was just thinking yesterday about insisting that tech companies be made liable for mobile phone use in a moving car travelling above a certain speed, whether it be via text or actual calls not put into a blue tooth or hands free device. There is definitely a way with GPS to know if the phone is in a vehicle moving above a certain safe speed and activating a disabler.
Just some thoughts, given this kind of nonsense is likely going to continue (arguably we are only at the early stages of these kinds of attacks, which will escalate).
Interesting thoughts on mobile phone use, would love to see that implemented. I think it's a bigger problem than many realise.
Perhaps we should ban cars completely? Perhaps underground trains should also be banned ? Perhaps public gatherings of 20 or more should be banned as they provide a target? Perhaps live gigs should be banned? Perhaps offensive cartoon should be banned? etc etc This is exactly the route that terrorists want us to go down down.
Is it only a proper terrorist attack when it's against America and Western Europe? Or is it that the Russians are perceived as 'dodgy' so it's not such a big deal?
It would be interesting to have a handy map of countries we should show sympathy for, those we are ambivalent about and those we genuinely don't care about at all.
But @TheWizardOfIce makes a good point for sure.