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Very true, understandable also really. Especially with how it was being reported and the speed with which the area was locked down too!
funny video about the sickness called NRA
There's a first time for everything then. In America this man would have been shot by police despite the police now finding that it was an accident.
This is why I'm glad the police don't carry weapons in the uk. American police are so trigger happy that if this had happened in the us he would be dead and his family would needlessly be mourning the murder of their father/brother/son
It's a shame some passing member of the public with no understanding of the facts didn't pull out a gun and empty his clip into the driver to 'protect' everyone. Oh wait.
Just out of interest if I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Earlier you said it would be better if all people carried weapons.
Are you now admitting the flaw in the mass proliferation of weapons. That man who we now know lost control of his vehicle would have been murdered by some gun toting policeman and or untrained member of the public taking the law into their own hands. Do you now see why things are better in the UK
You know people who own guns, but you don't know people who use them for bad things. That in itself is commendeable, but that's not the point at all.
You are telling us 'you can't stop bad people from doing bad things'. So gun control won't help. Well factually, it will. That's the whole thing about 'control'. It may seenm strange to you, but I can own a gun in my country. I am allowed to own one after I can show I live a stable life and are mentally sane. At the same time you don't want this, because..... there are bad people. Well, gun control is aimed at stopping instable, 'bad' people from buying one. You say it doesn't work, the fact is, and this is just the worldwide numbers, it does. Yes, the USA is one of the biggest countries in the world, but there are two bigger. Let's take India. It's got far more poor people (one of the main reasons people end up in crime), has 4 times more people then the US and has strict gun laws, concluding in that you are 12 times more likely to get killed in the USA by gun then in India.
http://www.firstpost.com/world/americans-12-times-vulnerable-to-gun-violence-than-indians-up-bihar-lead-in-illegal-arms-report-2834730.html
So let's round this up in simple words. Because you are well trained and experienced in handling guns, you want your 13 y/o neighbour to be able to buy a gun when he's mad at his little brother.
You want no checks on gun control (even though you'd pass them with flying colours) to protect your rights so a drug addict in a subburp can obtain a gun in a shop without problems.
You think little old ladies should be able to protect themselves and that's why a mentally unstable father should be able to buy an assault rifle without any further checks.
The thing is, with a gun in your hand you can basically revoke everyone's rights with the pull of a trigger. And that's why everyone should have them.
You wanted examples of situations where armed bystanders were not able to stop gun crimes. Well, here's the numbers for Arizona, a state where virtually anyone has a gun: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/fact-check/2014/05/28/arizona-gallego-gun-violence/9679961/
The reason armed police in the US approach a car they pulled over with drawn guns is not because they look cool, but it's because they know there are that many guns around. Here in my country they seldomly have to pull their gun, as it isn't that easy for criminals to get a gun in the first place. So every shooting of an unarmed person by police is a direct result of the lenient gun laws.
Anyway, this Australian says it best:
Jim Jefferies knows what he's talking about! I always look forward to his stand up.
@TheWizard is British and is being sarcastic but sadly I'm sure there are genuinely are people who think the world would be better off if we all carried guns. After all we've already heard about someone's co-worker in this thread who has 50 (!) guns in his house.
True so many televised footage of policemen using excessive force show that the involved policemen are poorly trained or just not up for being a decent copper. Police departments should not protect them but actually fire them because they do the decent and well trained of behaved policemen a disservice.
In the early 1980's a gang of robbers attacked several supermarkets brutally killing a total of 28 innocent civilians.
The murderers were never found and the investigation has been troubled from the very beginning.
But now it appears someone confessed about his involvement on his death bed. Victims, investigators and basically the whole country are hoping this confession can be a breakthrough in the investigation.
Read the full story here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-killers/crazy-killer-confession-may-end-30-year-old-belgian-mystery-idUSKBN1CS2JE
Well my great aunt shot two guys who robbed her at gun point in Texas so...She was 80.
https://theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/26/las-vegas-shooting-conspiracy-theories-social-media
I'm ashamed of being from the same species as those smegheads.
this sounds highly suspect being able to shoot two guys while being robbed at gunpoint. We's better send 007 to take some lessons from this feisty old lady. ;)
I am worried. Because as of now the Catalans will form a 'living wall' or 'living chain' around the Catalan Parliament. To protect the Catalan Prime Minister Puigdemont and his democratically elected government. Turning this into a potential feeding ground for violence in the coming days.
Let's pray for peace, pragmatism and plain common sense.
I'm against any and all forms of gun control!
Why am I not surprised...
Same here!
I'm sure tooled up 80 year olds always come off better when faced with a gang of thugs so in light of this revelation I'm all in favour of relaxing gun control in the UK. But only for OAPs.
You could pick up your armalite along with your bus pass?
The Spanish State Mafia just won t let go. Psychos.
Would you care to share with us the source for this rather speculative statement that just conveniently happens to prove your point?
google is your friend. Chicago had strict gun laws, but doesn't anymore. In 2010 they started to dismantle the once strict laws. Now it's a gun-for-everybody city, @CASINOROYALE paradise for gun toting grannies.
The states with the most strict gun laws have the lowes deaths per 100.000 citizens. How odd......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_rates_in_the_United_States_by_state
You have to hand it to those Alaskans though, there's hardly a living soul in their surroundings and still they manage to kill eachother. It's the 'Hunger Games' in real life!
Well I did a quick Google of most dangerous cities in America but Chicago didn't feature.
I guess the most up to date stats from octogenarian rampages are yet to filter through.