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  • patbpatb
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    Low key media coverage on this in the UK, we are becoming used to these attacks, the danger is , they will have to "up their game" now if they want to make the front page.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    Thoughts to all those affected by yesterday's events in New York.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Paul Manafort used "bond007" as his password. :))
    http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-used-bond007-as-his-password-experts-say-2017-10
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,722
    Shooting in Texas, unconfirmed reports of at least 10 people killed.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41880511
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,328
    Another mass shooting which isn't caused by readily availeable guns. I wonder why the congegation didn't fire back? That church ought to've been packed with guns.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Shooting in Texas, unconfirmed reports of at least 10 people killed.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41880511

    Texas governor Greg Abbott said: "Our prayers are with all who were harmed by this evil act.'

    Phew. At least he's come up with a sensible workable solution.

    Given banning guns is too wacky a notion here's an idea for the religious loons: why not pray now in advance of the next attack that it doesn't happen again rather than waiting till people are dead?

    Or how about praying that God raises them from the dead instead of just general prayer? Why should Lazarus be the only one who gets such privileges?
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    I pray that someone can push some sense into americans, their relation with guns and gun laws....
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited November 2017 Posts: 19,339
    Guns again....in a church on Sunday ffs !!
    Havent got time to comment now but will change the heading.

    AMERICA CHANGE YOUR GUN LAWS AND SORT YOUR SHIT OUT !!!!
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,722
    Texas police commissioner confirms at least 27 people killed in the church shooting.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Well this place is an hour and a half away from where I live. I know people who live in the community. Very small town. I have passed by it. The church actually posts videos on their YouTube page of their services. Sad to think many of the people in their videos are now dead. A lot of kids under the age of 5... People are claiming a man entered wearing full body armor and had an asenal of weapons. The town has a population of around 650-670..

    I heard some people say a church goer chased the shooter down in a car and killed him but also hearing a cop killed him. Maybe it was an off duty cop? No idea.. Pretty crazy and weird to think this would happen in an extremely small town.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Well this place is an hour and a half away from where I live. I know people who live in the community. Very small town. I have passed by it. The church actually posts videos on their YouTube page of their services. Sad to think many of the people in their videos are now dead. A lot of kids under the age of 5... People are claiming a man entered wearing full body armor and had an asenal of weapons. The town has a population of around 650-670..

    I heard some people say a church goer chased the shooter down in a car and killed him but also hearing a cop killed him. Maybe it was an off duty cop? No idea.. Pretty crazy and weird to think this would happen in an extremely small town.

    If only there was an octogenarian in the congregation packing a gattling gun this could do easily have been avoided hmm?

    What we need in public places is someone handing out guns as you go in just so everyone is tooled up so they can protect themselves properly.

    It's just common sense.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited November 2017 Posts: 1,003
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Well this place is an hour and a half away from where I live. I know people who live in the community. Very small town. I have passed by it. The church actually posts videos on their YouTube page of their services. Sad to think many of the people in their videos are now dead. A lot of kids under the age of 5... People are claiming a man entered wearing full body armor and had an asenal of weapons. The town has a population of around 650-670..

    I heard some people say a church goer chased the shooter down in a car and killed him but also hearing a cop killed him. Maybe it was an off duty cop? No idea.. Pretty crazy and weird to think this would happen in an extremely small town.

    If only there was an octogenarian in the congregation packing a gattling gun this could do easily have been avoided hmm?

    What we need in public places is someone handing out guns as you go in just so everyone is tooled up so they can protect themselves properly.

    It's just common sense.

    Well a church goer killed him before he could kill more.. I don’t think they even have their own police in the town.
    Closet town is eleven minutes away though.

  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    UPDATE: They are now saying suspect might’ve been an illegal Mexican who converted to Islam.. No idea if it’s true.
    San Antonio does have a lot of illegals. The entire town is basically Mexico. Wouldn’t be surprised. Although the Islam part is fishy!

  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    UPDATE: They are now saying suspect might’ve been an illegal Mexican who converted to Islam.. No idea if it’s true.
    San Antonio does have a lot of illegals. The entire town is basically Mexico. Wouldn’t be surprised. Although the Islam part is fishy!

    UPDATE: They are now saying suspect might’ve been an illegal Mexican who converted to Islam and voted democratic and was in favor of guncontrol and better checks in hotels because they can kill.. No idea if it’s true. ;)
  • jobojobo
    edited November 2017 Posts: 7,507
    SaintMark wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    UPDATE: They are now saying suspect might’ve been an illegal Mexican who converted to Islam.. No idea if it’s true.
    San Antonio does have a lot of illegals. The entire town is basically Mexico. Wouldn’t be surprised. Although the Islam part is fishy!

    UPDATE: They are now saying suspect might’ve been an illegal Mexican who converted to Islam and voted democratic and was in favor of guncontrol and better checks in hotels because they can kill.. No idea if it’s true. ;)

    :)) :))

    Don't forget that he was an environmentalist and read the Washington Post
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited November 2017 Posts: 1,003
    Ahhh non USA citizens talking about things they know nothing about ;)

    Thank god to the local guy who killed him!! Yep a gun owner shot him during the shooting , chased him down and killed him.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,017
    Only after he killed more than 20 people.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    edited November 2017 Posts: 2,722
    Yep, if there's one lesson to take from today - thank goodness for guns, eh?

    Did we find out whether that claim he was an illegal Mexican immigrant converted to Islam was accurate?
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    Yep, if there's one lesson to take from today - thank goodness for guns, eh?

    Did we find out whether that claim he was an illegal Mexican immigrant converted to Islam was accurate?

    yes, its bullshit as usual. But it is quite certain that this loony got his paws quite easily on guns and whatnot.

    Up to the next shooting.
  • jobojobo
    edited November 2017 Posts: 7,507
    It is worse than that. He is apparently a former member of the US Air Force. Poor Fox News! How to spin this now?
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited November 2017 Posts: 12,837
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Ahhh non USA citizens talking about things they know nothing about ;)

    Because as outsiders we can see how batshit insane your country's stance on guns actually is. The rest of the world would be laughing at you if so many of you weren't dying because of it.

    Defend your country's ridiculous stance on gun control all you want but don't expect those of us who live in the civilised world to understand or respect your opinion.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited November 2017 Posts: 9,117
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Ahhh non USA citizens talking about things they know nothing about ;)

    Because as outsiders we can see how batshit insane your country's stance on guns actually is. The rest of the world would be laughing at you if so many of you weren't dying because of it.

    Defend your country's ridiculous stance on gun control all you want but don't expect those of us who live in the civilised world to understand or respect your opinion.

    You've just made a mug of yourself there mate:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/this-isnt-a-guns-situation-says-trump-after-texas-church-shooting

    POTUS has spoken: 'Nothing to do with guns.' So you see we're all idiots for even thinking there's a connection.

    There's a simple checklist for these things to help you realise if there's a problem or not:

    If the perpetrator is white it's the act of a lone nutter and there's nothing anyone could do to stop it so no need to change the law or crack down on fundamentalist Christians or anything like that.

    If the perpetrator is brown then it's an act of terror and knee jerk laws need to be brought in such as draconian immigration policies and concrete bollards on every street corner.

    (Interesting to note that the installation of said bollards everywhere but not bulletproof glass or free bullet proof vests seems to suggest that they think cars are a bigger threat than guns yet do the math(s) more dead every year from guns than 9/11)
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Ahhh non USA citizens talking about things they know nothing about ;)

    Because as outsiders we can see how batshit insane your country's stance on guns actually is. The rest of the world would be laughing at you if so many of you weren't dying because of it.

    Defend your country's ridiculous stance on gun control all you want but don't expect those of us who live in the civilised world to understand or respect your opinion.

    You've just made a mug of yourself there mate:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/this-isnt-a-guns-situation-says-trump-after-texas-church-shooting

    POTUS has has spoken: 'Nothing to do with guns.' So you see we're all idiots for even thinking there's a connection.

    There's a simple checklist for these things to help you realise if there's a problem or not:

    If the perpetrator is white it's the act of a lone nutter and there's nothing anyone could do to stop it so no need to change the law or crack down on fundamentalist Christians or anything like that.

    If the perpetrator is brown then it's an act of terror and knee jerk laws need to be brought in such as draconian immigration policies and concrete bollards on every street corner.

    (Interesting to note that the installation of said bollards everywhere but not bulletproof glass or free bullet proof vests seems to suggest that they think cars are a bigger threat than guns yet do the math(s) more dead every year from guns than 9/11)


    Yes. The fact that gun related violence is ridiculously much more common in the US than in any other ''sivilized" country, has obviously nothing to do with gun laws. So there is only one logic sollution left: Americans are simply more crazy and mentally unstable than the rest of us! I don't know who is to blame... but it's probably Obama
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    Don't get me wrong here as I like America a lot. But? When I see the constant Presidents lay down the law around the world with regards to weapons of any nature? I find it beggars belief they flatly refuse to sort out the gun laws and ownership at home.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,823
    I'm about to go to work now, by the time I come home I suppose I can expect to read about another shooting. But thank God nunchucks are illegal...
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
    Posts: 1,812
    So once again this isn't the time to talk about gun policies and it wasn't the guns fault, only the shooter? I guess I'll see you guys in this thread in a few weeks when another mass shooting happens... that is if I'm not one of the victims.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,328
    jobo wrote: »
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    thelivingroyale wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Ahhh non USA citizens talking about things they know nothing about ;)

    Because as outsiders we can see how batshit insane your country's stance on guns actually is. The rest of the world would be laughing at you if so many of you weren't dying because of it.

    Defend your country's ridiculous stance on gun control all you want but don't expect those of us who live in the civilised world to understand or respect your opinion.

    You've just made a mug of yourself there mate:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/this-isnt-a-guns-situation-says-trump-after-texas-church-shooting

    POTUS has has spoken: 'Nothing to do with guns.' So you see we're all idiots for even thinking there's a connection.

    There's a simple checklist for these things to help you realise if there's a problem or not:

    If the perpetrator is white it's the act of a lone nutter and there's nothing anyone could do to stop it so no need to change the law or crack down on fundamentalist Christians or anything like that.

    If the perpetrator is brown then it's an act of terror and knee jerk laws need to be brought in such as draconian immigration policies and concrete bollards on every street corner.

    (Interesting to note that the installation of said bollards everywhere but not bulletproof glass or free bullet proof vests seems to suggest that they think cars are a bigger threat than guns yet do the math(s) more dead every year from guns than 9/11)


    Yes. The fact that gun related violence is ridiculously much more common in the US than in any other ''sivilized" country, has obviously nothing to do with gun laws. So there is only one logic sollution left: Americans are simply more crazy and mentally unstable than the rest of us! I don't know who is to blame... but it's probably Obama

    Oh don't worry, the rate is also much higher then uncivilized countries. That's the amazing thing about it! Take South Africa, famous for it's car jakings, but with 8.3 deaths per 100.000 people still doing about 20 percent better then the USA. Mexico? Those killers who rape and take over every job in the USA? Nope, still doing better at 7.64. The USA has the lovely rate of 10.54 deaths per 100k. But it must be an American thing, as the top-scoring countries are all South American, except for Swaziland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    But it's good to know that the American gun laws are fine. After 27 deaths and another 20 wounded someone shot back and got the b.......... So well done gun laws! See, if only more people should back faster! 27 dead! Out of a parish of about 50!
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,722
    Texas attorney general Ken Paxton: 'congregations should be armed after church shooting'.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/texas-attorney-general-congregations-should-be-armed-after-church-shooting
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Just so you boys know!

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/texas-church-gunman-devin-patrick-gun-law-felon-domestic-violence-2017-11

    It was illegal for the shooter to even own a gun.. Read this article. So he actually wasn’t even legally allowed to own a gun. He still managed to get one. Ban guns though because that’ll solve the problem. Apparently the media only cares if it’s a white man shooting people up. No need to worry about the 600+ deaths in Chicago currently.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,722
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    It was illegal for the shooter to even own a gun.. Read this article. So he actually wasn’t even legally allowed to own a gun.

    So this shooter did nothing wrong, and assuming he hadn't killed himself/gotten shot by armed police, should just walk away free without any trial or jail time?
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