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Haha. That escaped me ;) Yes, it's a typo... in case that was unclear? ;))
In my defence it's a challenge writing these posts with Norwegian autocorrect...
Hahaha I couldn't resist it ;)
Should the neutrality end, it shouldn’t go into effect immediately?
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Now, regarding my position. Of the candidates who ran in 2016, I was in favour of either Bernie or Donald. I said that on the 2nd post of the old thread. I've explained why several times in the past. My reasons aren't how they are described here. I have never looked at anyone as perfect or a messiah. Such remarks or allusions are entirely incorrect. Trump is facing major resistance designed to discredit him from within the system. It has been happening since before he became president. Bernie would have faced the same thing, and for different reasons. This is not about who is a better person (do you really believe the US govt is run - as opposed to elected - on personalities)? This is about institutional deadlock and corruption. Vested interests only committed to maintaining the current positions. What I see happening now is exactly what I expected. It's predictable. It happened under Obama, under Clinton, under Bush. It just gets a little worse each time.
Regarding 'tax evasion' - I have not defended any evasion whatsoever. I have tried to explain what the one or two pages of the tax return that were leaked were about. I am a CPA (although non practicing) so I know what I'm talking about. The word 'evasion' for that particular matter is entirely inaccurate. It is legitimate tax deductions as used by nearly every business, and most notably by real estate developers. It's well within the law. Don't like it? Change the law. Stop calling that evasion. It's just ignorant.
Regarding alleged 'sexual misconduct' - I have not defended that ever. I have said that it should be litigated in a court of law. Not in the court of public opinion. Everyone should have their turn. Present evidence and make a conclusion. That applies to absolutely every allegation that has been leveled against anyone (politician and others) recently.
Regarding 'grab em by the p###y' - I was with a few friends a few months back for drinks. One made what some may consider lewd remarks (although he was being affectionate as we all thought she was quite attractive) about a waitress who was serving us (after she left the table of course), and I reminded him that this was similar to the Trump comments. He laughed and said he could never run for office, particularly if it was being taped. Boys being boys. He's been happily married for 15 years by the way.
Regarding lies - sorry, they all do it. It's the nature of running for the top job in the US. Nobody would get there without sb/s. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just being naive.
Trump ran as a Republican. It's the only way he could have won. Those hoping for a third party win (which he almost attempted some years back by the way, and which would have better suited his approach) are dreaming if they think it can happen with the institutions and process the US has now. He has a coalition to manage. Some entirely religious, some small govt who hate tax hikes (and cherish tax reductions), some who can't stand ACA (which never received bipartisan Congressional and state support by the way), some who want wars (that's both sides) etc. etc.
So again, he ran as a Republican and now he needs to work with the Republican run House and Senate (people who were elected at state levels). Politics is all about horse trading. You give some and get some. Trump is personally more Democrat than Republican, and people should realize that. He is a New York Republican (sometime Democrat) which is more liberal than many Democrats in other states (but with a national security mindset). He's malleable and not an idealogue (Obama stated that himself). Want the changes you want? Get the congress and senate turned next year. He will work with them. His mindset and demeanour is that of a brash cocky 1980's style Iaccoca CEO (that's his generation) and not politician. He just wants to get things done. The things I know he has genuine passion for are the American worker, trade, infrastructure & national security. He has been talking about that since the 1980s. If he can get something done on those fronts in the next 3 years, and jump start the economy (which is doing much better these days at 3% growth), he will have at least achieved something worthwhile in his time in office. Then someone else can come in and get all the social programs they want. I don't care.
The alternative is to continue with the hate filled divisive personality destruction which occurred from the right under Obama, and from the left under Trump. It actually predated Obama (he came to fame with a big speech denouncing that at the 2004 Democratic Convention). So predictable, and quite boorish.
I will say this one more time. Elections are won on margins. Trump won because certain states switched from Obama to Trump in 2016. Many were the same states where Bernie had strength and support. The reasons were the same. Making comments here that those people (who won him the election) were influenced by Russians, or religion, or guns, or sexism, or stupidity is just plain wrong. I won't stoop to the level of insults as some do, but it's really inaccurate how those voters are being portrayed here.
I've said all I'm going to say on this particular topic, which has hijacked @barryt007's thread, for now. I'm off to focus on movies and Bond. Cheerio.
For crying out loud! I have no idea what kind of friends you have, but if they brag about sexual assault, I would seriously reconsider my frienship with them. The sexism is not what is causing this outrage.The point is that he is admitting to have been practicing sexual assault, in fact he even brags about it! I assume you are able to understand the difference? But this is only one of numerous cases against him...
I agree that it is no point in continuing this discussion. I don't know for which cynical reason you find it worth defending his numerous misdeeds... and I won't bother with it. You can try to push the lie that this is just another normal president, not any worse or more outrageous than the previous ones. History will judge otherwise though...
History will indeed be the judge. On that we agree.
Yep. This is a mess.
This assumes the entire country wants the same thing (this FCC ruling, a Trump presidency, etc.), which is false.
This assumes that a country voted with their eyes open for somebody like Trump and his opinions, I am still not sure why he was a better option than another Clinton. The result of that vote for an egotistical misogynist businessman who only had his own interest at heart. Anything that follows from that vote for something else is the result and cannot be denied as that they did not want that particular bit. A choice for the current republican party is a choice for less freedom of speech unless you agree with them. So no moaning and do not expect this to be altered by any US president in the future, it will not happen.
The majority voted for this president and his cronies and so they rule.
Still isn't the same as assuming 100% of Americans agreed. It's like saying 100% of voters wanted Brexit.
Tough for the ones who did not vote for Trump, too many did hence the voice and the vote of the majority rules. I am sure not 100% voted or agreed but way too many did so the result is the US of Trump who only rules in his own intrest. And his word and his cronies goes. Who had ever expected that a business man obsessed with fake news would keep net neutrality?- That must have come as a big surprise.
Somebody said something far scary this week on the telly. If Trump gets voted out in three years time what if he does not allow that too happen.
If they know what they are doing will eventually be seen for what it is and that they'd be voted out for it, it's only logical to assume full dictatorship of some kind may be on their agenda as well.
Don't be.
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The majority of Americans did not vote for Trump. That has been the issue since Day One.
Yeah. We don’t enjoy true democracy.
Pffft and you said I shouldn’t be embarrassed.
@SaintMark it's easy to laugh at the US, but seeing the corruption in the EU and the way our own politics work (or don't) I think a little humility is in order.
@FoxRox and @TripAces it isn't about who you voted for. It's about the system itself. I think you guys agree with @bondjames on one important thing: the current US system is corrupt and facilitating corruption even further. You may disagree on Trump's sanity, sufficiency or intelligence (or in short, if he's up for the job) but you seem to do agree on the position that the current system with two parties and electoral representatives is not only polarising, but by now it's even allowed to disregard facts. That in itself is the biggest thread.
So if you want to change this you have to look past the political devision, go to the next Dem. or Rep. (depending on your own preferences) and go and sit at the table to devise a system where everybody has a say. The noly problem is, you'll have to get rid of that one underlying American cultural problem: 'the winner takes all' mentality. You HAVE to let everyone have a place under the sun.
If you can't do that you will end in corruption and, worst case, civil war.
@Jobo you are aware The Guardian is a strongly left leaning paper right? ;-)