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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I don t believe in this story for a second.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Couldn t they at least have made an effort?
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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That's from the same funeral bombing in Aleppo back in 2016. Just shows her being handled by three different rescuers/family members (there's even another shot of her alone in the back of an ambulance after these were taken). It's much more obvious once you see the uncropped versions and realize it's all located in the same area, too.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    There are so many of these, check them out yourselves.
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    Things really are spiralling out of control.
  • Posts: 19,339
    From the Guardian,1 hour ago,updated :

    Trump tells Russia: get ready for US missile strikes in Syria

    Donald Trump has warned Russia in an incendiary tweet to “get ready” for US missile strikes in Syria after a UN security council meeting failed to stave off the prospect of military confrontation over the chemical weapons attack outside Damascus at the weekend.

    “Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria,” the US president tweeted. “Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!”


    Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 11, 2018


    The Kremlin has warned the US and its allies that a military strike against Syria could lead to further instability in the region.
    Russia and the western allies were unable to compromise on a concerted international response to the use of chemical weapons at the UN on Tuesday evening.

    The US, UK and France continue to make preparations for military action intended to punish the regime of Bashar al-Assad, which they say is responsible for the latest chemical weapons attack, on the Damascus suburb of Douma on 7 April, which killed more than 45 people.

    On Wednesday the Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov urged restraint. “With regards to what could happen in the case of any kind of strike, we still want to hope that all sides will avoid these kinds of steps, which first have not been provoked by anything real, and second which could appreciably destabilise an already fragile situation in the region,” he said.
    Russia previously said there was no evidence of a chemical attack in Douma, let alone Syrian government involvement.

    Peskov sidestepped questions about Russia’s concrete reaction to the expected strike on Syria, saying Russia’s official position had already been put forth by its ambassador the UN, Vasily Nebenzia. Russian military officials have said they will shoot down any US missiles and counterattack against launching platforms if they are seen as a threat to Russian service personnel in Syria.
    Earlier on Wednesday, a Moscow envoy to Lebanon told local media that the Russian military would shoot down missiles if they threatened Syria, and that their launch sites would be targeted, a step that could trigger a major escalation.

    “The situation is tense,” Peskov said, adding that Russia was calling for an “unprejudiced and objective investigation before making judgments” on the suspected use of chemical weapons.
    Peskov said the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, did not have plans to speak with leaders from the US, France or UK.

    At the UN on Tuesday, Russia and western allies voted against each other’s proposals for setting up a body dedicated to investigating repeated poison gas use in Syria. The US delegation said it had done everything possible to accommodate Russian views and that the abortive council session marked a “decisive moment”. Russia said the issue was being used by the US and its allies as a pretext to attack Syria.
    Trump, Emmanuel Macron and Theresa May held phone consultations on Tuesday. Macron told reporters in Paris later that a decision would be made in the coming days following “exchanges of technical and strategic information with our partners, in particular Britain and America”. He said that if airstrikes went ahead, they would target Syrian government chemical facilities.

    Macron made the remarks at a Paris press conference alongside the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, who offered his country’s support for US-led military action. “If our alliance with our partners requires it, we will be present,” the Saudi leader said, wrapping up a three-day visit to Paris.
    The rising tensions and the risk of a clash between the major powers were evident in the eastern Mediterranean, where Russian warplanes overflew US and French naval vessels armed with cruise missiles.

    Inspectors from the watchdog the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) were planning to travel to Syria after receiving an invitation from the Assad regime, but it was unclear whether they would be allowed to reach Douma, and whether their presence there would delay US-led military action.



  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Trump, who always says he won't announce military action, announces military action.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Exactly the same scenario as a few years ago. Syrian forces are winning big time over those jihadis, and hey presto! Suddenly Assad feels an urge to gas his own people and infuriate the world community.Makes zero sense. Assad even invited the OPCW, but we can t risk that again now, can we? The western leaders can t possibly believe this rubbish. It is indeed just a pretext for getting rid of him, and the motives are not what they tell you.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Trump, who always says he won't announce military action, announces military action.

    That's because Trump is a senile fool.
    But hey, the "change" he was going to bring to America was praised by many, including several here, some not even residing in America.
  • DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Trump, who always says he won't announce military action, announces military action.

    That's because Trump is a senile fool.
    But hey, the "change" he was going to bring to America was praised by many, including several here, some not even residing in America.

    Trump is a senile fool who from all indications really really enjoys his position in Putin's hip pocket. This "announcement" is just his way of asking for approval.
  • edited April 2018 Posts: 3,566
    Unnecessary post duplication, deleted. Nothing to see here, Fake News, move on...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    A month ago. Not reported here, of course.
    https://www.rt.com/news/420948-ghouta-false-flag-chemical-attack/
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    It shocks me anytime Trump speaks negatively of Putin. It's so out of character for him.

    Yeah... must be those rebellious teen years coming on...
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    From Sky News ,7 minutes ago :

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    Independent chemical weapons scientists have confirmed that novichok was used in the attempted murder of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia.

    More to come....
  • Posts: 12,837
    The bit I can't get over is that he "warned Russia in an incendiary tweet". I mean don't get me wrong I love how technology has come on in my lifetime but that's actually the world we're living in now, twitter is a platform for this stuff.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    If they can analyze the stuff and name it, it means they can also make it.
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    trump and Putin. Both power mad nut jobs!
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    If they can analyze the stuff and name it, it means they can also make it.

    Yes, the British did it of course. Can't believe the Kremlin has the cheek to say that. Hopefully Trump and his allies will give that cheek a much needed slap soon.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    If they can analyze the stuff and name it, it means they can also make it.

    Yes, the British did it of course. Can't believe the Kremlin has the cheek to say that. Hopefully Trump and his allies will give that cheek a much needed slap soon.

    They will retaliate.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    If they can analyze the stuff and name it, it means they can also make it.
    Not that I buy into most of your conspiracy theories and no doubt Russia did it but just because these scientists have said it's Novichok does that mean it can only be Russia? They are the only people in the world who could possibly make it are they?


    Regarding the military action can someone explain what it is we're going to do exactly? Just bomb a few airfields and say 'Let that be a lesson to you for gassing people'? Haven't we already done that?

    Either we go in properly and take Assad out or we sit by and wait for the next atrocity. Fine to take the moral high ground and say we are stopping him committing atrocities on his own people but it doesn't feel that high if we just give him a small slap and then let him carry on as before until the next atrocity that is too much for our western stomachs.

    Personally I'd rather we stopped antagonising Russia and bollocks to Syria.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Trump has already mentioned that he'll call Russia ahead of time to let Putin know which area(s) he plans on hitting in Syria. What an absolute laughable joke of a President this guy is.

    Let's them move anything of importance out of the way, and just like last time, they'll bomb nothing of significance, and it'll be back to working order the following day, much like the airfield Trump hit in his first couple of months.
  • edited April 2018 Posts: 3,566
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    If they can analyze the stuff and name it, it means they can also make it.

    Yes, the British did it of course. Can't believe the Kremlin has the cheek to say that. Hopefully Trump and his allies will give that cheek a much needed slap soon.

    Where's that darned laughing icon when I need it? Oh, Draggers, Surely you can't be serious. Trump is never going to disobey his master in such a serious fashion...
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    If they can analyze the stuff and name it, it means they can also make it.

    Yes, the British did it of course. Can't believe the Kremlin has the cheek to say that. Hopefully Trump and his allies will give that cheek a much needed slap soon.

    They will retaliate.

    That is usually what happens when you attack. It's not a good enough reason for holding back though. Russia has become far too bold and needs a dressing down.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    For what again?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    For what again?

    Russia is responsible for myriad things. They've been provoking an attack for quite some time. They annexed Crimea, the first country to annex another in Europe since 1945, regularly fly into UK airspace, have murdered and attempted to murder ex-intelligence agents and back up the Assad regime in Syria which is busy killing its own citizens. Is that enough for starters?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    For dissing Never Send Flowers of course.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    royale65 wrote: »
    For dissing Never Send Flowers of course.

    That I can believe. The other stuff is mostly bogus, which you will know if you pay some attention.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    royale65 wrote: »
    For dissing Never Send Flowers of course.

    I don't recall Putin or Russia ever doing that. @TheWizardOfIce on the other hand...
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    So Wiz is Putin?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited April 2018 Posts: 18,341
    royale65 wrote: »
    So Wiz is Putin?

    No, @Thunderfinger is Putin as far as I can tell. He even had Putin in his avatar for ages. That was a big giveaway.
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