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It was Boris and the ERG extremists who blocked May's attempt to leave the EU. We'd have left by now if it wasn't for that bunch of delusional lunatics. I suspect that there is a part of them that actually would prefer to remain in our current state of indefinite limbo just so they can continue to blame everything on the EU forever.
Yes, although a good few of the ERG members (including its chairman Jacob Rees-Mogg MP) and Johnson himself voted for May's Withdrawal Agreement on the third vote and it still didn't have the requisite numbers to get through the House of Commons. So the blame clearly lies elsewhere too, namely the Labour Party MPs who voted against May's deal.
It's just sickening; it really is. I'm sorry for all of my UK friends.
I'm not sure how being on the winning side in the 2016 EU referendum would have ended his career exactly? And don't forget that it was Theresa May who was initially rewarded as she was coronated as prime minister (after Andrea Leadsom was forced to pull out) even though she never voted for Brexit in the first place! Well, we all know how successful that premiership turned out to be in terms of delivering Brexit...
They won the referendum yes, and as a result GB is in turmoil. Johnson was exposed lying and misleading the country on the supposed "benifits" of leaving the EU. If there was any justice he would be dropped from the parliament. Instead he is now Prime Minister...
Johnson is a lying, cheating sleaze. He is not a committed Europhobe. He just jumped on the bandwagon to further his own career. Deeply cynical and self-serving man only interested in his own vanity and next lay. But as we know from the US, Italy and elsewhere that's what's cool right now.
He spotted his route to power and probably surmised that in a stable and united country he'd never stand a chance so he took the cynical self interested route and hey presto he is in No.10. Will go down in history as a bad TV comic who somehow became PM and trashed the country. We're no better than Ukraine or Italy right now.
A general election or new referendum may not resolve the issue. There's no guarantee a GE will result in one party having a majority. If there's no majority for 'leave' in Parliament we're back to the previous paragraph - square one!
Two possible alternatives not mentioned by politicians or the media:
1) The government invoke an emergency act of Parliament 'forcing' through the necessary Brexit legislation. I don't mean an alternative to the 'deal' I mean an existing act of Parliament which allows the incumbent government the right to implement Brexit as a matter of national emergency. Parliament is incapable of delivering Brexit so there is "an emergency" - the referendum result is not respected nor implemented. Failure to deliver Brexit is a constitutional emergency which could be covered under The Emergency Powers Act 1964. Trump used a similar type of US law to force through his election pledge to build the southern wall (although other US states did challenge the decision through the courts - which has now got approval from the US Supreme Court ).
2) Another alternative is Johnson and his government (perhaps with the support of The Brexit Party) mount a legal challenge to deliver Brexit. If Parliament refuse a no deal Brexit on Oct 31st then take Parliament to court via the Supreme Court. Let the Supreme Court decide if Parliament has denied the will of the people. The judiciary is meant to be impartial and independent of so any ruling should not be biased remain or leave. I'm very surprised the likes of Nigel Farage haven't suggested taking Parliament to court if they prevent Brexit.
Be you remain or leave, the referendum result was to leave. The UK cannot be a functioning, fair democracy if Parliament can stop the UK leaving the EU. And if Brexit is a disaster and the economy tanks, I'm sure a future government will grant another referendum (lol!) and we can all vote to rejoin the EU! Yes, we can reverse the whole thing but we need to leave first!
You're forgetting Northern Ireland, which will also leave.
The whole Scottish angle for this makes me laugh! The SNP don't want to be a part of the UK. They want FULL independence to be able to join the European Union and be ruled from Brussels instead. Go figure?!!!! 8-}
I thought brexit might help the eu become more transparent and go for the much-needed democratic reforms. Instead it has helped the 'unionists' of the eu gain momentum and at the same time throw Britain into chaos.
Mind you, considering the generations that now form a majority, I'm not sure the word 'cool' is the right one. 'reactionary' seems more in place. A generation set on destroying what they helped built themselves
There is nothing nonsensical about that.
How do you mean?
He doesn't seem to be familiar with what a paradox is.
ok :))
Being under rule of GB and being part of a union consisting of independent countries are obviously two completely different things! And no sane person would blame them from wanting to leave the train wreck that is GB at this point...
The thing is would they still use the pound as their currency? Would the UK Treasury in fact even allow this? Or would they have to join the failing Euro project? Another paradox right there. The mind boggles.
I suppose it might be you who don´t understand what a paradox is? We could surely discuss until death wether it would be benificial or not for Scottland to gain independence from GB. But that is not up to us to decide. There is however no paradox there at all if Scottland wants to gain independence and at the same time be a part of the EU.
I may not understand what a paradox is (that's surely debatable) but I do at least know how to spell 'Scotland' and various other words. It kind of undermines your point, that, and your credibility. Be very careful of throwing stones in glass houses, my friend.
It doesn't matter those that voted Brexit will say there is nothing to worry about here at all, after all people are sick to death of experts telling what is what.
True. Brexit is like a religious cult. You must believe in what the runes tell you or you're a disbeliever.
The country has gone mad, taken over but a bunch of dim witted hucksters.
This isn't what's supposed to happen in the UK. Parliamentary democracy is supposed to prevent exactly this kind of extremist lunacy. I blame that Etonian plonker Cameron and his school chum/rival, Boris. Vile people.
Maybe a shortterm outlook isn't always for the best. We didn't just take this decision for ourselves, but generations hence. We may have to endure hardships, but if we come out the other end stronger as a result, then its worth it.