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Bond had his work cut out to beat this lot in LTK.
I struggle frankly to see any way in which TLD could be seriously described as 'gritty' as well. Certainly Dalton gives it a more 'serious' spin, but I've always been of the view that people exaggerate the comic aspects of Moore's performance - he still played it straight 95% of the time.
I also found LTK hard to stomach the first time I saw it. I thought they'd really gone off the rails. However my views have changed. It's not a classic and I probably wouldn't put it in my top 10, but it's definitely grown on me. Even Pam, who I used to think was awful.
When you take a step back, LTK is still actually a classic formula Bond film underneath - all the elements are there, just with a slightly odd overlay of 80s narco crime. It even has an exploding baddy base.
The fact the action scenes and stunts have been copied and riffed off several times since by major Hollywood blockbusters is testament to how good the action and stunt work is on LTK as well.
Like I said, it's not a personal favourite, but I do now enjoy it.
Frankly all the 80s films are pretty watchable IMO. Some are distinctly better than others but that's fine.
My problems with LTK are mainly in the cheesy opening 30 minutes (with bland direction), Pam Bouvier (I accept Talisa's limited acting abilities) and the schmaltzy ending.
I think the fire truck chase was dated from the moment it hit the cinema in 1985 !!
And don't get me started on that bloody winking fish in LTK or Felix being happy as Larry even though he lost a limb and his wife was raped and murdered !
If these are your only issues with the film it sounds like you actually quite like it.
THAT I must agree,gets on my wick as well.
But at least in LTK he doesn't look like a lovesick puppy,staring at the brainless Kara.
None of it works with those two...that's why TLD is rooted to the bottom spot at #24 on my list,controversial though that may be for some.
I do actually like the movie. For a long time it was a top 5 film.
Kara and Bond's chemistry isn't nearly as terrible as Pam/Lupe's in LTK. That film has the weakest Bond girls of all time; acting and character-wise. LTK will never breach the bottom five JB films.
I consider that line delivery far worse than "I love James...so much".
Genuinely speaking I'd say both Dalton films are better than AVTAK, but not as accessible or re-watchable as FYEO or OP.
Precisely.
Although I can understand why some might not like it.
Hmm. There is a lot of very wooden acting in the Bond films, especially from the Bond girls. I'm not sure I'd put Pam and Lupe bottom, but you could definitely make this case.
The 80's has FYEO, OP, TLD and LTK and all of them are in my Top 10. So there you go.
The 60's have DN GF OHMSS that are in my Top 10 but there is no doubt that the 60s is the best Bond decade.
The 70s has DAF, LALD, TSWLM and MR. While only TSWLM is in my Top 10 I love DAF and MR and LALD and they are in 14th, 15th and 16th place in my ranking.
The 90's are only lower than the 70s because it's "only" two films for me. GE and TND are both in my Top 10 but I have TWINE on No 23.
The 00's have DAD and CR which I would choose overall to SF and SP even if I LOVE SP.
So that's my reasoning.
Gotcha. Using that method I'd get:
60s
80s
90s
70s
00s*
10s*
*interchangeable
Kara is certainly not my favourite Bond girl but I still find her more interesting than most of the other Bond girls who usually do not really add anything to the plot and are just there to look pretty.
And as has been said before, none of the romances in the franchise have been so very realistic. Even in CR and OHMSS, the romances come out of nowhere. And some of the romantic dialouge especially in CR ("little finger") is awfull, too.
I have watched most of the Bond films with my girl friend this year. And she really liked the relationship between Bond and Kara and said it was the most realistic one so far. On the contrary, - even though she enjoyed CR overall - she did not really buy the romantic stuff in CR and said that there is no chemistry between Bond and Vesper and that the romance between the two was forced.
Kara and Bond is among my favourite romances in the series since 1987.
Rivalled only by Natalya and Bond in GE.
Karas relationship with Bond was a lot more involving.You felt Bond really cares about her and there was a vulnerability in their relationship not seen before.....or since.
I love Natalya but i cringe when i think of that beach scene. Chocolate box visuals and awful dialogue!
I like that cheesy bit in GE at the beach. It's so perfectly 90s.
What I mean is believability of romance. There GE rivals TLD to be the best romance since 1987. Imho.