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Simple random film questions: Have you ever demanded your money back in the theatre and why?

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  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Come to think of It, I never really got into the fourth one. Perhaps because Every time I've tried to watch It, it's been on a channel butchered with commercials
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Next question: Which remake/reboot is better than the original in your opinion?
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Two come immediately to mind: Cronenberg's The Fly and Carpenter's The Thing (though it's debatable whether it should technically be considered a remake).

    I'm also much more partial to Werner Herzog's Nosferatu than the original.

    The Departed might fit here too, though Infernal Affairs was quite a strong film already.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited May 2017 Posts: 24,266
    I can think of a few:

    - William Wyler's BEN-HUR
    - John Carpenter's THE THING
    - Steven Soderbergh's OCEAN'S ELEVEN
    - Michael Mann's HEAT
    - Philip Kaufman's INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS
    - Hitchcock's second version of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH
    - John Huston's THE MALTESE FALCON
    - Gore Verbinski's THE RING
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Two come immediately to mind: Cronenberg's The Fly and Carpenter's The Thing (though it's debatable whether it should technically be considered a remake).

    I'm also much more partial to Werner Herzog's Nosferatu than the original.

    The Departed might fit here too, though Infernal Affairs was quite a strong film already.

    Interesting, @Some_Kind_Of_Hero!
    I must say THE FLY is a tough one. There are actually days when I prefer the Kurt Neumann film. NOSFERATU is a good choice and one I hadn't thought about myself.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    I had no idea Heat was a remake! What was the original?

    Ben-Hur is a very good choice, quite a masterpiece there.

    I like Kaufman's Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but the 50s version will always be my favorite.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited May 2017 Posts: 24,266
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Two come immediately to mind: Cronenberg's The Fly and Carpenter's The Thing (though it's debatable whether it should technically be considered a remake).

    I'm also much more partial to Werner Herzog's Nosferatu than the original.

    The Departed might fit here too, though Infernal Affairs was quite a strong film already.

    Interesting, @Some_Kind_Of_Hero!
    I must say THE FLY is a tough one. There are actually days when I prefer the Kurt Neumann film.
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    I had no idea Heat was a remake! What was the original?

    Ben-Hur is a very good choice, quite a masterpiece there.

    I like Kaufman's Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but the 50s version will always be my favorite.

    HEAT is Mann's remake of his own made-for-television L.A. TAKEDOWN. That one was supposed to be the pilot of a new show but that show never got made. Then Mann remade the film. Certain moments in both films are very similar.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Wow, cool, I'll have to check that out at some point.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Friday The 13th (1980) vs Friday The 13th (2009)
    Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931) vs Edge Of Sanity (1989)*
    Gloria (1980) vs Gloria (1999)

    There have been more remakes that I have enjoyed, but I need to see the originals to compare.

    *Though there are earlier adaptions, the '31 version is the earliest I have seen.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    Friday The 13th (1980) vs Friday The 13th (2009)

    Must check this out at some point. I've heard it's worth the watch.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    Friday The 13th (1980) vs Friday The 13th (2009)

    Must check this out at some point. I've heard it's worth the watch.

    Opinion is split, but it is one of my favourites of the F13 films. Almost 10 years on, and I still don't see how it failed to relaunch the series.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    This is where @MajorDSmythe and myself disagree, @Some_Kind_Of_Hero. ;-)

    The first FRIDAY THE 13TH is a tense thriller with a slow build-up but a great climax. It allows us to get to know the campers, it breathes and then it hits hard. It provides a lot of eerie POV shots and genuine slasher elements. Granted, there's no Jason. Well, technically there's no Jason. There was never a Jason movie planned. It was going to be just the one FRIDAY THE 13TH - period.

    Then the sequels came down like rain and eventually a remake was inevitable. Well, in said remake, we're getting a lot of good stuff, I will concede that much, but also some things I'm annoyed with. For instance, the film's biggest mistake, IMO, is that we bring in two batches of meet. Failing to give us an interesting story with only one set of teens, the remake needed two of those in order to keep things exciting for an hour and a half. So in a way, you have a 20 minute prologue and about an hour left when the real 'story' kicks in. I have never, neither upon first nor tenth viewing, experienced any tension I must say. Gory deaths? Sure, lots of them. Lots of boobs too. The formula is present! But it's just that IMO. The formula.

    And of course here too the Major and I disagree, but IMO, FREDDY VS JASON did things so much better, getting the best of the Freddy and Jason world mixed up--a little bit more Freddy than Jason perhaps, but still--doing something original with it and providing interesting characters (actual characters), good jokes, original kills and an epic climax.

    But again, this is where we have, for many years now, agreed to just disagree. ;-)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    RE: The reboot - Whitney, Jenna and Clay are among the more likeable characters of the series. Jason is a sheer force of destruction like never before. I freely accept that the orginal film what THE film of the slasher genre, but I came to the series in the mid 90's, when Jason had long been established as the antagonist of the series.

    With FvJ, I often hesitate to call it a Friday The 13th film. I feel that it is a A Nightmare On Elm Street film, that features Jason as a secondary antagonist. Other than the climactic tussle between the two titans of terror, there are no memorable/unique kills (even Jason X, buried beneath the mountain of unfair hate it gets, has a string of inventive kills). Then there is Ken Kirzinger, when you compare the two, you see how much work and thought Kane Hodder put into a character. Jump to 2:55:



    Kane talks with the experience of having murdered more people than any other actor. And that's not onscreen, that's in real life. ;)
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Thanks for your insights, @DarthDimi and @MajorDSmythe. The 2009 remake is the only Friday film I haven't seen apart from Jason Goes to Hell and Freddy vs. Jason, so I'll likely get to it sooner rather than later.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited May 2017 Posts: 6,432
    Some good films have already been mentioned I would add Cape Fear which is a contentious choice though I do like the Scorsese remake, De Niro is on great form as Max Cady. Scarface De Palma's version is one of my all time favouraite films.

    Casino Royale ;)
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    The Incredible Hulk
    The Magnificent Seven 1960
    Bateman Begins
    The Equalizer
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    @DarthDimi, @MajorDSmythe

    Re: Friday the 13th (2009)

    Theatrical version or extended cut?
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Go with the Extended cut. Where do you live @Some_Kind_Of_Hero ? I'm only asking because when you come to Jason Goes To Hell, if you live in the UK, don't go with the R2 copy, go with the R1 copy. The R2 copy only comes with the theatrical cut, the R1 copy has the theatrical 'R' rated cut as well as an Unrated cut.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Cool, will do. I'm stateside, but I'll be sure to check out JGTH uncut when I get there. I'm in no rush to see that one; I've heard it's the weakest by some margin.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    The general consensus is that it is the worst. I think it has it's moments, both good and bad.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    Jason Goes to Hell is definitely the worst, closely followed by Jason X.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    TOTAL RECALL

    The new film is far superior to the Schwarzenegger film.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    TOTAL RECALL

    The new film is far superior to the Schwarzenegger film.
    In terms of effects, I'd agree. In all other ways I personally far prefer the 1990 cult classic.
  • GettlerGettler USA
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    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. David Fincher, Daniel Craig, Rooney Mara. Great atmosphere, acting, music. What I love about the film is the details. Every time I watch the film I catch something new. I read the book first in anticipation for another Fincher Film, and, despite the changes they made, it was a faithful adaptation. Better than the Swedish version, which I watched a few years later.
    Now another reboot is in the making...hmm...
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Gettler wrote: »
    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. David Fincher, Daniel Craig, Rooney Mara. Great atmosphere, acting, music. What I love about the film is the details. Every time I watch the film I catch something new. I read the book first in anticipation for another Fincher Film, and, despite the changes they made, it was a faithful adaptation. Better than the Swedish version, which I watched a few years later.
    Now another reboot is in the making...hmm...
    Agreed. I really enjoyed the original Swedish version but far preferred the English remake. I am soooo upset that we won't see an English language follow up to The Girl Who Played With Fire, because that was the film among the first three which I enjoyed the most.
  • jobojobo
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    I will have to disagree there. The swedish version is miles better in my opinion!
  • GettlerGettler USA
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Gettler wrote: »
    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. David Fincher, Daniel Craig, Rooney Mara. Great atmosphere, acting, music. What I love about the film is the details. Every time I watch the film I catch something new. I read the book first in anticipation for another Fincher Film, and, despite the changes they made, it was a faithful adaptation. Better than the Swedish version, which I watched a few years later.
    Now another reboot is in the making...hmm...
    Agreed. I really enjoyed the original Swedish version but far preferred the English remake. I am soooo upset that we won't see an English language follow up to The Girl Who Played With Fire, because that was the film among the first three which I enjoyed the most.

    Agreed. I was looking forward to a sequel. That being said, I think the next one (Girl in the Spider's Web) might disappoint.
    Having read Girl who Played with Fire, I was exhausted trying to get through Hornet's Nest. Larsson tends to meander in his writing making those excessive details best left to him and not the reader.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    The new Planet of the Apes movies are miles and miles better than the old dreck.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    The departed
  • bondsumbondsum
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    jobo wrote: »
    I will have to disagree there. The swedish version is miles better in my opinion!
    Yes, I too prefer the original Swedish production over the glossy US remake. It's also better, in that they at least resolve the trilogy with two more movies, even though these were TV productions and not released at the cinema,

    Total Recall, I like the look of the new one, but miss Arnie, Stone and Ronny Cox. One thing I never particularly liked about Paul Verhoeven's version was the shoddy effects and sets. The remake was a vast improvement in the production department, but alternatively fell well-short in the casting and general story department, and worse, it seemed to drag in the third act.

    I also disagree about Planet of the Apes. The first two starring Heston and James Franciscus are still the best.

    The one's I think that are better are 3:10 To Yuma; Dirty Rotten Scoundrels; The Thing; Scarface, and possibly True Grit, though I still prefer John Wayne over Bridges.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Fistful of dollars.
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