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IF a furute bond film uses the title 007 In New York How much of the film should be in New York.

Risico007Risico007
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I have always wondered This and before we get into how bland the title is I am more curious about how much the film should be in New York?

For example in Casino Royale we only have maybe 35% of the film set in the location in Skyfall only what 20%... so just curious how much should be set in New York in your opinion.

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  • RobertsonRobertson
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    Most of it, obviously.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Robertson wrote: »
    Most of it, obviously.

    Well, obviously.

    They'll never use it though as it's too bland and it makes John Gardner's No Deals, Mr Bond (1987) sound like a good title!

    Anyway, its original title of 'Reflections in a Carey Cadillac' is much better and its only nominally a Bond short story, a balming afterthought to American editions of Fleming's Thrilling Cities (1963) after her felt he'd been too hard on New York as a city.
  • RobertsonRobertson
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    They'll never use it though

    Never say never. After all, they made Quantum of Solace.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited April 2017 Posts: 18,343
    Robertson wrote: »
    They'll never use it though

    Never say never. After all, they made Quantum of Solace.

    But that was actually a good title. As a Fleming purist it never bothered me at all. Others, yes, but not me or many other Fleming die-hards.
  • TokolosheTokoloshe Under your bed
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    It would be an appalling title for a modern Bond film. Zero originality, people would actually laugh at how dull it was for a film title.
  • RobertsonRobertson
    edited April 2017 Posts: 170
    But that was actual;ly a good title. As a Fleming purist it never bothered me at all. Others, yes, but not me or many other Fleming die-hards.

    Which reminds me, if they were to make 007 in New York, they'd have to be mindful that the film Quantum of Solace already used the plotline of Bond warning a female agent about her boyfriend. A new story would have to be used.

  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Tokoloshe wrote: »
    It would be an appalling title for a modern Bond film. Zero originality, people would actually laugh at how dull it was for a film title.

    I don't see why originality of title matters one bit. I care if it sounds good and to me it does. And I don't care if the world laughs, it's what I'd like to see. I'm secure that way.
    Good for You. IMO the title is apparent that Fleming couldn't come up with anything better or just didn't think it warranted one as it was originally an add on to THRILLING CITIES.

  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Tokoloshe wrote: »
    It would be an appalling title for a modern Bond film. Zero originality, people would actually laugh at how dull it was for a film title.

    I don't see why originality of title matters one bit. I care if it sounds good and to me it does. And I don't care if the world laughs, it's what I'd like to see. I'm secure that way.
    Good for You. IMO the title is apparent that Fleming couldn't come up with anything better or just didn't think it warranted one as it was originally an add on to THRILLING CITIES.

    It's much more this. Now it's collected in Octopussy, but obviously it wasn't always. It wasn't until November 1999 that I heard of it in fact, when it was printed in the Sunday Times Magazine for TWINE's release.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Did Fleming even come up with this title? It just lacks...panache.

    Which is not to say that they won't use it.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    IF they did use it (I don't think they will as it sounds too on the nose), I would start the film in NY as a pre-title, setting up the story (a planned terrorist attack? secret information being passed from one person to the other- with one of these agents being killed?), and return to the city in the final third/climax.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited April 2017 Posts: 4,537
    So much with less or almoost no England. Earlier i already sugest some creative ideas have if there deside to use title. Overall 007 in New York mean to be as 007 living like a King/God/Star in heaven. Using excuse to bring back gamble and girls. Together with idea using element from Spy Who Loved Me Novel this are two things i i think about that never changed.

    QOS/Daniel Craig at mabey some litle things or wish it even more that Bond alone for sometime. I like the depression factor. I think 007 in New York as first part of 2 parter with Hildebrand as second movie. My opnion of meaning of Hildebrand is also not changed and like it as possible title it be used for Bond 25 or Bond 26 with hints in Spectre.


    More present idea i got, but was more as joke that Mi6 hired 009 and send him to new York and steel James Bond his number as James stole 009 car in Spectre. What iam not joking about i that, I am inspyred by the fact i like to see James losing his number and there not using Ian Fleming credit (Daniel Craig as James Bond) and like to see there use Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson presents before the gunbarrel start.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    I would be bang on board if they called it 007 in New York and just didn't have any New York or anything that would be amazing.


    Side note: what if they changed it to something like 007 in donkaster
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    007 In New York

    That would be awesome and it should be in London/New York only.

    Craig together with Jeffrey Wright on a mission.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    I would not be against it as a title to be honest. Obviously I just would not want the entire film to solely be based there.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I agree, though I would say there have been a few exceptions:

    - LTK, two locations (USA and Isthmus)
    - GE, three (Monaco, Russia and Cuba)
    - TND, two (Germany and Vietnam)

    Not exactly one major location but no location overkill either to me.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited May 2017 Posts: 1,756
    Damn, the fans really can't let this title go :D
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I agree, though I would say there have been a few exceptions:

    - LTK, two locations (USA and Isthmus)
    - GE, three (Monaco, Russia and Cuba)
    - TND, two (Germany and Vietnam)

    Not exactly one major location but no location overkill either to me.

    Of the three, GE did it best because you really felt like you were in Russia, the major location. LTK and TND obviously had "fake" locations.

    TLD aside, I think the Bond films have really neglected eastern Europe as a location.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
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    Furute?
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited May 2017 Posts: 7,207
    I agree but whay was the alternative? Western film crews would not have been allowed to film over there, especially not for a spy film. Although I do think Yugoslavia in FRWL, East Germany in OP and Czechoslovakia in TLD worked well.

    But CR for all its merits actually kind of slipped up in that department. They use Karlovy Vary as a stand-in for Montenegro while it is actually a well-known and recognisable city in the Czech Republic. Furthermore, they didn't take the effort to change the signs from Czech to Montenegrin.

    Why not either state that they are going to Karlovy Vary or just film in Montenegro?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I'm saying they could use eastern Europe now.
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