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  • RevelatorRevelator
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Watching the Fleming documentary now!

    Let us know what you think!
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Reading from Moonraker at the cliffs of Dover and showing us inside Fleming's room at Kitzbühel were certainly nice touches. Also interesting to see that the translators of the German editions were women and to hear them advocate for women to read Fleming's Bonds, calling them romances.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Also interesting to see that the translators of the German editions were women and to hear them advocate for women to read Fleming's Bonds, calling them romances.

    That is interesting! Bond was written from the start to be read by both men and women, and somewhere along the way publishers lost sight of that and started marketing them as manly sexy thrillers. Today's world of books is very divided along boy book / girl book lines, with visual cues like fonts and imagery to tell you which ones you're supposed to read.

    I think the current run of Vintage book covers for Bond is more gender-neutral again, which is one reason I like them so much.

    (That turned into a bit of a rant, but the way books by women are marketed as being only for women to read is a sore point.)
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I’ve been in planes all day. Now in the Detroit airport, soon off to Binghamton. I’m just about finished with DAF; I have FRWL and DN packed!

    I hope your flights are going ok, between the government shutdown and the bad weather.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Good stuff. I've got about two or three chapters left of FRWL then it's on to DN, hopefully tomorrow.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Oh good Creasy.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Oh good Creasy.

    It's so easy to fly through them when I'm not preoccupied with work or a ton of films.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    A ton of films indeed.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I read them once. Don't remember. Does that count?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    I read them once. Don't remember. Does that count?

    But of course.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    She has never read them, no.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    edited January 2019 Posts: 3,675
    How's your flight reading going, @Birdleson? Also, does anyone else have censored swear words in their copies?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    So far, the "n-word" has yet to be censored in any of mine. I believe I saw a usage of the "f-word" blotted once in either FRWL or DAF, probably the former.
  • RevelatorRevelator
    edited January 2019 Posts: 2,918
    Fleming was not a fan of profanity in print and said so on a couple of occasions. The Bond novels are notable for avoiding any swearwords stronger than "damn" or "bastard." The only exception is the Rasta in TMWTGG who says "Sheeit."

    The n-word was edited out of the American editions of LALD and DAF. But after 2003 most copies sold in America have been reprints of the original British edition.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Okay. I really did think that my stupid editions were editing out stuff that the British versions had.

    Tiffany Case says "f**k" then.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I'm alright. Finished Dr No a couple days ago. What an unpleasant way to go. At least it wasn't human defecation.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Way to go, @Birdleson! You won't regret it!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Jealous, @Birdleson, let me know your thoughts on them! I know once I buy one, I'll use that to jumpstart yet another read through of the series.

    And fear not, I've only 50 or so pages left of DN. I'm seeing it through to the end this time.
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    I'm alright. Finished Dr No a couple days ago. What an unpleasant way to go. At least it wasn't human defecation.

    That gives me an idea for the climax of the next Bond film...
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    As of right now, I haven't started it.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Goldfinger marks the first appearance of Aston Martin, a DB Mark III.

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    I'm catching up to the last proposed 7-day schedule, to be at Goldfinger (Monday January 28-Monday February 4) and "Quantum of Solace" (Tuesday February 5-Tuesday February 12).

    Some quick notes.

    Moonraker
    Poker played at Blades.
    Grand Slam.
    Krebs compared to Peter Lorre.
    Delta fins on the Moonraker.
    Paroxysm. Cyclops. Gyro.
    Devil May Care

    Diamonds Are Forever
    "That was quite an exit. Like something out of an old Buster Keaton film."
    Devil-may-care
    Death Is Forever

    From Russia With Love
    "There is a man called Mathis at the head of it. A Mendès-France appointment. He would be a tempting target and it would be easy to operate in France."

  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    I'm catching up to the last proposed 7-day schedule, to be at Goldfinger (Monday January 28-Monday February 4) and "Quantum of Solace" (Tuesday February 5-Tuesday February 12).

    Some quick notes.

    Moonraker
    Poker played at Blades.
    Grand Slam.
    Krebs compared to Peter Lorre.
    Delta fins on the Moonraker.
    Paroxysm. Cyclops. Gyro.
    Devil May Care

    Diamonds Are Forever
    "That was quite an exit. Like something out of an old Buster Keaton film."
    Devil-may-care
    Death Is Forever

    From Russia With Love
    "There is a man called Mathis at the head of it. A Mendès-France appointment. He would be a tempting target and it would be easy to operate in France."

    I'm sorry, what's being brought up here? Connections to the films?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Yeah, just random items I thought were of interest.

    Poker played at Blades I thought compares to the Casino Royale film choosing poker over baccarat,

    Grand Slam is used in a later book. The Greek mentions are interest to me. Other film/pop culture references. Phrases that became Bond titles. That kind of stuff.

  • RevelatorRevelator
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    It just occurred to me; though they are a staple of the films, the only Fleming novels to feature a female worthy of being called a “Secondary” Bond Girl are GF and OHMSS.

    That shows how much GF impacted the formula of the Bond films. Pat Fearing in TB is a semi-example of a secondary Bond girl, though she's only in the first quarter of the book. But Bond does get to bed her.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    In the midst of reading now, Bond and Goldfinger are about to enjoy some golf.
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    I know dogs were [and are] occasionally consumed in Korea and the parts of the far east, but were cats also eaten? Or is Fleming just being nasty to Koreans again?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Revelator wrote: »
    I know dogs were [and are] occasionally consumed in Korea and the parts of the far east, but were cats also eaten? Or is Fleming just being nasty to Koreans again?

    Cats and dogs are quite a common aspect of Korean cuisine.
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    According to wikipedia, "In Korea, cat meat was historically brewed into a tonic as a folk remedy for neuralgia and arthritis. Modern consumption is decreasing and more likely to be in the form of cat soup."
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