MI6 Community Novel Bondathon - Reborn!

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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I'm enjoying it already. But I have not done one of these, so I don't know how/when we comment.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Sure, let's go!
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    @Birdleson Thank you!

    I’ll likely start Colonel Sun either tonight or tomorrow.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Here we go.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Just signing in to say I'm going to start Colonel Sun tonight.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited June 2019 Posts: 40,976
    I really enjoyed CS, about as solid and Fleming-esque as a non-Fleming novel will get. The one bit that dragged for me was:
    The overall boat section - not that it was bad, but I do wish the world had been a bit more expansive and unveiled than a lengthy boat ride lasting numerous chapters.

    I thought that it also:
    Handled the torture sequence that's semi-adapted in SP infinitely better, not only in dialogue but the torture and intensity itself, and I really loved the twists and second guessing the book left me with. Even in the final chapter or two, I was awaiting a particular character to be unveiled as a rat. I'm not sure what my favorite sequence is, but the not-so-safehouse one was excellent, a nice grounded action sequence with a lovely mixture of drama, plot progression and death.

    I thought it was leagues better than any of the newer continuation novels I've read, bar none. It's a shame he didn't get to carry on Fleming's legacy with even more installments.
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    Read Chapter 1. I found Amis's style is unique (in a good way) yet still close enough to Fleming's to work as a continuation story. Neat to get Tanner in on the action early. Classic cliffhanger to boot. Not a bad start!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    What I liked right off the bat is the atmosphere and that he is taking his time with descriptions (that doesn't need spoiler tag, right?). It is close enough to Fleming to keep me reading.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I strongly agree, I wish Amis had written a couple more.
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    Amis went into this only wanting to do one novel. Do we know why he wouldn’t consider more?
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    vzok wrote: »
    Amis went into this only wanting to do one novel. Do we know why he wouldn’t consider more?

    He was already a successful novelist and presumably wanted to prioritize writing about his own characters. For Amis Colonel Sun was a fun genre exercise, but not the sort of book he wanted to regularly write.
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    Read Chapters 2 and 3. I'm not going at a very fast pace. So far I'm definitely enjoying it though. The style is good and it's got a very exciting story with a lot of intrigue.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited June 2019 Posts: 18,281
    Revelator wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Amis went into this only wanting to do one novel. Do we know why he wouldn’t consider more?

    He was already a successful novelist and presumably wanted to prioritize writing about his own characters. For Amis Colonel Sun was a fun genre exercise, but not the sort of book he wanted to regularly write.

    Yes, I agree that that was a large part of it. Amis later wrote (in the 1991 introduction to the Coronet reprint of the novel) that he did Colonel Sun as a one-off sidestepping out of his career as a straight novelist. I believe Amis was just contracted by what was then called Glidrose for the one Bond continuation novel to see how that went first and foremost.

    The original idea was to have one author write a single Bond novel each under the house name of Robert Markham. However, this idea ultimately floundered when Kingsley Amis' effort Colonel Sun received very mixed reviews and rather disappointing sales. The more's the pity as I (and a good many others) regard Colonel Sun as the best of the lot of the Bond continuation novels.

    As we have seen*, Amis had initial plans for a second Bond novel and much later for a short story where Bond would be killed off a la Sherlock Holmes at the Reichenbach Falls in the short story 'The Final Problem' (1893). Glidrose of course refused to even countenance the idea of a story where their golden goose, James Bond, was killed off. In any event, the literary Bond was not continued proper until the imminent death of the continuation project's objector-in-chief, Mrs Ann Fleming, allowed the commissioning of John Gardner to write Licence Renewed (1981) and embarking on his own long series of Bond novels.

    * https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/6712/exclusive-information-on-kingsley-amis-proposed-second-james-bond-novel-in-the-1970s/
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I was disappointed with CS. Despite its excellent beginning, something it has in common with others. The only continuation novel of those I have read that I have enjoyed has been Wood s JAMES BOND, THE SPY WHO LOVED ME.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    I read the first chapter last night. It really is a long time since I've read CS, and it was almost like coming to it fresh.

    I'm impressed with the way Amis captures Fleming's writing style (though not surprised, as he's such a good writer). He has Bond's character down perfectly, and there's the same combination of a solid grounding in the present - you get a real sense that this is a couple of years after TMWTGG and the world has moved on slightly - with Bond's nostalgia for earlier days.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Chapters 2, 3 and 4 down! Quick thoughts:
    - It only takes Amis a few sentences to give us a clear picture of the Hammonds and invest them with pathos.

    He writes Bond so well; the drugging scene gives him the mix of toughness and vulnerability that's why I love the character so much.

    - I thought "Oh, that guy sounds like the baddie in The 39 Steps" a second before Bond thought the same thing!
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Chapters 6 & 7: The Villain, the Girl and the Allies
    Colonel Sun himself is quite a creation, with a striking appearance and backstory. The way his accent is described would be difficult or impossible to portray on film. He comes across as fairly sympathetic until you realise he's a torturer and killer.

    Ariadne is a wonderful name; she's certainly got Bond all tangled up in her thread, but will she show him the way out of the labyrinth? The grim game she and Bond are forced to play with each other is a fascinating read, and she's clearly his type: sophisticated, brave and smart, but with a touch of vulnerability.

    Then we meet some bad guys who aren't, after all, the main bad guys, and Bond forms the sort of uneasy East/West alliance we see in a few of the films: a meeting of professionals from opposite sides of the Iron Curtain, united for a common goal, respectful of each other's skills, but not about to trust each other completely.

    Some nice little details about food, drink and taxi drivers here. Very Bond. Very Fleming.
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    Got to get back on more Colonel Sun soon. Been spending a lot of free time watching the films in the novel order, which has been a lot of fun so far. Already possible shifts in my movie ranking. But I will try to read some more in the next couple days.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I’m on a two week road trip, so it’s been hard to find a moment to read.

    I was going to suggest audio books, but I've never been fond of them myself. I like reading at my own pace and the narrators always find ways to annoy me.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I am enjoying this reread trough COLONEL SUN even more than I have in the past , though it's slow going, due to my travels.

    A few more notes on Chapter 3.
    Amis's attention to detail in regard to M's home and effects is quite Flemingesque, but that, of course, has been minced by other continuation authors. What takes Amis's attempt even deeper, though, is Bond's relation to this environment and these details, and his attached feelings and memories.

    I am more than satisfied with the way in which Tanner is portrayed here. Being M's number 2, he immediately falls into the position of authority, giving instructions to Bond in M's stead, something that I could never see Kinnear pull off convincingly (with his interpretation of the character as a toady, inept secretary, rather than someone who can step in at a moments notice and run MI6). Michael Kitchen was the guy. Amis also builds on the foundation set by Fleming; Tanner being Bond's best friend in the service.

    I really wish they had offed Kinnear's Tanner, as planned, in SP. Sure it's a total violation of Fleming (as if Tanner "ratting out" Bond to M wasn't!) but it's the only way to get rid of that portrayal at this point...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited July 2019 Posts: 12,480
    I'll write more on this book later this week, hopefully soon.
    What struck me, even on first reading, is the pace and feel. Also the credible lead female character. Perhaps a little too much time spent on boats ...? ;) I don't really have many complaints about this story.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    A few wrapup thoughts on Colonel Sun:
    The Evil Plot seems like a bit of a mess, frankly, with loads of potential for it to go horribly wrong (as indeed it does).

    Bond's Greek allies, male and female, combine the best aspects of being Foreigners (e.g. they can get away with attitudes and actions that would be improper for Bond) with enough Britishness to make them acceptable. Fleming would approve.

    Nice to see a bit more of Bond's relationship with Tanner, always described as his best friend at work.

    All the minor characters are beautifully drawn. My favourite is Ariadne's chubby friend who lets them stay the night.

    I feel we don't see enough of the Colonel himself; he only really makes two appearances, and it's not enough to build up the terror and disgust he should inspire.

    The Greek scene-setting is just wonderful. The food, the drink, the landscape, the sun going down like a fat incandescent orange. Bond must be a bit homesick, though, as he keeps comparing bits of the scenery to golf courses and billiard tables.

    Is it my imagination, or does Amis have a bit of a snide poke at the films with Bond's reflection on how little use Q Branch's gadgets have been? He's definitely tipping a wink to Casino Royale when he has Sun reject genital torture as too crude and obvious.

    The single line that stuck with me from my first reading all those years ago is the one about the upward nod that signifies 'no' in that part of the world. It stood out because I knew about this from Ancient Greek lessons: a supplicant begging a favour from a man would take hold of his beard so he couldn't make the 'no' gesture!

    On this re-read, I was impressed by how well Amis channels Fleming (although he has the advantage of writing quite soon after Fleming left off). He's my second-favourite continuation author, below Horowitz but comfortably above the rest of the pack.
  • Posts: 12,473
    I read Chapters 4 and 5. Really enjoyed the introduction of the villain and cohorts!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I used to live in Bradenton. It was a nice area (more than 25 years ago).
    We have Florida members still.

    But Florida ... in July ... way too hot and humid for me. I hope you have a great time, though.
  • Posts: 12,473
    Glad he loved it. I did as well. Definitely a favorite for me.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    None of them.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Interesting question. Which Fleming novels, if any, did you read before seeing the film?

    For me it’s CR, MR, TSWLM, OHMSS and the short story titles. TMWTGG was near simultaneous, I believe.

    CR and YOLT.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    I want to say all of them, but certainly most? It's hard to know because I started acquiring the books and then got on to the films shortly afterwards. It probably took me a couple of years to read/watch everything.
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    Just CR for me.
  • edited March 2020 Posts: 2,918
    Just CR for me too. I read it in 1993, so by the time the film came out I'd been imagining what a movie adaptation would be like for 13 years. It was therefore inevitable that I would be disappointed by the 2006 adaptation, despite acknowledging it as one of the very best Bond films.
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