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  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    CR...Better make that two...it's my second favourite Bond film of all time (after FRWL). Casino Royale easily takes DAF (among my least favourite Bond films) and handily overcomes SF (my second favourite Craig era film).
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    And there you have it folks. CR is still seen as the best film in the Craig era...I wonder why? Hmmmm.....Fleming perhaps?
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    Posts: 1,081
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    And there you have it folks. CR is still seen as the best film in the Craig era...I wonder why? Hmmmm.....Fleming perhaps?

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  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
    Posts: 2,426
    All three are pretty much neck and neck in my rankings, but I’ll go for CR against DAF and SF against CR thx
  • GeneralGogolGeneralGogol
    Posts: 928
    Two royales with cheese, s'il vous plait.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,841
    CR. Not even close.
    CR. A close one, since I really like SF. Both are in my top 10.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    CR beats both of the others for me as well.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    Posts: 4,341
    CR is a classic, DAF a silly romp.
    The raw CR is quite different from the stylish and beautiful-to-look-at SF, but beats SF in terms of action and suspense.
  • MooreFunMooreFun
    Posts: 385
    DAF, if only because it's over more quickly.

    Second one is like asking me to pick between cyanide and ricin, neither is exactly my cup of tea. SF by a hair, I suppose.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,546
    Dwayne wrote: »
    CR. Not even close.
    CR. A close one, since I really like SF. Both are in my top 10.

    This for me as well. When I saw CR vs. DAF, part of me thought it'd be the '67 CR vs. DAF. 2006 CR blows it away (even though I'm just sitting down to watch DAF for the first time in a long time, so we'll see what I think after!).

    CR edges out SF as well. They both have incredible, incendiary PTS', they both have *relatively* boring final acts. Skyfall has my favourite scene in all of Bond, but CR is just more consistently a classic.
  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
    Posts: 2,426
    MooreFun wrote: »
    DAF, if only because it's over more quickly.

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    CR beats DAF 32-2

    CR beats SF 29-5

    Round 133:

    MR vs SF

    and

    TLD vs SP
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,417
    MR as its more fun!
    And
    TLD, without a doubt though I'm not one of the SP haters!
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    SF
    TLD
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,114
    MR
    TLD
    Both with extreme comfort.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 5,185
    SF over MR (22 places apart in my ranking.)
    TLD over SP (much closer but still definitive.)
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,466
    SF over MR

    TLD over SP

    Both very easy choices.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    The Mendes films for me.
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    Posts: 1,081
    Moonraker as it's formerly my favourite Moore era Bond film (recently replaced by For Your Eyes Only) and I still feel it's his best performance in the role. I've always said to enjoy MR you have to accept it for what it intends on being, which is unadulterated fun. That being said it has many highlights such as the centrifuge which I feel is extremely Flemingesque and is one of the few moments we get of Moore's Bond showing serious vulnerability. There's also the relationship with Drax which Michael Lonsdale plays to perfection. The pigeon shooting scene is one of my favourite scenes in the entire series. The opening credits are incredible and I'd argue one of the best in series as the stunt-work and camera-work is insane. No CGI skydiving like QOS. John Barry's score, while not my favourite, definitely has moments of magic. The locations are far more exciting. The culmination of all these elements for me make Moonraker a far better and enjoyable film then Skyfall which has always left me underwhelmed from the first time I watched it in the cinema.

    The Living Daylights is way better then Skyfall in every aspect. Dalton is a better Bond evoking the characterisation penned by Fleming. It amuses me that people credit Craig for bringing a more grittier, harder edged Bond to the cinema, when the truth is that Dalton was the original. The opening moments in Bratislava derived from Fleming and using that to drive the rest of the narrative is pure genius and something that unfortunately is lost in contemporary Bond films. The moment between Bond and Pushkin is unequivocally one of the best moments in the franchise. I love Dalton's intensity. Dalton's Bond is such a believable character, you believe he could be a killer in real life, but you also believe that he is vulnerable too, such as when Saunders is murdered or when he's drugged by Kara. In both of these moments you can see that Dalton feels like he took his eye off the ball. Unfortunately, this balance wasn't nailed with Craig's portrayal in Skyfall, IMO. The whole implication of M being Bond's mother figure didn't gel with me. The fact that he cried when she died, but didn't when Tracy is murdered in OHMSS was ridiculous. The best element of SF was Bond's fashion and the final scene where we're reintroduced to the classic M office, IMO. I could wax lyrical about TLD all day, but my final points would be the cinematography is the best of Glenn's entries, it's John Barry's best score behind the likes of On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Thunderball and A-ha's opening title song is one of my absolute favourite.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    @Octopussy, great reading your thoughts. Just one thing: TLD is up against SP, not SF this time.
  • 2Wint2Kidd2Wint2Kidd
    Posts: 698
    SF & SP
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,044
    SF
    TLD
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 1,081
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    @Octopussy, great reading your thoughts. Just one thing: TLD is up against SP, not SF this time.

    Oh, well my comments still stand because I think Spectre is even worse then Skyfall.

    I was extremely excited to see SP when I saw the first trailer and knowing the Blofeld was returning. Alas, when I saw the film I was disappointed to say the least. It's better to compare Daylights to Spectre because in both films Bond has a relationship with a central character. Bond's relationship with Kara is way more fleshed out and believable then that of Bond and Madeleine. The latter don't have any real time together to make me feel there's any conviction in the relationship. Bond saves Madeleine from Hinx on 2x occasions and suddenly their in love? I don't buy it. Arguably TLD's weak spot is it's villains, but nothing can be worse then Blofeld being turned into Bond's adoptive brother. The entire reveal of Blofeld is underwhelming. That was the nail in the coffin for me when I was watching it in the cinema for the first time. The fact that four films in they then tried to make Blofeld the 'author' of all Bond's suffering, even showing visuals of all Bond's previous enemies was downright stupid. The cinematography has this yellow hue for the entire first half of this film. Thomas Newman's scores are uninspired in both SF and SP, but at least when watching Skyfall it felt original, whereas here it feels recycled. Hinx was completely underutilised as a henchman. Bond gets tortured and then suddenly recovers, escaping with marksmanship skills that are worthy of Goldeneye '64 on agent difficulty. The positives of this film are again Craig's impeccable wardrobe, both suiting and casual. I'm also a fan of WOTW as a song and I like the PTS sequence. SP can't even hold a candle to TLD which is a classic Bond film through and through with a narrative derived straight from the pages of Fleming. No contest here.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    SF

    TLD
  • infoviseinfovise Ireland
    Posts: 114
    SF over MR

    TLD over SP
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,584
    Moonraker
    Spectre
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,114
    Octopussy wrote: »
    Moonraker as it's formerly my favourite Moore era Bond film (recently replaced by For Your Eyes Only) and I still feel it's his best performance in the role. I've always said to enjoy MR you have to accept it for what it intends on being, which is unadulterated fun. That being said it has many highlights such as the centrifuge which I feel is extremely Flemingesque and is one of the few moments we get of Moore's Bond showing serious vulnerability. There's also the relationship with Drax which Michael Lonsdale plays to perfection. The pigeon shooting scene is one of my favourite scenes in the entire series. The opening credits are incredible and I'd argue one of the best in series as the stunt-work and camera-work is insane. No CGI skydiving like QOS. John Barry's score, while not my favourite, definitely has moments of magic. The locations are far more exciting. The culmination of all these elements for me make Moonraker a far better and enjoyable film then Skyfall which has always left me underwhelmed from the first time I watched it in the cinema.

    The Living Daylights is way better then Skyfall in every aspect. Dalton is a better Bond evoking the characterisation penned by Fleming. It amuses me that people credit Craig for bringing a more grittier, harder edged Bond to the cinema, when the truth is that Dalton was the original. The opening moments in Bratislava derived from Fleming and using that to drive the rest of the narrative is pure genius and something that unfortunately is lost in contemporary Bond films. The moment between Bond and Pushkin is unequivocally one of the best moments in the franchise. I love Dalton's intensity. Dalton's Bond is such a believable character, you believe he could be a killer in real life, but you also believe that he is vulnerable too, such as when Saunders is murdered or when he's drugged by Kara. In both of these moments you can see that Dalton feels like he took his eye off the ball. Unfortunately, this balance wasn't nailed with Craig's portrayal in Skyfall, IMO. The whole implication of M being Bond's mother figure didn't gel with me. The fact that he cried when she died, but didn't when Tracy is murdered in OHMSS was ridiculous. The best element of SF was Bond's fashion and the final scene where we're reintroduced to the classic M office, IMO. I could wax lyrical about TLD all day, but my final points would be the cinematography is the best of Glenn's entries, it's John Barry's best score behind the likes of On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Thunderball and A-ha's opening title song is one of my absolute favourite.

    I find myself in agreement with practically everything you just penned down @Octopussy.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,027
    SF (of course, though I like MR more and more with each viewing) and TLD.
  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred
    Posts: 1,397
    Skyfall
    The Living Daylights
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 3,262
    MR. My favorite Bond film of the comical, fantasy themed 1970s.

    and

    TLD. My favorite Bond film of the back-to-Fleming, down-to-earth 1980s.

    These constitute my 2 favorite post-1960s 007 films.

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