Bond film ranking tournament. Final results

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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    TB over DAD

    CR over DAF

    As has been said. An easy round.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    TB
    CR
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
    Posts: 538
    TB (7) over DAD (24) - Easy Round

    CR (1) vs. DAF (22) - Easy Round

    Should be virtually unanimous.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    TB - Even though i don't hate DAD, but TB is Connery and Young the top of their game.

    CR - same, but this time its Craig and Campbell
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    00Agent wrote: »
    TB - Even though i don't hate DAD, but TB is Connery and Young the top of their game.

    CR - same, but this time its Craig and Campbell
    +1
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited June 2018 Posts: 7,110
    TB and DAF

    I recognize that CR is a better film but, and call that melancholy, it just doesn’t give me that special feeling.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    TB over DAD

    DAF over CR (CR is the better film but I enjoy DAF more)
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    TB and DAF

    I recognize that CR is a better film but, and call that melancholy, it just doesn’t give me that special feeling.

    Same here....
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    TB vs DAD - epic beating in this case. TB is one of my favourite Bond outings and DAD isn't.

    CR vs DAF - not so epic beating, because I too enjoy many elements of DAF immensely, particularly the dialogue and overall distinct charisma of the film. CR is a superior product overall, but it's a bit melodramatic towards the end.
  • Posts: 7,415
    TB over DAD without hesitation.
    CR over DAF equally so!
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,582
    DAD and CR

    The first was a really difficult choice but TB seems kind of a slog in places where as DAD just keeps moving at such a high pace.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    TB v DAD - Sorry but I can’t subscribe to this notion that TB is one of the greats. A bloated drudge crossed with a holiday brochure and Connery just going through the motions. Brozza does a great job of trying to hold the lunacy together and DAD is for the large part more entertaining and at least moves at a fair lick. That said DAD commits horrific crimes against humanity whereas TB is merely a bit dull. An easy win for TB.

    DAF v CR - The only argument someone can possibly make for DAF is born of misty eyed nostalgia. The only elements it betters CR in is witty one liners and fun, if incompetent, henchmen. A thrashing by CR.

    Certainly one of the easier rounds.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,026
    TB is no more than solid mid-field for me...but DAD is the nadir of the entire series.
    CR is among my top four, while DAF is down there a few notches above the bottom.
  • Posts: 4,044
    TB
    CR
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,110
    TB v DAD - Sorry but I can’t subscribe to this notion that TB is one of the greats. A bloated drudge crossed with a holiday brochure and Connery just going through the motions. Brozza does a great job of trying to hold the lunacy together and DAD is for the large part more entertaining and at least moves at a fair lick. That said DAD commits horrific crimes against humanity whereas TB is merely a bit dull. An easy win for TB.

    DAF v CR - The only argument someone can possibly make for DAF is born of misty eyed nostalgia. The only elements it betters CR in is witty one liners and fun, if incompetent, henchmen. A thrashing by CR.

    Certainly one of the easier rounds.

    And a better soundtrack!
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    TB - I'm not as big on TB as some here, but it clearly is the superior product when compared to DAD.

    CR - I also enjoy DAF for what it is, but come on, this is CR we're talking about.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    TB - Connery flouncing about the Bahamas, with the crew on top notch form, with the most pulchritudinous gals in tow.

    CR. One of the films to rival the 60's classics.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,889
    Obviously Thunderball and Casino Royale (2006).
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,369
    TB over DAD
    CR over DAF
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,172
    TB >>>>>> DAD
    CR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [end of the universe]>>>>>>>> ...
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 3,262
    TB and CR
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    TB beats DAD

    CR beats DAF

    both 21-2

    Round 39:

    TMWTGG vs AVTAK

    and

    LTK vs QOS
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    This one is quite easy for me.

    TMWTGG vs AVTAK - I much prefer Rog's sophomore entry to his last. Nearly everything about it is more interesting for me. I think AVTAK's greatest failing is John Glen. He seems to be asleep at the wheel for this outing, and the film suffers as a result, despite solid performances from a lot of the cast.

    LTK vs QoS - I've never bought into this narrative that QoS is one of the best. It's distinctly middle to lower of the pack for me, saved by a great Craig performance. I was quite disappointed walking out of the theatre in 2008. LTK on the other hand is a top 10 entry of mine and I think it's great despite the shoddy production qualities and hammy acting in places. It's a film I detested during my youth, but truly appreciate these days.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Birdleson wrote: »
    TMWTGG with ease.
    QOS with somewhat less ease.

    Same for me.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,172
    AVTAK

    Both are utterly absurd, full of subplots that go nowhere and attempts at comedy which fail miserably. However, AVTAK has a few technical saving graces and a Roger Moore who is both adorable and surprisingly serious. Also, the blonde from AVTAK is always welcome to use my shower; the blonde from TMWTGG... nah-ah!

    LTK

    This was a tough one for me, since QOS has grown on me in a very positive way. I can't decide between Dalton and Craig either. And LTK makes mistakes which QOS manages to avoid simply because it's so short. However, QOS had it easy; LTK not so much. LTK was a Craig Bond long before Craig was even considered as Bond and especially long before audiences would welcome the tough, aggressive Bond with open arms. LTK went for the very thing neither critics nor audiences were willing to accept from him at the time. If nothing else, LTK commands my respect for trying. But there's more. I'm not sure why so many people hate on Robert Davi. Sanchez is a perfectly good if not great villain, grounded in reality as well as knee-deep in the Fleming tradition of being slightly "off". Bond's quest, while replaying a handful of classic films, was a fresh, different and fascinating side-story in a long tradition of fairly straightforward and relatively impersonal missions. It's bad enough to have Bond as an enemy if you want to engineer a war between the West and the East; it must be even worse if you did something to one of Bond's closest friends. Every time I watch the film, I love the exciting prospect of Bond crippling Sanchez' entire operation down to bits. And then there's the indisputable power of the climax. It takes its time, yet it never slows down. Like one electric current chasing another, Bond goes after those trucks with determination and unbreakable resilience. And absolutely nothing in QOS is as cool as this:

    Licence-to-Kill-Kenworth-truck-wheelie.png
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    TMWTGG v AVTAK: Not a lot to choose here. Both near the bottom of the barrel. Both have great villains and awful Bond girls. But May Day beats Nick Nack, Barry's score is fabulous and AVTAK has a few decent action sequences (PTS, taxi chase, GG Bridge final) to just scrape over the line. TMTWGG has very little going for it at all. Cheap, uninspired, dull, the one genuinely great moment ruined by a stupid comedy sound effect. It's the very definition of lacklustre.

    LTK v QOS: Another very close one. Both middling to bottom half entries for me. Both fairly simple plots and excellent performances by the leading man but where LTK nicks it is with a better villain (although I'm a fan of Almaric) and two fabulous action sequences in the waterskiing and tanker chase.
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    I actually prefer AVTAK over TMWTGG by a substantial amount. Both have terrific main villains, but almost everything else is vastly preferable in AVTAK to me. Feels more energetic and unique.

    LTK edges out QOS. Frankly though, both are great, underrappreciated (by the public), and unique Bond entries. Love them both.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 3,000
    TMWTGG over AVTAK

    LTK over QOS
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    AVTAK over TMWTGG - View is a better entry all round, despite Moores age.

    LTK over QOS - I watched Quantum yesterday and actually enjoyed it. However I've enjoyed LTK since I first saw it. Great performances from Dalton and Davi.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    TMWTGG
    QOS
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