Your favourite US President ....and why ?

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  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
    edited November 2018 Posts: 65
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Gonna take a lot of flack for this, but, in my lifetime, gotta say Donald Trump. 5 reasons why:

    3) Promises made, promises kept.

    This gave me a good laugh.

    I'm laughing too, all the way to my retirement fund. hahahaha
  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
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    Since I doubt you're listening I won't waste time going into details. Let it just be said: I think you're a troll. Here's your FLACK.

    Well heaven forbid, someone else has a different opinion.
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    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.
  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
    edited November 2018 Posts: 65
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    Since I doubt you're listening I won't waste time going into details. Let it just be said: I think you're a troll. Here's your FLACK.

    Very mature.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited November 2018 Posts: 12,480
    A few people do support Trump; his core base always will. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, of course. But those of us who do find Trump totally unfit to be president are also allowed our reactions, too. Much more to come. Just keep it all civil enough is what I ask.

    My favorite president during my lifetime would be JFK.
  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
    edited November 2018 Posts: 65
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.
  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
    edited November 2018 Posts: 65
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.

    That applies to everyone, not just Trump. Time you moved on, you're now straying to far out...of this thread.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Does he count?
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    Does he count?

    We've already had Jeb Bartlet & Lex Luthor listed, I don't see why he shouldn't.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?
    I'm not your math teacher. Ask your pal (and Trump's) Putin for the numbers.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    President Merkin Muffley
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Hahahahahahaha!!! Good one.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 3,566
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.

    That applies to everyone, not just Trump. Time you moved on, you're now straying to far out...of this thread.

    Well that's pretty rude. No wonder you're a Trumpista.
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?

    How so? Tax cuts targeted at the wealthy will do it every time. Oops, we've got no $ for social services (or even to pay Veterans' benefits) -- it's all going to Trump & his billionaire buddies.
  • Posts: 12,518
    drstrangelove-warroom.gif?w=500&h=300

    President Merkin Muffley

    As a fan of Dr. Strangelove, this pleases me.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 2018 Posts: 4,693
    FoxRox wrote: »
    drstrangelove-warroom.gif?w=500&h=300

    President Merkin Muffley

    As a fan of Dr. Strangelove, this pleases me.

    Same here! With all violence going on in the world, I'm starting to think Kubrick predicted the future right with A Clockwork Orange as well.
  • Posts: 12,518
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    drstrangelove-warroom.gif?w=500&h=300

    President Merkin Muffley

    As a fan of Dr. Strangelove, this pleases me.

    Same here! With all violence going on in the world, I'm starting to think Kubrick predicted the future right with A Clockwork Orange as well.

    I know it. It’s not exactly the same, but the gist of Clockwork Orange is kind of the world we’re in now. Which is bad.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 11,425
    I am tempted to say "The next one", as they haven't screwed up yet.

    Lincoln? A canny, cunning politician, not above the cut and thrust of everyday politics but still able to steer a clear course with a steady vision. He saved the US and helped end the shameful crime of slavery, although the country and South in particular are still a very long way from having faced up to its legacies.

    Jimmy Carter seems a very decent man - perhaps the most upright and moral person to have held the office. He was undone by one unfortunate military mishap - he made a sound call, something went wrong on the mission and he lost the next election. Politics is crazy. But his legacy is greater than many realise - his farsighted policies helped kick start silicon valley and the tech revolution.

    FDR obviously a legend for having helped defeat fascism and save the free world. Not sure his 4 terms in office reflects all that well on him but I suppose it was an exceptional moment in history.


  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?
    I'm not your math teacher. Ask your pal (and Trump's) Putin for the numbers.
    No problem, bud, just trying to but some data to your claims. Never insinuated you were a math teacher. Math teachers supposedly have high IQ's.
  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
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    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.

    That applies to everyone, not just Trump. Time you moved on, you're now straying to far out...of this thread.

    Well that's pretty rude. No wonder you're a Trumpista.
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?

    How so? Tax cuts targeted at the wealthy will do it every time. Oops, we've got no $ for social services (or even to pay Veterans' benefits) -- it's all going to Trump & his billionaire buddies.

    Not being rude, just your misinterpretation.

    All tax cuts favor the rich, no way of getting around that. Btw, system knows that's its the rich/investors, who create jobs, not poor or middle class. Who in turn pay taxes to fund social services. Can't penalize them for that.
  • jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.

    That applies to everyone, not just Trump. Time you moved on, you're now straying to far out...of this thread.

    Well that's pretty rude. No wonder you're a Trumpista.
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?

    How so? Tax cuts targeted at the wealthy will do it every time. Oops, we've got no $ for social services (or even to pay Veterans' benefits) -- it's all going to Trump & his billionaire buddies.

    Not being rude, just your misinterpretation.

    All tax cuts favor the rich, no way of getting around that. Btw, system knows that's its the rich/investors, who create jobs, not poor or middle class. Who in turn pay taxes to fund social services. Can't penalize them for that.

    Untrue, but then so is everything else you say. Trump PROMISED that his tax cuts would favor the middle class & hurt the rich. He lied.
  • jbohoh7jbohoh7 Jet Skiing into Atlantis
    Posts: 65
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.

    That applies to everyone, not just Trump. Time you moved on, you're now straying to far out...of this thread.

    Well that's pretty rude. No wonder you're a Trumpista.
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?

    How so? Tax cuts targeted at the wealthy will do it every time. Oops, we've got no $ for social services (or even to pay Veterans' benefits) -- it's all going to Trump & his billionaire buddies.

    Not being rude, just your misinterpretation.

    All tax cuts favor the rich, no way of getting around that. Btw, system knows that's its the rich/investors, who create jobs, not poor or middle class. Who in turn pay taxes to fund social services. Can't penalize them for that.

    Untrue, but then so is everything else you say. Trump PROMISED that his tax cuts would favor the middle class & hurt the rich. He lied.

    He reduced the tax rates, that's a fact. He never said "hurt the rich". That's making stuff up to vent your sore loss, for Hillary. Unlike "you can keep your doctor.....Obama lied, big time. But most turn blind eye to all what Obama did, or didn't do, just like the media and all who believe what CNN say as gospel.
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    jbohoh7 wrote: »

    All tax cuts favor the rich, no way of getting around that. Btw, system knows that's its the rich/investors, who create jobs, not poor or middle class. Who in turn pay taxes to fund social services. Can't penalize them for that.

    Yes, they create jobs... elsewhere (in India, Pakistan, China), not in the "rich countries" (like the US, the EU and so on. Because it's cheaper to build their products there than here. Especially when it comes to paying the workers. Plus, tax cuts never benefited the middle class. And I'm talking from experience here. How many times have I seen a tax cut which I thought was going to lead to a lowering of the price of something, only to realize that the price didn't get any lower in the end ?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.

    That applies to everyone, not just Trump. Time you moved on, you're now straying to far out...of this thread.

    Well that's pretty rude. No wonder you're a Trumpista.
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?

    How so? Tax cuts targeted at the wealthy will do it every time. Oops, we've got no $ for social services (or even to pay Veterans' benefits) -- it's all going to Trump & his billionaire buddies.

    Not being rude, just your misinterpretation.

    All tax cuts favor the rich, no way of getting around that. Btw, system knows that's its the rich/investors, who create jobs, not poor or middle class. Who in turn pay taxes to fund social services. Can't penalize them for that.

    Untrue, but then so is everything else you say. Trump PROMISED that his tax cuts would favor the middle class & hurt the rich. He lied.

    He reduced the tax rates, that's a fact. He never said "hurt the rich". That's making stuff up to vent your sore loss, for Hillary. Unlike "you can keep your doctor.....Obama lied, big time. But most turn blind eye to all what Obama did, or didn't do, just like the media and all who believe what CNN say as gospel.

    Anything that didn't come to pass regarding Obamacare came from the right fighting peopels' rights to afford health care. That's not a lie. You should stop taking what Fox News says as gospel.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 3,566
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Trump is Elliot Carver in all but name. Power mad megolmaniac. I just hope he doesn't bump his wife off.

    I do see your correlation, Elliot Carver was pro-media, and so is Trump hehehe

    Hence he calls anything unflattering to himself "fake news" at best and "the enemy of the people" at worst. Free speech is his enemy, not the people's.

    I do see your correlation with, what Trump calls "fake news". Unfortunately, "fake news" has been around since "news" was created. Trump is old and rich enough to call it out and challenge false/biased reporting solely designed for boosting ratings and airtime (a la Elliot Carver). Remember how unfairly 'journalists' treated the likes of Princess Diana, and Michael Jackson, for decades, just to name a few. And they got away with it. Not what I'd classify as the 'peoples news'.

    And thus the false and biased news in his favor is right because it paints over the truth.

    That applies to everyone, not just Trump. Time you moved on, you're now straying to far out...of this thread.

    Well that's pretty rude. No wonder you're a Trumpista.
    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Tripled debt? how so? calculation please?

    How so? Tax cuts targeted at the wealthy will do it every time. Oops, we've got no $ for social services (or even to pay Veterans' benefits) -- it's all going to Trump & his billionaire buddies.

    Not being rude, just your misinterpretation.

    All tax cuts favor the rich, no way of getting around that. Btw, system knows that's its the rich/investors, who create jobs, not poor or middle class. Who in turn pay taxes to fund social services. Can't penalize them for that.

    Untrue, but then so is everything else you say. Trump PROMISED that his tax cuts would favor the middle class & hurt the rich. He lied.

    He reduced the tax rates, that's a fact. He never said "hurt the rich". That's making stuff up to vent your sore loss, for Hillary. Unlike "you can keep your doctor.....Obama lied, big time. But most turn blind eye to all what Obama did, or didn't do, just like the media and all who believe what CNN say as gospel.

    One problem with Trump is that his lies are consistently inconsistent. He just pulls whatever nonsense feels right at the time out of his @$$ and states it as if it were fact, and Faux Fox News just says "yupyupyup..." and after a while it's hard to keep up with which lie was which. Nonetheless, it is stone cold fact, that at several points in the recent past, Trump has promised that his tax plans would benefit the middle class at the expense of himself and people like him. Here's one link back to 2017 with DJT claiming he'd be hurt by his own tax plan: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-says-the-gop-tax-plan-would-make-him-a-big-loser-prove-it/2017/11/09/c34570d8-c4be-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html?utm_term=.3deec63d1515
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    This thread is becoming toxic
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 7,507
    The American naivity in trusting the goodwill of rich business owners is almost charming. We are talking about people that make fortunes out of greed and who demonstrate a clear cynicism in running their businesses, yet people genuinly believe that if they just get those sweet tax cuts they have been asking for they will suddenly get a rush of immense compassion and rase vages and invest in welfare for the workers they previously neglected. A connection between tax cuts for big businesses and economical growth has never been proved, yet it is stated as fact. It is fascinating how people have sucumbed to the ideology of the rich and powerful, idolizing them and putting their lives in their hands.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Donald Trump

    Best case for Enlightened Thinking.
    Like how an STD is the best case for the use of condoms.
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