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Your favourite US President ....and why ?

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  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    This thread is becoming toxic

    Thats what happens to political threads.
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
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    jbohoh7 wrote: »
    Gonna take a lot of flack for this, but, in my lifetime, gotta say Donald Trump. 5 reasons why:

    5) Didn't have to cheat to get the nomination. DNC cheated big time for Hillary. Poor Bernie and all his supporters and donors, time and money spent, never had a chance from the very beginning.
    4) Not a rapist, like ole Billy boy.
    3) Promises made, promises kept.
    2) Hasn't doubled the debt of all previous presidents Combined, and has nothing to show for it. Yes, Great Obama, talking about you.
    1) Not a slimy lawyer/politician. Maybe, a slimy business man, but there is good reason why lawyers and politicians rank at the bottom of the occupational scale.

    So... your entire reasoning, just like every other Trump supporter, is comprised of whataboutisms. Brilliant.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
    edited November 2018 Posts: 3,566
    Careful, you're just stirring (not shaking) up the toxicity around here...
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Only Nixon could go to China.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Yes, but Nixon was half-way sane.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    The Trump troll has arrived and his comments have added nothing to any 007 discussion only to politics. Here is one to block asap, while I can accept stupidity in opinions certainly political ones. This is a James Bond forum first and prove your existence firstly in those threads and don't come trumping us with your ridiculous views on politics.

    So talk 007 first or please go away. We have enough hotheads with views on anything 007 that talk politics, I rather read their opinions.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Only Nixon could go to China.

    Y'know, that line -- being used in a Star Trek movie made in the '80s but supposedly set hundreds of years in the future -- always bugged me. It's like somebody today using an aphorism about something only the Duke of York could do, and everybody around automatically getting the reference. It just didn't work for me and totally brought me out of the fiction of that movie, into the (then-) modern day reality. "The needs of the many," I suppose...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    It is a thread on politics, so yes there will be politics on here.
    007 threads abound. Any time a political thread is opened there will be strong disagreement.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    It is a thread on politics, so yes there will be politics on here.
    007 threads abound. Any time a political thread is opened there will be strong disagreement.

    But at least those disagreements are channelled into a separate thread, that nobody who does not care about those disputes has to follow if he/she does not want to. It's a bit of a lightning rod, and as long as actual "James Bond" threads remain untouched, fine with me
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    I try to lighten up the politics threads by leavening them with pop culture references whenever possible.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    Obama and Trump. The two men who stopped Hillary.

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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Obama and Trump. The two men who stopped Hillary.

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    You're not saying that Trump has muscles like that. And don't even try to show an exchange of brains.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    See? Original post was just asking who is your favorite U.S. president and why.
    But that is about politics. So this goes off and becomes the usual political back and forth, with strong statements and memes and everything. We have a politics thread within the World Events thread. I just like it contained there, personally.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    See? Original post was just asking who is your favorite U.S. president and why.
    But that is about politics. So this goes off and becomes the usual political back and forth, with strong statements and memes and everything. We have a politics thread within the World Events thread. I just like it contained there, personally.

    Yeah I think of this as being the more dignified of the threads , where the old boys can sit back and have a chat but it’s become a cesspool
  • ringfire211ringfire211
    edited November 2018 Posts: 654
    Reagan, Reagan, and again Reagan!! No contest. Did I mention Reagan?

    Reagan, Ronald Reagan.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Reagan, Reagan, and again Reagan!! No contest. Did I mention Reagan?

    Reagan, Ronald Reagan.

    Well.......there you go again.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Reagan, Reagan, and again Reagan!! No contest. Did I mention Reagan?

    Reagan, Ronald Reagan.

    Well.......there you go again.

    Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Good one, Beatles!
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Thankyaverramuch.
  • ringfire211ringfire211
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    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Reagan, Reagan, and again Reagan!! No contest. Did I mention Reagan?

    Reagan, Ronald Reagan.

    Well.......there you go again.
    Did you cock your head ever so slightly when you said that? With a big grin on your face? :)

    God I miss Ronnie. The only president I can think of who, when you watched him speak, made you want to strive to be a better person. A class act all the way. Those were the days... Of course the 80s is also my favorite decade. I was born in 1980, exactly 7 days after Ronnie won the election.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    ringfire211 wrote: »
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote: »
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Reagan, Reagan, and again Reagan!! No contest. Did I mention Reagan?

    Reagan, Ronald Reagan.

    Well.......there you go again.
    Did you cock your head ever so slightly when you said that? With a big grin on your face? :)

    God I miss Ronnie. The only president I can think of who, when you watched him speak, made you want to strive to be a better person. A class act all the way. Those were the days... Of course the 80s is also my favorite decade. I was born in 1980, exactly 7 days after Ronnie won the election.

    Reagan was a great face on a pig of an administration. He was responsible for PR, and nothing else. Which is why I liked him, despite the evils of the era.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Gerald Ford was underrated. He was a goof, but he was honest with the American people and told them to move on from Richard Nixon. He risked his own career for the betterment of the country.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Carter is a decent man and accomplished some good things. He certainly has had the most philanthropic, helpful, and kind post presidency, in my opinion. And hey being a "decent man" is no small matter. How important that is, so obvious in the years since he left the office.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    Carter is a decent man and accomplished some good things. He certainly has had the most philanthropic, helpful, and kind post presidency, in my opinion. And hey being a "decent man" is no small matter. How important that is, so obvious in the years since he left the office.

    I like Carter as well. Both men were fair and honest with America and her people. It's a shame either man didn't get to serve longer. Honest politicians like these two men are rare these days.
  • JamesStockJamesStock
    edited November 2018 Posts: 572
    So if I had to pick one in my lifetime (which is rather quite limiting), I hate to say it, but I'm with jbohoh7. I am NOT a fan of Trump's tactics, but the tenure so far does seem to be producing decent results. I like the fact that he has directly addressed the hot potato politics that have been ignored for ages like trade and immigration. That said, we'll see how it goes when the gridlock sets in.

    Obama has done nothing but harm my family's personal situation (primarily the impact on small business owners due to the ACA, among other things) so I am going to be extremely biased there.

    I feel like Bush was a super honest guy, but he felt like a puppet and didn't really do anything except get us in a forever war with the middle east.

    Clinton...well, to put it bluntly, was riding on high times so he had it easy. The thing that gets me is his push for globalism has really caused the slow degradation of the US economy. Perhaps unforeseeable at the time, but I hate it now.

    I'm clearly influenced right now by what globalism has done to my region (heavy manufacturing area), hence my liking for Trump, but hopefully for some of you who reside on the other side of the fence can at least partially appreciate the sentiment...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    "Decent results". OK, I just disagree on that for sure (never mind his personality), but thanks for saying who your favorite president is and why. :)
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    I too will disagree with anyone who likes Trump...and I'll leave it at that. What I'm here for at the moment is to put in a good word for the most respectable Republican to hold the office of President in my lifetime: Dwight D. Eisenhower. I LIKE Ike. I really do.

    I was born in 1954 so I was never really aware of him, or presidential politics in general, until 1960, with JFK and Tricky Dick...but looking back on his tenure, and the way he handled himself and the country as a whole...damn, I wish the guy in the office now was 1/10th as decent as Eisenhower.
  • jobojobo
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    JamesStock wrote: »
    So if I had to pick one in my lifetime (which is rather quite limiting), I hate to say it, but I'm with jbohoh7. I am NOT a fan of Trump's tactics, but the tenure so far does seem to be producing decent results. I like the fact that he has directly addressed the hot potato politics that have been ignored for ages like trade and immigration. That said, we'll see how it goes when the gridlock sets in.

    Obama has done nothing but harm my family's personal situation (primarily the impact on small business owners due to the ACA, among other things) so I am going to be extremely biased there.

    I feel like Bush was a super honest guy, but he felt like a puppet and didn't really do anything except get us in a forever war with the middle east.

    Clinton...well, to put it bluntly, was riding on high times so he had it easy. The thing that gets me is his push for globalism has really caused the slow degradation of the US economy. Perhaps unforeseeable at the time, but I hate it now.

    I'm clearly influenced right now by what globalism has done to my region (heavy manufacturing area), hence my liking for Trump, but hopefully for some of you who reside on the other side of the fence can at least partially appreciate the sentiment...


    Ehm... So what you are saying is that the ACA hurt your small family business? Please tell me how that works...? ;))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    jobo wrote: »


    Ehm... So what you are saying is that the ACA hurt your small family business? Please tell me how that works...? ;))
    I'm curious how that works as well...
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Eisenhower would have been deemed a hard left socialist in today's crazy world.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Eisenhower would have been deemed a hard left socialist in today's crazy world.

    He tried to warn us about the dangers of The Military/Industrial Complex on his way out the door. As the Supreme Allied Commanding General in WWll one would think he had a specialized knowledge in that field...

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