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One member noted that we should keep the discussions as related to James Bond, as this is a fan website. So I pose a different question, in the same vein as this topic: If James Bond were real, whom do you think he would support, Clinton or Trump, Liberal or Conservative, Brexit or EU ...and why?
Exactly. Any assessment of Bond's politics needs to be considered in that context.
He is conservative in a European perspective. The GOP would be too extreme for him I think.
Yes, exactly. Bond in literature definitely was a euro- conservative. Certainly the bible-thumping extremists in the US would have been seen as distasteful. But I think Fleming’s Bond in general had a rather pessimistic perspective on America. So Hilary and her ilk would not be looked upon favourably either.
Off topic but Anthony Burgess did with ACO, surely.
As for my favourite presidents, difficult choices: FDR, Lincoln, maybe. In my lifetime so far it has been Obama, if only because he's an intellectual and he was the most progressive. And he got Bin Laden. With Trump, I'm discovering virtues to the ones I didn't like, such as Ronald Reagan (I respect his son Ron a lot) and George W. Bush, who with all his flaws had good intentions.
In one of these silly Internet questionnaires asking what American president I would be, I actually got Ulysses Grant. Not sure how he was as POTUS, but as a general of the Union and for his role in the Civil War I'm kind of glad.
Maybe because of the distance: I doubt anyone here lived when he was president. From what you're telling us, it seems that It Can't Happen Here was not so far from reality. I had always thought it was a farfetched novel.
@BeatlesSansEarmuffs At least Grant won a war and as such deserves the monuments he has to his name, if he has any. He had a few accomplishments before his presidency that he could be proud of. And if I'm not mistaken he was himself a decent man.
They would obviously try to distance themselves from it
As for Obama he was too busy talking about gender issues and deciding which bathrooms boys and girls should use. Can you believe it?? Embarrassing! Obama and common sense clearly weren’t on the best of terms.
The worst thing about this president is that he is totally reckless without any filter and he behaves like a buffoon and disrespects the armed forces as shown so many times and the most recent times in France were rain was a reason not to go to a remembrance.
And anybody saying there are good and there are bad Neo-Nazis does not show any insight at all.
The man embodies everything people presume to think about Americans, and they voted for them. And this recent mid terms again.
For sure for sure
A great general and a drinker. My kind of man, regardless of his presidency.
I trust that settles this particular topic. Next?
FDR comes next, because he pulled the country through two of the greatest crises in its history and did so with a jaunty, bigheartedness that gave hope to millions.
My favorite tragic President is Johnson, whose incredible domestic achievements--which could have been the culmination of the New Deal and prevented many of the problems we've recently faced--were dashed by his embrace of the Vietnam War. My favorite evil tragic President is Nixon, a man of great gifts who used them for foul ends (including treason) and destroyed himself with paranoia.
Much like the current defiler occupant of the White House...
Well, judging from what Fleming wrote about Milton Krest and Serrafimo Spang, there are few people he despised more than vulgar American millionaires. What he'd have thought about one with ties to Russia is easily guessed.
Correct. Fleming Bond may've been a snob and pessimistic and concerned about American culture bleeding into the rest of the world, but, ultimately, their values and their people were benign.
Someone with obvious ties with Russia would be malignant. And a very dangerous enemy.
I guess he has a life outside of MI6.
@LeChiffre I'm no fan of Reagan but yes, nobody could question his patriotism and his loyalty. Same with Bush Jr, yes, I was against the war in Iraq but at least Bush did it to remove a dictator and trying to export democracy. The Swine is an admirer of dictators and wants to import dictatorship. He's like a real life John Iselin or Buzz Windrip.
As opposed to the rest of us?
As far as movie Presidents go, I kinda liked the President played by E.G. Marshall in Superman ll.
But left back then is differant to the left now
Not what I was implying.
Only superficially. Yes, we now have the silly college kids who get in the news for their no-platforming antics, but most of the left still has the same policy goals as Johnson (who had planned on universal health care) and Roosevelt. It can even be argued that Obama and Clinton's policies were far less ambitious and more conservative than Johnson or Roosevelt's. And even back then the left was in favor of rights for minorities. True, back then the Far Left was far more openly Marxist and even admired Chairman Mao. But the so-called "Democratic Socialists" of today are basically arguing for a capitalist society with a safety-net along the lines of Denmark, Norway or Sweden.
The Right has some continuity with its past self, but whereas Eisenhower and Nixon were mostly content to let the New Deal and Great Society policies stand (much to the disgust of the far Right), the modern mainstream Right is dedicated to eliminating every trace of these programs and entrusting the country to the same unfettered business interests that created the 2008 financial crisis. As for the modern Far Right, it is a worthy successor to the paranoia of the John Birch Society or those Texas who thought JFK guilty of treason.
You read my mind.