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If the nationality of the character or franchise would be important, Bond would have never been that huge in Germany.
Yes, many germans played bad guys, and with Waltz and Hans Zimmer we have the german connection with NTTD. But no one in Germany would NOT see a british or american movie just because it's not "german" enough.
What a sad world it would be if we only went to see our own nations arts, films and music.
Good point, James Bond was at his box office peak during the Swingin' 60s "British Invasion" era, when UK pop culture in general was considered cool in the US.
Non English speaking countries in Europe don't really have a choice, their domestic market alone is not financially lucrative enough to justify block buster movies with lots of exotic locations, big explosions and GGI, so they have gotten used to having to put up with their cinema being dominated by a foreign language.
The UK has the possibility to resist that to some extent, although Bond is really the only heavy hitter they really have, franchise wise, but a UK or Irish actor can become a star in Hollywood, even if they often have to compromise their accent in order to do so, and appear in films that have no connection to British Isles culture.
Outside of the miraculous Arnold Schwarzenegger I can't recall any Europeans making it to true stardom in the last 50 years
I think it's a sad World when we don't get to see our own nations culture portrayed in films, outside of the low budget art movie / comedy end of the spectrum.
At least that's how it seems to me here in NZ. Russell Crowe won't be making a Kiwi equivalent of "Gladiator" any time soon, Peter Jackson hasn't tried to make a comercial movie set in NZ since "The Frighteners" bombed and though I'm sure Taika Waititi will try to do something with a NZ flavour somewhere down the line, his talent and value will, to a large extent, be lost to NZ culture from here on in. (Not that I'm criticising them as individuals, I would do the same thing in their place. It's just the natural result of the economies of scale involved)
Different story in China now though, and India has always had "Bollywood"
IMO he's a character actor, not a movie star
Conclusion? (A) Covid still has a big impact on the turn-out for us older American movie-goers, and (B) We'll get there eventually. Just ain't a' movin' as fast as we useta....
"I'm going to ignore what's been going on in the world this past year and a half because it supports my agenda."
I mentioned the pandemic.
We'll know after weekend #2. CR's 2nd weekend dipped by only 5% and had in excess of a 4x multiplier. If NTTD drops to 25m, then its US BO has faltered compared to the rest of the world....just get it out to streamers like HBO Max faster.
Figures from a main news website, waiting for the exact figures from movies websites.
Post-pandemic releases best 5 day openings :
NTTD : 1.2M
Fast and Furious 9 : 1.1M
Dune : 878 000
Kaamelott : 837 000 (French movie)
Tenet : 809 000
Black Widow : 702 000
And for those who know OSS 117, the 3rd instalment released a few weeks ago alas suffered from the pandemic and did "only" 580 000
Past Bond French 5 day openings : :
SP : 2M (helped by a holiday in these 5 days)
SF : 1.2M
QOS : 1.3M
CR : 1.1M
But only in a fashion that supported your agenda.
We don't yet know whether or not this one's going to have legs. Let's wait just a little while before forming that conclusion, okay?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7972012/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_rdat
It's my prediction. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Casino Royale had legs because it's a good movie that gets better as it goes along and ends on a high note. Word of mouth kept it going. People who were skeptical about Craig ended up loving him (ironically I was on board with him from the get-go but actually soured on him over time). Everything I've heard- even from those who like it- about NTTD suggests that its first half is better than its second. People were calling CR (and even SF, which I disliked) the best Bond movie ever. I don't see anyone saying that here.
There's already a member who has placed it at #1 in the overall ranking thread and several others, including myself, have it at #2 with an actual chance that it might become #1. Sure sounds like you're just reading what you want to read and pretending anything that goes against your narrative doesn't exist. Just say you didn't like the bloody film and leave it alone.
We believe they've all come from the same computer in a basement in Ipswich.
I agree with this. Quite a few of my geeky movie mates have seen this film now, and after we have watched every Bond film we share our thoughts with each other.
Going purely by the reaction of my circle of friends, this film is definitely not another CR or SF. Some hated it, others just thought it was ok, on a QoS/SP level.
If my small bubble is anything to go by, then this film won't have legs. The ending was a step too far for many. And even worse after nearly a 2 year lockdown and pandemic. Audiences want lifting, and NTTD gives the opposite.
So I think your prediction is spot on, but only time will tell if we are right.
This film will perform well at the BO (I wouldn't expect anything less), but I don't think it will have the goodwill word-of-mouth and legs of CR or SF.
I'm only going by my circle of family and friends, which pretty much often becomes an echo chamber for a wider picture. It doesn't usually stray that far off. CR and SF was universally praised, QoS and SP not so much, and that pretty much echoed my circle at that time.
This time round I am seeing a mixed reaction of just ok, to absolutely hating it. This didn't even happen with QoS and SP. I am glad you like it, and another fan has it as their number 1, but it also sounds like you are reading and believing your own narrative too.
Neither of us are right yet. Time will tell which one will be. Maybe this time my friends and family are completely out of touch now with what audiences go for in 2021. Who knows.