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But the franchise is about as troubled as NTTD is a troubled production.
Uff, absolutely (sadly) :-). How can we get the Bond-franchise into less troubled waters then…….and with it future Bond film productions? :-).
Indeed. A cat has 9 lives. However……not 10 :-). The Bond-franchise is an old franchise and more and more it lacks a certain lean-ness and effectiveness. Sadly….
Likely will outlast us all.
It's the age old tale of good versus evil. How will James Bond save the world this time?
People know what they're in for. I don't think EON or the studio are overly concerned just yet. They know what they're doing.
If the films got to a point where the ROI was so low, they wouldn't be able to make/finance another film.
EON is just taking a different approach, it’s not about being “fed up” with Cubby’s vision, which I honestly do not know where you’re getting that from. EON would rather take their time with the films rather than pump them out as much as humanly possible, and are not really interested in making Bond movies that appeal to families like the old days. Maybe when the next producers take over the franchise we’ll see a different approach closer to Marvel.
That's the thing. EON doesn't take their time. Yes, they take their time to enjoy non-Bond stuff. But they don't plan the production of a new Bond-film as extensively, thus, with more time (years), as opposed to, for instance, "Wonder Woman 1984" or "Mission: Impossible - Falout". The road towards production (full pre-production) of a Bond-film is way (too) short(er) as compared to other blockbusters/action films. Yes, Craig announced exactly 2 years ago that he would be back. But until Danny Boyle joined as director nothing had been done script-wise. Neal Purvis & Robert Wade even admitted early 2018 that they didn't have any inspiration, because villains became to real (WTF :-O, Ian Fleming would have loved today's geopolitical climate!).
Not to mention the fact that EON isn't planning ahead a bit further into the future with regard to contracting a director and a writer. It was one of the reasons why Denis Villeneuve couldn't commit, Danny Boyle became the 2nd choice and, in essence, Cary Fukunaga became some kind of 'emergency fixer' or 3rd choice director.
I.....just don't get this. I just don't. Between november 2015 and august 2017 the only thing EON did was having a breaks. For personal reasons (Michael and Barbara love the stuff they do for Film Trusts and Tate Modern), but also for focussing in real Harry Saltzman-esque way on other non-Bond EON-films. In this intermediate period EON could have focused entirely on securing a new distribution deal, while at the same time working hard as early as 2016 with a director and writer to come up with the groundwork of Bond 25. They didn't.
Still, NTTD can turn out a masterpiece. Despite the sad notion that Cary is a 3rd choice, he's one hell of a director who knows how to work under stress. So my complaints are not on Cary. On the contrary. But Barbara, Michael...….why :-S. Please…...as soon as NTTD has premiered go work your buts off finding a new Bond-actor (this will be Craig's last) and start pre-production during the spring/summer of 2020. Please!
Also in retrospect: let's compare "Mission: Impossible - Fallout" with "SPECTRE":
--> Filming of "SPECTRE" officially commenced December 8thth 2014 and premiered only 11 months later, November 2015.
--> Filming of "M:I - Fallout" officially commenced April 8th 2017 and premiered a mere 15 months later, July 2018. Several salary negotiation delays and ankle injuries included.
I mean, it's all about planning. EON makes it unnecessarily complicated by planning badly. Just have little more excruciatingly long in-between breaks, focus bit less on non-Bond EON productions, and…...plan better!
But a good discussion about our beloved franchise is never bad :-). You call it "campaigning against the filmmakers". I call it "rooting for the Bond-franchise". And deep inside I think the filmmakers have that opinion too ;-).
Now let me be clear, I'm now foremost rooting for a big critically and financially acclaimed success of "No Time To Die". We barely know a thing of the plot. Although I have a gut-feeling Rami Malek is gonna play a memorable Dr. Julius No...Time To Die (no pun intended ;-) hehe).
And let’s be honest, the I:M films are making films at a faster rate at this time because Tom Cruise knows he can’t do this forever, and that’s why he’s doing a back to back deal. Prior to FALLOUT, he was only making the films every four to six years on his own pace. Now that he’s much older Paramount wants to milk as much before he bows out, and IMO to the detriment as I’m not even that big of a fan of FALLOUT and the series abandoning the concept of featuring a new director like with movies 1-5.
Very well said! As soon as they start serializing the Bonds, pushing them off the assembly line one after the other, the magic will be gone.
Massive +1.
Agreed. Thankfully EON get this. The wider audience doesn’t expect Bond to be an omnipotent presence ala Disney.
@GertGettler - your post is littered with factual inaccuracies and conjecture. To say no work had been done pre-Boyle is incorrect. I know of a writer who was contacted as early as 2016 to work on what would be B25.
I get you’re annoyed but let’s get some perspective in here. The cinematic landscape has changed dramatically since the Cubby days and they’ve had to retool to accommodate that.
Besides, this same argument has been ongoing from a certain subsection of the fan base for years. One things for sure, no amount of bleating on here or anywhere else will change it. It really is a case of getting used to it and enjoying what we do get or, sadly, moving on.
"Thank you, dear wife, for giving me three such beautiful children. Now, when is the next one coming? Not until a few years from now? I'm sorry that's unacceptable! You're an incompetent wife and I should probably divorce you."
Twenty-four movies, with a twenty-fifth one coming up soon, and still people get in a temper tantrum... Because the twenty-fifth didn't come soon enough... Go figure.
“Unhappiness is a contagious disease caused by a chronic deficiency of gratitude.”
(M. Mokhonoana)
Fine wine I like it
The anticipation of finding out the title,catching short video clips,announcements and just general chit chat about what the film will be,is half of the fun and 2-3 years means this can happen .
Any earlier and the quality will drop as will the level of interest and enthusiasm from all concerned - viewing public,actors,crew etc .
Bond is an EVENT.
If you wanna interpret that as them spitting on the fans and on Cubby’s grave, whatever man.
Agreed on everything. Brocolli and Wilson may be stupid rich, but their heart is in the right place. They are still going after quality before quantity, control instead of selling out, keeping it within the family rather than letting too many suits ruin the business. I firmly believe that to them it's much more a family heirloom than it is a "franchise". Coca Cola is a franchise. Disney owns many franchises. But EON's Bond, while a guaranteed money-making machine, is first and foremost a legacy that still manages to negotiate the obstacles and traps of the modern film business. People complain about Barbara listening to Craig like he owns her. Even if that's true, it has so far done them more good than bad, given the overall quality of the Craig era Bonds. What frustrates some is that Craig, according to them, keeps EON from making many more Bond films in 14 years than a mere 5. I don't think that's the complete picture, though. It's not like Craig is very busy otherwise, or overbooked. His career outside the Bond series isn't hitting too many high bars. Whatever Craig's own temper, he too benefits from a few more Bonds on his resumé. I have given up arguing with the cynics, but I honestly think a lot of views on the EON-Craig business plans and mission statements are lacking in nuance and data.