NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I guess I rate as general audience. Cool.

    Then I’m in good company @RichardTheBruce , 😂!
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2022 Posts: 4,343
    The final total in the UK is a whooping £98M.

    Let’s see if Avatar 2 will top that.

    But let’s not forget it came out when COVID was still a thing and that without an early digital release it would’ve bested SF. In a few words, NTTD smashed it.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    No Way Home was a lot of fun. Nothing but respect for what they did with the Marvel films in the run-up to Infinity War/Endgame. Seriously, a 25+ film run with a 2-film ending that actually satisfied? Impressive. Not really any interest in the MCU anymore, but I am looking forward to Deadpool + Wolverine.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @NickTwentyTwo ...and now that Wolverine is back from the dead WITH the same actor in the role, I'm expecting Daniel Craig to be cast as the new James Bond for B26
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Yeah and the other thing is Deadpool always breaks the fourth wall so he'll almost certainly refer to Wolverine as Hugh Jackman... how does in-universe Wolverine respond to that?
    It'll be crazy.
  • peter wrote: »
    @NickTwentyTwo ...and now that Wolverine is back from the dead WITH the same actor in the role, I'm expecting Daniel Craig to be cast as the new James Bond for B26

    I heard B26 opens with a scorched/skeletal Craig Bond walking into M’s office for his next mission.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    peter wrote: »
    @NickTwentyTwo ...and now that Wolverine is back from the dead WITH the same actor in the role, I'm expecting Daniel Craig to be cast as the new James Bond for B26

    I heard B26 opens with a scorched/skeletal Craig Bond walking into M’s office for his next mission.

    To be the relief of many fans who can’t seem to grasp what the nature of a reboot is. I never get tired of seeing those folks on social media commenting “but they killed him! How does it make sense that he’ll be back when he’s dead?!”
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    peter wrote: »
    @NickTwentyTwo ...and now that Wolverine is back from the dead WITH the same actor in the role, I'm expecting Daniel Craig to be cast as the new James Bond for B26

    I heard B26 opens with a scorched/skeletal Craig Bond walking into M’s office for his next mission.

    To be the relief of many fans who can’t seem to grasp what the nature of a reboot is. I never get tired of seeing those folks on social media commenting “but they killed him! How does it make sense that he’ll be back when he’s dead?!”

    I bet those are also the same people who haven't quite been able to figure out how Dench's M managed to travel through time.
  • They’re also the same people on social media who seem to take no issue in accepting the fact that each new screen iteration of Batman has been a reboot. The general audiences lack of knowledge when it comes to Bond kind of staggers me a bit at times.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I think general audiences are more savvier than certain Bond circles. Bond is an anomaly that hasn’t had to go through the same kind of phases as other franchise where completely different filmmakers have their own take on the material without some steward overseeing everything.

    A friend of mine was only casually familiar with Bond, and she assumed with each actor the series rebooted itself, or at least soft rebooted as we saw with the Burton and Schumacher Batman films where certain actors carried over across the films but for the most part they’re not continuity heavy
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited October 2022 Posts: 24,311
    I've heard people say that the Dalton Bond was a soft reboot. I think it doesn't matter in the end. I have always viewed the films as standalone adventures, with only a marginal continuity at best. Some elements (Jaws, Gogol, ...) come back for the sake of convenience or to please us, but the films have no immediate ties between them otherwise. The Craigs were the first films to introduce a deep and consistent continuity as films. They form a "continuity block", a continent surrounded by an ocean full of separate islands. The next film will no longer play on this continent. And that's fine. Audiences will manage. They make abstractions of the Bond character anyway. There's a guy called Bond in every Bond film. We know him from previous films, but we rarely care what happened to him in those previous films.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Thanks to the re-release NTTD achieves another milestone hitting the £98M mark at the UK boxoffice. The bad news for Bond is that SP is no longer in the top 5 since Avatar, thanks to the 4K re-release, bested it with a £95.8M updated total.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Given the complicated circumstances behind NTTD release - with Covid-19 protocols still in place, being the first real theatrical event post a 18 months hiatus within a super crowded October/November and suffering from an older demographic less inclined to enter a packed move theater - I’m shocked that internationally (without counting China given the fact that half of Western films were banned there) only Spider-Man and Maverick grossed more than our beloved 60 years old hero. If we count China as well JW3: Dominion bested NTTD only by a dozen millions.

    That’s kinda crazy.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    You’re talking about properties that have always been more popular than Bond. The original 1986 film blew away Bond films of the past and contemporary era. SPIDER-MAN, at least with Maguire and Holland, were bigger than Bond.

    I don’t think the comparison sticks. It would be like saying THUNDERBALL’s box office was unimpressive compared to THE SOUND OF MUSIC and DOCTOR ZHIVAGO.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    My point is that NTTD did absolutely great and it is not just about being popular: people liked it.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    You’re talking about properties that have always been more popular than Bond. The original 1986 film blew away Bond films of the past and contemporary era. SPIDER-MAN, at least with Maguire and Holland, were bigger than Bond.

    I don’t think the comparison sticks. It would be like saying THUNDERBALL’s box office was unimpressive compared to THE SOUND OF MUSIC and DOCTOR ZHIVAGO.

    I think you misread the point, NTTD did excellent for everything going on, IN comparison to some heavyweight properties Bond is at the level of, is what's being said.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Exactly. NTTD’s international performance proved to be absolutely great.
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    I am beginning to believe that NTTD is the best looking Craig film. Better than Skyfall. Yes.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Contemporary assessment.

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    Daniel Craig Bond film hailed 'best of all time' is on TV
    for New Year's Eve

    Daniel Craig's final outing as James Bond was a box office smash and was widely praised by viewers, with some even hailing it the 'best Bond film of all time'
    By Kimberly Nhundu 31 DEC 2024
    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/tv/daniel-craig-bond-film-hailed-34400429
    2_Daniel-Craig-James-Bond-No-time-to-die.jpg
    Daniel Craig's No Time To Die has been hailed the 'best' 007 film (Image: MGM)
    The New Year's Eve TV schedule includes a treat for James Bond fans, as a film rated 10/10 by fans is set to be broadcasted.

    The Daniel Craig-led motion picture will grace screens on New Year's Eve at 8:45 pm on ITV1 and can also be enjoyed on the streaming platform ITVX.

    No Time to Die, which signalled the departure of Daniel Craig from his tenure as 007, boasts a talented cast featuring Rami Malek, Lashana Lynch, Ana de Armas, and Lea Seydoux. Under Cary Joji Fukunaga's direction, audiences join the suave spy shortly following his retirement from MI6.

    Yet, duty calls Bond back into action when an old ally entices him into undertaking one more prominent mission, reports the Manchester Evening News.
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    It is Daniel Craig's last appearance as James Bond
    The movie enjoyed great success upon its release, amassing an impressive worldwide total of $774 million at the box office and garnering acclaim for its fitting farewell to its leading man.

    With a positive nod from Rotten Tomatoes with an 83% rating, critics agreed that while not the "sleekest or most daring" entry in the series, "No Time to Die concludes Daniel Craig's franchise tenure in satisfying style."

    The Oscars too gave a nod to the film's excellence, bestowing the Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures accolade on Billie Eilish's theme song for the feature.

    Echoing professional reviews, cinema-goers dubbed it the 'best Bond film'. One fan writing an IMDB review titled: 'The best Bond film for all the reasons I never expected!' exclaimed: "Utterly brilliant from start to finish, threw everything you didn't expect at us, Bond showed a completely different side to himself and came out of his shell - never a dull moment and has you on the edge of your seat from start to finish! 10/10."
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    No Time To Die won rave reviews (Image: Handout/MGM)
    Another viewer shared their cinema experience: "We watched this at the cinema today. I've been a life long fan of Bond but I have to say, Craig's performances and portrayal of 007 have been brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. It was the swan song that he deserved, that his loyal fans deserved. The sadness, the wit, action and legendary Bond appeal for all generations to watch."

    Meanwhile, a third enthusiast added: "This film has it all and is the best of the best and a fitting end to DC's tenure. This is from a person who has been Bond obsessed for 48 of his 56 years."

    Catch No Time To Die on New Year's Eve at 8:45 PM on ITV1
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  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,518
    Contemporary assessment.

    Daily_Record_logo.svg

    Daniel Craig Bond film hailed 'best of all time' is on TV
    for New Year's Eve

    Daniel Craig's final outing as James Bond was a box office smash and was widely praised by viewers, with some even hailing it the 'best Bond film of all time'
    By Kimberly Nhundu 31 DEC 2024
    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/tv/daniel-craig-bond-film-hailed-34400429
    2_Daniel-Craig-James-Bond-No-time-to-die.jpg
    Daniel Craig's No Time To Die has been hailed the 'best' 007 film (Image: MGM)
    The New Year's Eve TV schedule includes a treat for James Bond fans, as a film rated 10/10 by fans is set to be broadcasted.

    The Daniel Craig-led motion picture will grace screens on New Year's Eve at 8:45 pm on ITV1 and can also be enjoyed on the streaming platform ITVX.

    No Time to Die, which signalled the departure of Daniel Craig from his tenure as 007, boasts a talented cast featuring Rami Malek, Lashana Lynch, Ana de Armas, and Lea Seydoux. Under Cary Joji Fukunaga's direction, audiences join the suave spy shortly following his retirement from MI6.

    Yet, duty calls Bond back into action when an old ally entices him into undertaking one more prominent mission, reports the Manchester Evening News.
    2_JS246440083.jpg
    It is Daniel Craig's last appearance as James Bond
    The movie enjoyed great success upon its release, amassing an impressive worldwide total of $774 million at the box office and garnering acclaim for its fitting farewell to its leading man.

    With a positive nod from Rotten Tomatoes with an 83% rating, critics agreed that while not the "sleekest or most daring" entry in the series, "No Time to Die concludes Daniel Craig's franchise tenure in satisfying style."

    The Oscars too gave a nod to the film's excellence, bestowing the Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures accolade on Billie Eilish's theme song for the feature.

    Echoing professional reviews, cinema-goers dubbed it the 'best Bond film'. One fan writing an IMDB review titled: 'The best Bond film for all the reasons I never expected!' exclaimed: "Utterly brilliant from start to finish, threw everything you didn't expect at us, Bond showed a completely different side to himself and came out of his shell - never a dull moment and has you on the edge of your seat from start to finish! 10/10."
    1_Best-bond-on-TV.jpg
    No Time To Die won rave reviews (Image: Handout/MGM)
    Another viewer shared their cinema experience: "We watched this at the cinema today. I've been a life long fan of Bond but I have to say, Craig's performances and portrayal of 007 have been brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. It was the swan song that he deserved, that his loyal fans deserved. The sadness, the wit, action and legendary Bond appeal for all generations to watch."

    Meanwhile, a third enthusiast added: "This film has it all and is the best of the best and a fitting end to DC's tenure. This is from a person who has been Bond obsessed for 48 of his 56 years."

    Catch No Time To Die on New Year's Eve at 8:45 PM on ITV1
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    Oh, dear! Please don’t report this to @Mendes4Lyfe , because his fear is the last two Craig entries just weren’t aging well. Especially Bond 25– the film so bad that he can’t utter the proper title, 😂.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    @peter didn’t you get the memo? We’re supposed to pretend NTTD is universally regarded as the worst Bond film ever made. Pay no attention to the professional critics, audience reactions, and box office numbers.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Fellas, you're missing the point:
    Bond 25 is a Box office disaster waiting to happen, and just leave it at that.
    (2018)

    And so it was always going to be a bomb.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @peter didn’t you get the memo? We’re supposed to pretend NTTD is universally regarded as the worst Bond film ever made. Pay no attention to the professional critics, audience reactions, and box office numbers.

    😂 😂 😂
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Fellas, you're missing the point:
    Bond 25 is a Box office disaster waiting to happen, and just leave it at that.
    (2018)

    And so it was always going to be a bomb.

    …and some things never change… six-seven years of saying the same thing over and over and over… What’s the definition of madness again?

    In 2018 this guy obviously wanted “B25” to fail…and six years later, when the film is now, definitively, a success during very challenging times, this guy ignores reality, gloms onto a single post to prove the lie he keeps telling himself.

    🤯
  • edited January 1 Posts: 4,377
    The first page of this thread is quite interesting. It just shows how little any of us really know about the future of this franchise (even just for the fact no one in 2018 could have predicted things like Boyle departing and Covid! Even then NTTD outdid most people's expectations. The only thing that has a bit of truth in it is the idea of Bond not being as big in North America, but even then it still outdid expectations). I know it's not everyone's favourite Bond movie here (it isn't mine either) but I can't deny it did well, especially under the circumstances.

    It's quite nice to know none of us can predict the future anyway.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    007HallY wrote: »
    The first page of this thread is quite interesting. It just shows how little any of us really know about the future of this franchise (even just for the fact no one in 2018 could have predicted things like Boyle departing and Covid! Even then NTTD outdid most people's expectations. The only thing that has a bit of truth in it is the idea of Bond not being as big in North America, but even then it still outdid expectations).

    It's quite nice to know none of us can predict the future anyway.

    I disagree. People can predict the future . Some will be correct and some won’t be. Some will have guessed and been correct due to luck, others may have a better sense of the business and got it right, and some who understand the biz may predict things that never turn out to be correct.

    But we can all predict the future.

    But it’s worrisome that a certain person ignoresthe actual history and success of something.

    At one point we have a fella who, by his own posts, wanted the failure of a film (he was an opponent three years before the thing was released), and now that the years have gone by and we can actually measure its *general* success (without even bringing up the obstacles it confronted on its release), this guy now claims the film is, as he feared, aging poorly.

    Now to him it might be. That’s his opinion. But to state this, as he always does, as objective fact is pretty telling.

    🤷‍♂️
  • edited January 1 Posts: 4,377
    peter wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    The first page of this thread is quite interesting. It just shows how little any of us really know about the future of this franchise (even just for the fact no one in 2018 could have predicted things like Boyle departing and Covid! Even then NTTD outdid most people's expectations. The only thing that has a bit of truth in it is the idea of Bond not being as big in North America, but even then it still outdid expectations).

    It's quite nice to know none of us can predict the future anyway.

    I disagree. People can predict the future . Some will be correct and some won’t be. Some will have guessed and been correct due to luck, others may have a better sense of the business and got it right, and some who understand the biz may predict things that never turn out to be correct.

    But we can all predict the future.

    But it’s worrisome that a certain person ignoresthe actual history and success of something.

    At one point we have a fella who, by his own posts, wanted the failure of a film (he was an opponent three years before the thing was released), and now that the years have gone by and we can actually measure its *general* success (without even bringing up the obstacles it confronted on its release), this guy now claims the film is, as he feared, aging poorly.

    Now to him it might be. That’s his opinion. But to state this, as he always does, as objective fact is pretty telling.

    🤷‍♂️

    Perhaps I should have said 'predict the future with 100% accuracy', or simply put 'see into the future'. You're right, if some have a better sense of audiences and the film industry, or are simply lucky in their instincts, they can get certain things right with hindsight. But I guess what I'm trying to say is none of us know exactly what's going to happen with these films, and often we'll be wrong about something (again, no one in 2018 could have known about Covid, and to a lesser extent Boyle). We'll all be wrong about something.

    But yes, I get what you're saying. If you manifest a dislike of a film beforehand you can potentially find any reason to... well, dislike it, even in hindsight. And if the film has done well to any degree/had an impact on audiences, one person's public critique isn't going to change that (especially as limited as it is to this forum). But anyway, I've gotten into too many discussions about all this, haha. I'll leave it at I'm glad NTTD was, by and large, successful. Bond will have things to tackle going foreword, but I think the franchise is in a much better place than many people believe it is. Hopefully these issues with Amazon will resolve in the near future, but we'll see.
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It is aging well for me, there's something about it which I'm enjoying more as time passes.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    It is aging well for me, there's something about it which I'm enjoying more as time passes.

    That holds for most of Craig's Bonds for me. After CR, many were not love at first sight (except SP, if you can believe it), but I still liked them very much. A few viewings later, however, they all quickly climbed in my ranking, especially QOS and SF, which I now regard with the highest of praise.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    The American numbers aren’t surprising. Bond does not feel like a big deal in the states compared to other international countries.
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