NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Most vulnerable people will be vaccinated by April, to me it sounds like bond could be the first big cinematic experience that people will feel comfortable going to the theatre for.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Dutch cinema's closed 3 weaks longer till 09 February 2021 insteed of 19 January 2021.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited January 2021 Posts: 8,395
    Most vulnerable people will be vaccinated by April, to me it sounds like bond could be the first big cinematic experience that people will feel comfortable going to the theatre for.

    You can still help transmit the virus even after you've gotten the vaccine.

    I think there are lots of people who won't feel happy going to a cinema for a long Time to come, that's why perhaps 2022 is the safer option at this point.
  • edited January 2021 Posts: 3,333
    Most vulnerable people will be vaccinated by April, to me it sounds like bond could be the first big cinematic experience that people will feel comfortable going to the theatre for.

    You can still help transmit the virus even after you've gotten the vaccine.

    I think there are lots of people who won't feel happy going to a cinema for a long Time to come, that's why perhaps 2022 is the safer option at this point.
    I've only been gone for a few months and @Mendes4Lyfe has become the wise sage of the forums. I absolutely agree with what you're saying @Mendes4Lyfe.
  • edited January 2021 Posts: 2,436
    Most vulnerable people will be vaccinated by April, to me it sounds like bond could be the first big cinematic experience that people will feel comfortable going to the theatre for.

    You can still help transmit the virus even after you've gotten the vaccine.

    I think there are lots of people who won't feel happy going to a cinema for a long Time to come, that's why perhaps 2022 is the safer option at this point.

    Yes, but the vaccines will reduce the number of hospital admissions and deaths. They will also ensure herd immunity - by then the threat is really no greater than flu. If everything goes well with the vaccines Nov 2021 is very viable.
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    Walecs wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    EON is betting that things will be better in April.

    That is not a good bet.

    This.

    November 2021. All in. ~O)

    it will be October 2022 bank on it
  • Risico007 wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    EON is betting that things will be better in April.

    That is not a good bet.

    This.

    November 2021. All in. ~O)

    it will be October 2022 bank on it

    Not unrealistic! If by November were not 'back to normal', then April '22 is also as unlikely. Oct/Nov 2022 I could see. "Always in motion is the future."
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    April 2020 might well be too early, but I do expect a realease will be possible by autumn.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    If EON was willing to skip out on a 2007 release by pushing CR a few months, they'll skip out on the 60th anniversary as well.
  • If EON was willing to skip out on a 2007 release by pushing CR a few months, they'll skip out on the 60th anniversary as well.

    Conversely they were flirting with the idea of filming CR and its follow up back to back (Peter Lamont wrote about this in his The Man with the Golden Eye book) suggesting they maybe were really trying to aim for a release in the 007 year of 2007.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I remember that, and as I recall, that pretty much didn't last long as a conversation because of how impractical it was timing wise.

    Cubby could have pushed FYEO back by a year so to allow it to come out on the 20th anniversary of the franchise. Would have been a hell of a publicity, but thankfully he didn't see the point. IIRC, that's pretty much why DAD waited 3 years so they could do it on the 40th. With SF it was all just down to the timing because of MGM's problems. Bond 23 was supposed to be in production for a 2011 release, if I'm not mistaken.
  • edited January 2021 Posts: 187
    I said it before, I will say it again. 2022.
    We will get IOI's Bond game before we get this movie. IOI likes releasing things in January lately. Both Hitman 2 and 3 have released in January, so its likely their Bond game ships first.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    km16 wrote: »
    I said it before, I will say it again. 2022.
    We will get IOI's Bond game before we get this movie. IOI likes releasing things in January lately. Both Hitman 2 and 3 have released in January, so its likely their Bond game ships first.

    Would Project 007 really be ready in a year though? They only recently announced it. I’m still looking forward to it.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    km16 wrote: »
    I said it before, I will say it again. 2022.
    We will get IOI's Bond game before we get this movie. IOI likes releasing things in January lately. Both Hitman 2 and 3 have released in January, so its likely their Bond game ships first.

    Would Project 007 really be ready in a year though? They only recently announced it. I’m still looking forward to it.

    when did they announce Hitman 3?

    My hope is to get at least a character design for IO's bond by may
  • Posts: 187
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    km16 wrote: »
    I said it before, I will say it again. 2022.
    We will get IOI's Bond game before we get this movie. IOI likes releasing things in January lately. Both Hitman 2 and 3 have released in January, so its likely their Bond game ships first.

    Would Project 007 really be ready in a year though? They only recently announced it. I’m still looking forward to it.

    They generally work on 2 year development cycles with Hitman at least.

    And it has been known for a good while that they were working on a new IP, it just wasn't known what that IP was until recently so my bet is its fairly far along at this point.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    edited January 2021 Posts: 2,537
  • Unless a streaming service offers MGM and EON a mind bogglingly good deal or 20
    Red_Snow wrote: »

    I don't know how much of a challenge it would present, since we don't 100% know NTTD is moving to November (and I suspect, neither do EON at this stage).

    Not to mention the fact that NTTD is a fully finished movie while MI:7 hasn't even completed filming yet.
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    Unless a streaming service offers MGM and EON a mind bogglingly good deal or 20
    Red_Snow wrote: »

    I don't know how much of a challenge it would present, since we don't 100% know NTTD is moving to November (and I suspect, neither do EON at this stage).

    Not to mention the fact that NTTD is a fully finished movie while MI:7 hasn't even completed filming yet.

    It will be finished in time ( unless Tom Cruise breaks his leg again or they have too many covid cases on the crew ).

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I can see Bond being really tough competition for M:I-7 in international markets, whereas M:I-7 may hold up better in the US. Either way, if EON decides to go November then it’s pretty much up to Paramount and Cruise if they want to stay or push back.
  • edited January 2021 Posts: 440
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Unless a streaming service offers MGM and EON a mind bogglingly good deal or 20
    Red_Snow wrote: »

    I don't know how much of a challenge it would present, since we don't 100% know NTTD is moving to November (and I suspect, neither do EON at this stage).

    Not to mention the fact that NTTD is a fully finished movie while MI:7 hasn't even completed filming yet.

    It will be finished in time ( unless Tom Cruise breaks his leg again or they have too many covid cases on the crew ).

    Well, yeah. Exactly. That's a pretty load-bearing "unless".
    I can see Bond being really tough competition for M:I-7 in international markets, whereas M:I-7 may hold up better in the US. Either way, if EON decides to go November then it’s pretty much up to Paramount and Cruise if they want to stay or push back.

    The last two Bond movie each grossed more than any of the MI movies so if it moves to their spot, I don't think they'll stay.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Bond should just move straight to 2022.

    They might be able to open in November, but it's not ideal in any manner. If anything, theres likely to be another wave of infections in the autumn.

    The better decision is to push it another few months, and use Bond to celebrate not just the end of lockdown, but the 60th anniversary itself, and recapture that 2012 magic.

  • Bond should just move straight to 2022.

    They might be able to open in November, but it's not ideal in any manner. If anything, theres likely to be another wave of infections in the autumn.

    The better decision is to push it another few months, and use Bond to celebrate not just the end of lockdown, but the 60th anniversary itself, and recapture that 2012 magic.

    If vaccinations have brought hospitalisations and deaths right down by November then another wave of infections becomes irrelevant.
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    Bond should just move straight to 2022.

    They might be able to open in November, but it's not ideal in any manner. If anything, theres likely to be another wave of infections in the autumn.

    The better decision is to push it another few months, and use Bond to celebrate not just the end of lockdown, but the 60th anniversary itself, and recapture that 2012 magic.

    If vaccinations have brought hospitalisations and deaths right down by November then another wave of infections becomes irrelevant.

    The problem is: how will politicians explain, that there is no more social distancing etc., when there are almost as much new cases as now. Will the hospital/death-rate really be THE ONE factor?

    There might be people who still won't go to a cinema, when the numbers are high, even if there are fewer deaths.
  • Jan1985 wrote: »
    Bond should just move straight to 2022.

    They might be able to open in November, but it's not ideal in any manner. If anything, theres likely to be another wave of infections in the autumn.

    The better decision is to push it another few months, and use Bond to celebrate not just the end of lockdown, but the 60th anniversary itself, and recapture that 2012 magic.

    If vaccinations have brought hospitalisations and deaths right down by November then another wave of infections becomes irrelevant.

    The problem is: how will politicians explain, that there is no more social distancing etc., when there are almost as much new cases as now. Will the hospital/death-rate really be THE ONE factor?

    There might be people who still won't go to a cinema, when the numbers are high, even if there are fewer deaths.

    You can catch flu in winter yet in the past people have still gone to the cinema in the winter months. If you have immunity to coronavirus and you're no longer posing a threat of hospitalisation or death to someone else I don't see why you would be deterred in going to the cinema.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Once we come out of lockdown, cases will rise again, vaccinations or not. At the very least there will be social distancing measures in place, severely handicapping the boxoffice potential.

    Wonder Woman just came out and flopped harder than Tenet, even that shoud be enough to tell studios 'hold fire'. The safest, best option is to hold off until 2022 and celebrate 60 years of Bond with a new film.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    This thread( and the NTTD and Corona thread) is just like the Who could / should be a Bond actor thread.
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  • Once we come out of lockdown, cases will rise again, vaccinations or not. At the very least there will be social distancing measures in place, severely handicapping the boxoffice potential.

    Wonder Woman just came out and flopped harder than Tenet, even that shoud be enough to tell studios 'hold fire'. The safest, best option is to hold off until 2022 and celebrate 60 years of Bond with a new film.

    Hospitalisations and deaths are predicted to decrease by 99%. Herd immunity will have been reached. The threat is eliminated.
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    They might be able to open in November, but it's not ideal in any manner. If anything, theres likely to be another wave of infections in the autumn.

    The better decision is to push it another few months, and use Bond to celebrate not just the end of lockdown, but the 60th anniversary itself, and recapture that 2012 magic.
    We all know you dislike Craig and I'm staring to think you want this movie delayed as often and as much as possible to hurt the film. The film will not be delayed to 2022. Everyone in developed countries who wants one of the vaccines will get vaccinated by late summer this year the very latest, possibly sooner.
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    Were hospitalisations and deaths expected to decrease before all the new variants came to light. 3 so far. Kent, South African and now Brazil. Or is this just going to be a never-ending cycle regardless of vaccines.
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