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NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited May 2021 Posts: 3,022
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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited May 2021 Posts: 8,452
    Every shot of this movie was captured before even the 2020 presidential race began. Its gonna be surreal to look back to that time now that we are living in a completely different world. In many ways this will be already very outdated with how much has taken place in the interim. Like an old artifact being uncovered for the first time by a new civilisation.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,217
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Every shot of this movie was captured before even the 2020 presidential race began. Its gonna be surreal to look back to that time now that we are living in a completely different world. In many ways this will be already very outdated with how much has taken place in the interim. Like an old artifact being uncovered for the first time by a new civilisation.

    Then you should just view it as 2019 film.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    Well, I guess NTTD will be our first "period piece" Bond film then.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,452
    Indeed, the film that time forgot. ~O)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Fingers crossed it will turn out to be a forgotten masterpiece ;)
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Well, I guess NTTD will be our first "period piece" Bond film then.
    Interesting notion. I suppose it will look rather dated, what without bendy phones.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    With so many other films also held back, we'll have a field day with choice of movies in the cinemas. I wonder though to make room for all the films will films have to be moved out of cinemas ( to make way for another ) when they're still making money ? Instead of only being pulled when the profits go down.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,169
    It’ll probably be hard to follow. Especially dated as Bond does drive an Aston Martin Volante from the 80’s.
    The clothes and hairstyles will also be from 2019 making the film all the more confusing.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Not for me " I haven't changed my act in 40 years " ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,452
    I expect Mr Tree and his Acorns would enjoy Bond 25.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,169
    The argument that NTTD will be dated is trite. During the lengthy period where we got a new Bond film every other year, the previous film didn't feel dated. Technology doesn't move quite that fast. Bond films for the whole have never set a time to which they're in, and keep within a world of a certain ambiguity. Occasionally of course we get the odd lapse into the world of the day. Margaret Thatcher in FYEO, or the talk of mad cow disease in TND along with the then recent Tokyo subway chemical attacks. But these elements are not major to overall plot of said movies. And therefore do not overly date them. The same will apply to NTTD.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,681
    No Time to Date?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,695
    A View To A Kill was set in the future. It was filmed in 1984, but takes place in 1985.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,681
    This is true, there's proof of that at the race track.
  • Jan1985Jan1985
    Posts: 625
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Every shot of this movie was captured before even the 2020 presidential race began. Its gonna be surreal to look back to that time now that we are living in a completely different world. In many ways this will be already very outdated with how much has taken place in the interim. Like an old artifact being uncovered for the first time by a new civilisation.

    QOS was filmed with Bush as president, and was released after Obama won.
    Did it matter? I don't think so.

    Most other films, that get released this year, were filmed even BEFORE Bond.
    So they are much more outdated.
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,650
    This could be a thread in and of itself ! Here's my contribution for "Scenes that Quickly Looked Outdated" -- in DN when the setting changes to "back at the Home office", the ladies' dresses looked very 50s. For a film in 1962 this was not shocking but they very quickly became outdated. Their hair, too. The gent who took the note from a lady employee had a very square and outdated look, too. The rest of the film was much more "with it" and modern, and this brief scene stood out as dated, even in the context of the rest of the same film.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,217
    When DN was shot, Jamaica was still under British rule. By the time the film came out Jamaica had already been declared independent for two months.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Yesterday:

    Amazon nears deal to buy MGM Studios for nearly $9 billion

    A transaction could be announced as soon as Tuesday, sources say.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/24/amazon-nears-deal-to-buy-mgm-for-nearly-9-billion.html
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,650
    I am reminded of Austin Powers, when Dr. Evil was advised that a million dollars ain't what it used to be. Later in the film, when making a demand, his figure rose, as he made up nonsense words rhyming with "million", "billion" and "trillion." So MGM sits there at the big table and says, "We want NINE billion kajillion shmillion scabbadabbadoodillion !" And Amazon says: "Yes."
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2021 Posts: 4,537
    Dutch cinema's after almoost 5 months wil be re open with 30-50 chairs on 5 June and if everthing go alright 250 on 600 chairs (what mean 60 for small cinema room with 150 chairs) on 30 June.

    It is not needed to do official Corona test, but same rules as before. Tickets online only, mouth cap in waitingroom/toilet and can't get in waitingroom 15 minutes before movie started.

    Some movies go straight to DVD and BD (or 4KBD), but Universal/Warner wil be happy that there can release Fast9 and Croods 2. And Warner with Godzilla vs Kong. Order tickets wil start on 30 May.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    NTTD mentioned in the news report

    "Here's why straight-to-streaming blockbusters might never work"
    As a result of the pandemic, studios started releasing movies in theaters and on streaming on the same day. But is that really a good thing? CNN Business' Frank Pallotta explains why that strategy may not become the solution for your favorite blockbusters.



  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited August 2021 Posts: 4,412


    It's a fairly inhospitable time to be a blockbuster at the box office currently. We have had a string of flops or films underperforming, namely:
    1. Cruella
    2. Black Widow
    3. Jungle Cruise
    4. In The Heights
    5. The Suicide Squad

    There have been some success stories though. Godzilla vs Kong benefitted from being 'first', F9 got a big assist from China and A Quiet Place Part 2 benefited from being a fairly small film which was much anticipated.

    Considering the superhero films are really the lifeblood of the box office and even those are faltering, it does go to show that audience appetites are changing - especially now there is a glut of similar content to stream at home. I would say that the at home streaming option provided by Disney and WB is killing the BO. However, some films have overperformed in spite of that. I think piracy may be a bigger factor here, as younger people are much more savvy on the internet and they are the core audience who turn up to see these films multiple times.

    Though, since the Delta variant is now taking off in the USA and vaccinations have plateaued (incidentally, this the exact opposite of what is happening in the UK at the time of writing). Some publications have now gone on the record saying that there is a possibility that the domestic box office will be too weak to sustain films like No Time To Die, Eternals, Venom: Let There be Carnage, and Spider-Man: No Way Home (the latter of which hasn't started marketing).

    Currently, I'd say it be very difficult for the film to hit $600m (CR's gross) and it's looking for something closer to $350-400m (closer to Tenet or 1917 numbers). Given the current market, that would be a 'hit.'

    Though with dynamic theatrical-windows, NTTD will only want/need 30-45 days in theatres before it moves to Blu-Ray, digital and streaming. It'll make more money in PVOD, etc. So I guess the accounting will be different. Personally, I say they keep to October. They know it won't be as successful and will only ever require a short theatrical-window before moving on to different platforms. That will be the same going into 2022. In this sense, NTTD was always a transitional film before the Amazon takeover comes into play.......Now is the time that Eon are sweating and deciding if the market can sustain a film like NTTD.

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  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,602
    @Pierce2Daniel
    If it's available to streaming services, people will watch it there. People who have HBO Max subscriptions will not pay to see a movie in a theater if they can watch at home. Cruella and Jungle Cruise is also available at a cheaper rate than seeing it in theaters for a family of 4. My family did the same thing last weekend for Space Jam 2, that a month subscription at $15 is cheaper than 4 of us going to a theater, dropping 50-70 for tickets and concessions.

    F9 and Quiet Place 2 was theater only. NTTD will be more profitable than any film that releases on a duel theater/streaming platform.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    People are not confident going to the movies. They were more confident back in May/June but now with the Delta variant spread the level of confidence is going down again.

    If EoN sticks to October, it would be only because they made peace with the fact that this film is a cursed lost cause.
  • IGotABrudderIGotABrudder UK
    Posts: 631
    I’ve reached the point where I just want them to release the film and be done with it. If it makes a loss, then it makes a loss.

    The alternative is to delay the film to the spring of 2022 in the hope that the delta variant will be under control by then. But for all anyone knows there will be the epsilon or gamma variants in 2022 and so we will be back at square one yet again
  • Jan1985Jan1985
    Posts: 625
    matt_u wrote: »
    People are not confident going to the movies.

    Some people.
    And in the end it depends on how politicians and the media speak about Covid.
    If they tend to panic, people tend to panic.
    If they say, that you don't have to fear anything when you're vaccinated, people will be more confident again.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343


    How about that? 1/3 of F9 gross came from China.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited August 2021 Posts: 16,226
    I imagine if Eon announces yet another delay it would be reasonably soon. I somehow don't believe they'd announce another April release. I'd see them going all the way for November 2022. Who knows, though?
  • TR007TR007
    Posts: 1,165
    matt_u wrote: »


    How about that? 1/3 of F9 gross came from China.
    NTTD does not have a Chinese release date YET. That’s not to say they don’t have one at all.
    The above is a bit of a parody Twitter account I think. Not worth getting your news from.
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