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NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • Scaramanga1974Scaramanga1974
    Posts: 724
    Was anyone slightly disappointed with Nomi? Only weak point in film for me.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,182
    Venom’s advantage is that it’s only 90 minutes compared to Bond’s 163 min runtime.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited October 2021 Posts: 40,968
    The film is looking to bring in $60 million domestic for opening weekend:

    https://deadline.com/2021/10/no-time-to-die-weekend-box-office-1234852700/
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Was anyone slightly disappointed with Nomi? Only weak point in film for me.

    There was a lot more wrong with the movie than just Nomi.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    How many times can you repeat the same point, @jetsetwilly? We get it, you don’t need to spam every thread with how much this movie personally insulted you.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Minion wrote: »
    How many times can you repeat the same point, @jetsetwilly? We get it, you don’t need to spam every thread with how much this movie personally insulted you.

    Likewise, there are many that are repeating they loved the movie, although I haven't seen you call them out.... ;)
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    And yet, you feel the need to cast your net to every thread to stomp on that enthusiasm. You’re not beholden to like NTTD, it’s just disappointing how eager you are to try and rain on everyone else’s parade. There’s a more constructive way to go about what you’re doing, but less fun I suppose than acting the bully.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Minion wrote: »
    And yet, you feel the need to cast your net to every thread to stomp on that enthusiasm. You’re not beholden to like NTTD, it’s just disappointing how eager you are to try and rain on everyone else’s parade. There’s a more constructive way to go about what you’re doing, but less fun I suppose than acting the bully.

    I guess I'm still too annoyed by what they have done to the franchise, and I still need to vent my anger some place. I've been a member here since 2005, so feel I can do this on the forum. I haven't felt this pissed off with a Bond film since DAD.

    If it is upsetting for anyone to read these posts, then apologies.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
    edited October 2021 Posts: 941
    Minion wrote: »
    And yet, you feel the need to cast your net to every thread to stomp on that enthusiasm. You’re not beholden to like NTTD, it’s just disappointing how eager you are to try and rain on everyone else’s parade. There’s a more constructive way to go about what you’re doing, but less fun I suppose than acting the bully.
    Seriously, most of those who have criticisms of the film have been far less personal than a lot of the pro-NTTD, who have made a lot of remarks designed to dissuade people who have issues with it from posting. I've found it rather hostile.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Minion wrote: »
    And yet, you feel the need to cast your net to every thread to stomp on that enthusiasm. You’re not beholden to like NTTD, it’s just disappointing how eager you are to try and rain on everyone else’s parade. There’s a more constructive way to go about what you’re doing, but less fun I suppose than acting the bully.
    Seriously, most of those who have criticisms of the film have been far less personal than a lot of the pro-NTTD, who have made a lot of remarks designed to dissuade people who have issues with it from posting. I've found it rather hostile.

    Yeah right. And he had the nerve to call me the bully. :))
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    Admittedly this guy is somewhat obnoxious and obviously not a Bond fan but I agree with a great deal of what he has to say.

  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Here is Graham Rye's review, which is spot on. Not sure if it has already been posted -

    http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond25/no_time_to_die_review.htm
  • SimonSimon Keeping The British End Up...
    Posts: 154
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Here is Graham Rye's review, which is spot on. Not sure if it has already been posted -

    http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond25/no_time_to_die_review.htm

    Guess he isn't a fan...

    I rank NTTD pretty poorly, but that reviews comment:
    The shadow of Jason Bourne hangs over every action sequence here, and frustratingly No Time To Die fails to provide any action set-pieces or fight scenes that really get the pulse racing.

    Does just feel like taking pot-shots at everything, just because they didn't like something else. He boils it down to 'looks nice, otherwise terrible' and even I wouldn't stretch my dislike for the film that far. And I only rank DAD below NTTD.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Simon wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Here is Graham Rye's review, which is spot on. Not sure if it has already been posted -

    http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond25/no_time_to_die_review.htm

    Guess he isn't a fan...

    I rank NTTD pretty poorly, but that reviews comment:
    The shadow of Jason Bourne hangs over every action sequence here, and frustratingly No Time To Die fails to provide any action set-pieces or fight scenes that really get the pulse racing.

    Does just feel like taking pot-shots at everything, just because they didn't like something else. He boils it down to 'looks nice, otherwise terrible' and even I wouldn't stretch my dislike for the film that far. And I only rank DAD below NTTD.

    Yes, the one plus point for me was the action, which I thought was some of the best we've seen in a Bond film, regardless of its many faults.

    Ranking NTDD just above DAD. Wow! That is pretty low. X_X
  • Scaramanga1974Scaramanga1974
    Posts: 724
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Here is Graham Rye's review, which is spot on. Not sure if it has already been posted -

    http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond25/no_time_to_die_review.htm

    Completely disagree. I actually met Graham Rye once at after premier event. He is a bit of a miserable so and so.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,327
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Here is Graham Rye's review, which is spot on. Not sure if it has already been posted -

    http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond25/no_time_to_die_review.htm

    Completely disagree. I actually met Graham Rye once at after premier event. He is a bit of a miserable so and so.

    Probably not too dissimilar to me then.... :))
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited October 2021 Posts: 346
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Here is Graham Rye's review, which is spot on. Not sure if it has already been posted

    http://www.007magazine.co.uk/bond25/no_time_to_die_review.htm

    Your link is to 007 Chief Writer Luke G Williams review, not Rye's. 😉
  • JimjambondJimjambond
    Posts: 328
    60Million domestic opening? Yikes! Hopefully this is a sign of having good legs as opposed to being ridiculously front loaded
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited October 2021 Posts: 346

    Sorry posted twice. Can the moderator please delete? Thanks.
  • MrsAuralSectsMrsAuralSects
    Posts: 214
    Jimjambond wrote: »
    60Million domestic opening? Yikes! Hopefully this is a sign of having good legs as opposed to being ridiculously front loaded

    Bond usually has 2 strong opening weekends so I'm hoping it legs out. Unless it's a MARVEL movie (which loses 2/3 of it's clout by the following weekend as Venom 2 is doing), all movies are still in pandemic flux. Bond should still be at the top next weekend and if it legs out like Casino Royale did, it should still do ok in the US.

    No comment about the idiot who goes on youtube heehawing like a jackass about the film....that's how some of them try to get noticed.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,785
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Minion wrote: »
    And yet, you feel the need to cast your net to every thread to stomp on that enthusiasm. You’re not beholden to like NTTD, it’s just disappointing how eager you are to try and rain on everyone else’s parade. There’s a more constructive way to go about what you’re doing, but less fun I suppose than acting the bully.

    I guess I'm still too annoyed by what they have done to the franchise, and I still need to vent my anger some place. I've been a member here since 2005, so feel I can do this on the forum. I haven't felt this pissed off with a Bond film since DAD.

    If it is upsetting for anyone to read these posts, then apologies.
    I've seen the film 3 times and over the weekend will go through most of the comments of the last week.

    Sight unseen, I will say from the start there's an obvious difference between repeated positive versus repeated negative comments. Or as put above: venting anger. They're not not the same level of civility and public discourse. The analogy I use is: you don't go to a good restaurant and keep repeating a dislike for a selection on the menu. Any point can be made to express a view, that's normally welcomed. But chronically complaining gets into behavior and disruption, especially when the subject is the latest Bond film during its release.

    It's not about civil rights and free expression and being entitled to speak one's mind. More empathy and respect for folks that simply like the film.

  • MrsAuralSectsMrsAuralSects
    Posts: 214
    Hey willy, I know you've been here since Craig was breastfeeding so yeah, I don't mind if you vent. I'm just feeling the opposite....Craig's Bond was always in a different continuity...I'm glad they shook up the formula. There were tears on my face so it impacted me, just not negatively.
  • Scaramanga1974Scaramanga1974
    Posts: 724
    Personally I hold Dan Craig's tenure as the strongest of the series, QOS included. It certainly contains the best acting imo but I appreciate others will disagree.
  • MrsAuralSectsMrsAuralSects
    Posts: 214
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Personally I hold Dan Craig's tenure as the strongest of the series, QOS included. It certainly contains the best acting imo but I appreciate others will disagree.

    I feel this way too.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    MrsAuralSects wrote: »
    Jimjambond wrote: »
    60Million domestic opening? Yikes! Hopefully this is a sign of having good legs as opposed to being ridiculously front loaded

    Bond usually has 2 strong opening weekends so I'm hoping it legs out. Unless it's a MARVEL movie (which loses 2/3 of it's clout by the following weekend as Venom 2 is doing), all movies are still in pandemic flux. Bond should still be at the top next weekend and if it legs out like Casino Royale did, it should still do ok in the US.

    No comment about the idiot who goes on youtube heehawing like a jackass about the film....that's how some of them try to get noticed.

    Thank you; for all of this.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    jetsetwilly wrote: »
    Minion wrote: »
    And yet, you feel the need to cast your net to every thread to stomp on that enthusiasm. You’re not beholden to like NTTD, it’s just disappointing how eager you are to try and rain on everyone else’s parade. There’s a more constructive way to go about what you’re doing, but less fun I suppose than acting the bully.

    I guess I'm still too annoyed by what they have done to the franchise, and I still need to vent my anger some place. I've been a member here since 2005, so feel I can do this on the forum. I haven't felt this pissed off with a Bond film since DAD.

    If it is upsetting for anyone to read these posts, then apologies.
    I've seen the film 3 times and over the weekend will go through most of the comments of the last week.

    Sight unseen, I will say from the start there's an obvious difference between repeated positive versus repeated negative comments. Or as put above: venting anger. They're not not the same level of civility and public discourse. The analogy I use is: you don't go to a good restaurant and keep repeating a dislike for a selection on the menu. Any point can be made to express a view, that's normally welcomed. But chronically complaining gets into behavior and disruption, especially when the subject is the latest Bond film during its release.

    It's not about civil rights and free expression and being entitled to speak one's mind. More empathy and respect for folks that simply like the film.

    Good analogy. B-)
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,841
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The film is looking to bring in $60 million domestic for opening weekend:

    https://deadline.com/2021/10/no-time-to-die-weekend-box-office-1234852700/

    I don’t know how this may factor into this weekend’s totals, but Monday, October 11th is a holiday for many of us in the US (Columbus Day). Some people may decide to skip Friday-Sunday and see it then instead.
  • RyanRyan Canada
    Posts: 692
    Dwayne wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The film is looking to bring in $60 million domestic for opening weekend:

    https://deadline.com/2021/10/no-time-to-die-weekend-box-office-1234852700/

    I don’t know how this may factor into this weekend’s totals, but Monday, October 11th is a holiday for many of us in the US (Columbus Day). Some people may decide to skip Friday-Sunday and see it then instead.

    Holiday for us Canadians as well (our Thanksgiving), so that could give Monday overall a boost.

    Speaking for my local cinema, the showings are quite packed overall even with Ontario's vaccine requirement, so the film does indeed seem to be holding its own.
  • MrsAuralSectsMrsAuralSects
    edited October 2021 Posts: 214
    It's also noteworthy that those reporting on the US box-office are not rubbishing Bond's performance and are putting it on par with the last MI and Bourne movies which did not have pandemic complications.

    Don't despair just yet.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited October 2021 Posts: 12,480
    Are people seriously worried about Americans going to see this film? Why? And I mean do NOT please do not put serious spoilers in reply or even in spoiler tags; please don't. Can you explain it a little to me in general terms without any spoilers? I'd appreciate it.

    Are we concerned that the box office will not be enough to help the next Bond film?
    I am not worried; just wondering why specifically some people are very anxious. I would only worry if it would strongly negatively affect the next film being made. I do not think there is any chance of that.
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