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I agree, this would have been an interesting way to do it.
I suppose you're right @Denbigh about the writing being the problem rather than the casting, but even with better writing, I can't really imagine Kinnear being good friends with Craig in the service. Maybe it's just me.
I'd argue there's dramatic potential with Tanner, and ideally we'd get to see a similar relationship that the two men had in the novels. Maybe have a similar backstory to Forever and A Day in which Tanner is partially the reason why Bond is a 00.
Though I suppose if you were to go down that route, there'd be no need for Tanner, seeing as his more official duties, as @Venutius suggested, could be given to Moneypenny. The only way around it really is if they made Tanner a really small part again like they did with Kinnear, maybe with a slightly different dynamic, and then hired an actor who we don't feel is being wasted.
Ditto. Same to Felix Leiter. Skyfall proved it could work with M. Hopefully, Tanner and Leiter will be more sympathetic then M.
How would we feel if the next Bond-Moneypenny dynamic heavily suggested they had already had something of an intimate affair in the past and decided to professionally move on, but still play around with the idea etc.? I always thought Brosnan seemed a little green around Samantha Bond in GoldenEye, though the chemistry improved after.
Having Bond and MP formerly hook up seems like a modern interpretation of the office secretary feigning after him. In today's day and age, what's stopping them...
Exactly. My last thoughts on Tanner: he's a valuable character in the stories because he allows Bond to communicate how he really feels about things happening with MI6 I think. If anything, the Craig era combined the roles of M and Tanner; M became a sort of friend to Bond as well as employer, and he had no problem telling M what he really thought of things... I'd like to back to a place where Bond has only respect for M and would never talk back to him, and is able to air his true thoughts through his friend Tanner.
So in a sense Tanner/Bond's relationship would be more akin to an older/younger brother respectively with M as a sort of authoritative parental figure in that scenario?
That'd be interesting. Actually not necessarily something we've seen in the films before with Tanner's role in this. Very different to the Craig era too.
GE *got* Tanner in one line whereas QoS-NTTD muddled through many scenes.
His Dad was also the actor who played Veruca Salt's Father in Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory.
Typical British film industry nepotism... but interesting nonetheless.
Exactly.
Yeah, that sums up my thinking pretty well. As above, the closest we came was GoldenEye.
With M, there are not many avenues to explore that would feel original. We've had the paternal M, the maternal M, and the more tough-love M. Again with Tanner, you just run the risk of wasting time with him, especially given his role as a brotherly figure to Bond can easily be given to Q or even Felix, with his more professional duties given to Moneypenny.
I've said this before but I'd love an older Felix who can somewhat act as a paternal figure to Bond outside of MI6, and a younger Q who's the same age as Bond to explore that brotherly dynamic I mentioned above. Both these ideas freshen up both characters in my opinion. With Moneypenny, I feel the best route would be to keep her character somewhat traditional, but maybe change up how and why they flirt with each other.
Unless, of course, one consciously starts a period-piece of Bond movies based on the novels, and taking place in the 1950s and 1960s. Then, I guess, you could remake every movie true to the Fleming novels and maybe even the post-Fleming ones, since it should be obvious to the audience that that is not the same Bond who just died around 2020. I, for one, would be delighted to see a series of movies of that kind.
Elize du Toit (Vanessa, M's assistant in SF) - but this time as Moneypenny.
If NTTD had a different ending I think Whishaw stays on as Q, because he's loved by everyone
A lot of people outside the fan community got confused all the same because of M casting in CR. "So it's a prequel? Or is James Bond a codename after all?" Whatever they choose to do with the casting, there will be people who wonders why Nomi is not 007 (or Jane Bond) or how Bond survived the events of NTTD.