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Why isn't your "go-to" Bond film your favorite Bond film?

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  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    At the moment its probably QOS, mainly because of the short runtime! My absolute favs are OHMSS, and of course Daltons two, but have to admit, generally if I can't decide what Bond film to watch, I always go with any of Rogers!

    On a separate note, just reading back on this thread, I really miss barry007!
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    At the moment its probably QOS, mainly because of the short runtime! My absolute favs are OHMSS, and of course Daltons two, but have to admit, generally if I can't decide what Bond film to watch, I always go with any of Rogers!

    On a separate note, just reading back on this thread, I really miss barry007!

    There's one reason why OHMSS is not one of my go-to Bond films: I prefer to watch it around November and December. During summertime it just doesn't feel right.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    At the moment its probably QOS, mainly because of the short runtime! My absolute favs are OHMSS, and of course Daltons two, but have to admit, generally if I can't decide what Bond film to watch, I always go with any of Rogers!

    On a separate note, just reading back on this thread, I really miss barry007!

    There's one reason why OHMSS is not one of my go-to Bond films: I prefer to watch it around November and December. During summertime it just doesn't feel right.

    OHMSS is also my favorite, but yes it's not my go-to Bond film, I just watch it on special occasions, and also depends on my mood, same for my other favorites (SF, TWINE, and FYEO).

    It feels strange that those considered worst Bond films are my go-to Bond films like DAD and SPECTRE.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
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    MI6HQ wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    At the moment its probably QOS, mainly because of the short runtime! My absolute favs are OHMSS, and of course Daltons two, but have to admit, generally if I can't decide what Bond film to watch, I always go with any of Rogers!

    On a separate note, just reading back on this thread, I really miss barry007!

    There's one reason why OHMSS is not one of my go-to Bond films: I prefer to watch it around November and December. During summertime it just doesn't feel right.

    OHMSS is also my favorite, but yes it's not my go-to Bond film, I just watch it on special occasions, and also depends on my mood, same for my other favorites (SF, TWINE, and FYEO).

    It feels strange that those considered worst Bond films are my go-to Bond films like DAD and SPECTRE.

    I think that's the point though, Casino or Majesty's are like fine wines, you wait for a special occasion to savour them. Whereas Spectre, DAD, DAF, etc. are like junk food, they're crap but they're simple and you know you're going to get some enjoyment out of them.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    I cannot enjoy DAD or DAF as junk food. Spectre on the other hand I really enjoy it in spite of its flaws. I find it unfairly maligned here. For me it's a Bond film I enjoy especially around November, for my Noirvember binge.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I don't always pop OHMSS or CR in, even though they're my favorites. If I do, I know I'll watch them all the way to the end and be depressed.

    At this point it's YOLT or (oddly) QoS for my go-tos.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    Quite a lot of QOS being named here actually...!
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    Quite a lot of QOS being named here actually...!

    I can understand why: it's very fast paced, it's short and it's aesthetically very good looking.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    CR is my favourite and I think it's the best, but I do watch QOS more often. I was going to say it's because I don't want to dull the impact of CR through over-familiarity - but I've seen it literally dozens of times and I still love it as much as I ever did, so it's not that! It may well be the required 'emotional investment' that others have mentioned, whereas QOS is more akin to a 'bullet from a gun', as Forster put it.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    Quite a lot of QOS being named here actually...!

    It really does get better with each viewing, and there are very few dud scenes, if any!
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    edited July 2022 Posts: 1,711
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    Quite a lot of QOS being named here actually...!

    It really does get better with each viewing, and there are very few dud scenes, if any!

    Someone here also once pointed out that the camerawork/editing people moan about is a lot easier to process at home on your TV than it is in the cinema. Certain aspects of the plot also become easier to follow on rewatches. The film sort of unlocks itself a bit on an early run of rewatches...
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited July 2022 Posts: 1,033
    Venutius wrote: »
    CR is my favourite and I think it's the best, but I do watch QOS more often. I was going to say it's because I don't want to dull the impact of CR through over-familiarity - but I've seen it literally dozens of times and I still love it as much as I ever did, so it's not that! It may well be the required 'emotional investment' that others have mentioned, whereas QOS is more akin to a 'bullet from a gun', as Forster put it.

    You’ve perfectly summed up my thoughts.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson
    edited July 2022 Posts: 2,161
    I really don’t see the problem with the editing with QOS, I never have. And I teach film editing. Specifically, the final showdown between Bond and Mitchell is impressive. Editing, cinematography, music, choreography, stunt work and story are working in complete cohesion, and it remains kinetic. Far from an easy achievement.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really don’t see the problem with the editing with QOS, I never have. And I teach film editing. Specifically, the final showdown between Bond and Mitchell is impressive. Editing, cinematography, music, choreography, stunt work and story are working in complete cohesion, and it remains kinetic. Far from an easy achievement.

    I don't think there's an angle repeated twice in that entire sequence, which is both impressive and baffling to me. Thus, my main gripe is that a sense of geography within the scene is lost, and while there's an argument to be made about the action style in the film being reflective of Bond's state of mind, it doesn't make it any more easily digestible as a viewer.

    The style makes sense during the car/plane chase though and actually heightens their impact, but I think applying it universally across the board was a mistake.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've never had an issue with the editing. There might've been a few mix-ups I had after the first couple of viewings that I didn't catch but you really do "unlock" more with the more viewings you have of it. It's entirely comprehensible and easy to follow for me.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    My first viewing, the editing did throw me, felt like I missed a lot. But the more you watch the easier it is to know what's going on, and now I wouldnt have it any other way! There are just some moments, particularly the part of the foot chase with Mitchell, that goes underground that is a bit muddled, and that final moment in the boat chase! But this film so much more than the editing, loads of memorable sequences, and I think its Craigs best performance as 007, and thats coming from someone who was blown away by him in CR!
  • CrzChris4CrzChris4
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    My “go-to” Bond film would most likely be GoldenEye. It’s at #5 on my rankings, yet when I want to watch a random one-off, I’d be lying if I said GoldenEye didn’t cross my mind. It combines the production values of “Modern Bond” with the story and formula of the previous films.

    I’d also agree with QOS, I think it feels as fresh as it did on opening night back in 2008.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I remember trying to catch, during the five theatrical viewings I had, whether I saw Jack White and Alicia Keys walking in alongside the other Tosca audience members. It wasn't them but it was fun at the time.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    This thread really makes me want to do a Bondathon where I try to rank them exclusively via rewatch factor. I know bias would inevitably set in and I'd feel "wrong" ranking certain classics so low but it'd be quite revealing.
    I've been fascinated by why people rank films the way they do, whether it's rewatchability, perceived quality (or lack of), and how age, nostalgia, even gender influences this.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited July 2022 Posts: 1,033
    Why don’t we start an elimination game based purely on rewatchability?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    w2bond wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    This thread really makes me want to do a Bondathon where I try to rank them exclusively via rewatch factor. I know bias would inevitably set in and I'd feel "wrong" ranking certain classics so low but it'd be quite revealing.
    I've been fascinated by why people rank films the way they do, whether it's rewatchability, perceived quality (or lack of), and how age, nostalgia, even gender influences this.

    Me too. There are so many ways to go about ranking them, it's really fascinating.

    @Junglist_1985, that's a fun idea. Feel free to start it since you came up with it, as I think we only have the villain actor elimination game going on right now and we usually have two going simultaneously.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    Done!
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    w2bond wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    This thread really makes me want to do a Bondathon where I try to rank them exclusively via rewatch factor. I know bias would inevitably set in and I'd feel "wrong" ranking certain classics so low but it'd be quite revealing.
    I've been fascinated by why people rank films the way they do, whether it's rewatchability, perceived quality (or lack of), and how age, nostalgia, even gender influences this.

    I like to re-rank them once or twice a month until the next film comes out. Considering the Bonds no longer have a regular schedule, I figure at some point each film could be ranked in each spot before we see a new Bond on the big screen again. :D
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