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Well. It's baffling, disappointing, and also bloody boring now to read people yammering about how awful a female 007, of any color, would be. No matter how much screen time she has, becomes permanent 007, takes over the series from Craig, or is temporarily assigned that 00 number. Etc. It's this kind of spewing and overreacting that puts a huge blot on Bond as a community. It's a shame, really.
Will Lea and Ana indulge in some yabadabadoo.... That would make me very happy :D
I think that horse bolted when a load of folk lost their mind about Bond’s hair colour changing in 2005. Us Bond fans are, sadly, a pretty stupid bunch.
We didn't even have smartphones back then, social media wasn't really a thing yet. Imagine the outrage today.
Possible tabloid headlines:
"James Bond falls in love for real and quits Mi6!"
"Greaaaat job EoN, another 80 million dollar write-off!! You sold out to the PC police and Hollywood feminists!!!!1!! You just killed James Bond!" *fake tears and outrage*
Don't forget that it features two portions of the film where Bond isn't 007! Oh my God!!
Makes you wonder if Eon were taking the mick out of their own fans when they called a film 'Skyfall': satirising those folk who act like the sky is falling every time they make a tiny change.
Imagine those same people watch LTK (where Bond is 007 only for the first 20min, Cubby Broccoli approved) and reminisce about how everything was better back then lol.
No, but "the same old thing" eventually equals bland and boring. That's why creative types so often try out N&D.
And what same old thing would you be referring to?
Granted. It's a fine line to walk, having an existing property like Bond, 50 years+ in existence and still packing in the paying customers. Which is why we should cherish the series whichever side of the line it happens to be at in any given moment.
There was a point in time when it was popular to criticize "Tomorrow Never Dies" as being a "check all the boxes" entry into the Bond canon. Now, I like TND -- but that particular critique demonstrates the sort of flaw I'm talking about. A "paint by the numbers" approach to crafting the product. For my own tastes, I'd saw that "Spectre" was too much of the same old thing -- and the movie suffered for it.
I don't really see how TND was anything like Spectre. For me, TND was a classic Bond formula movie and there was nothing wrong with that. Granted TND was the second Bond movie I had ever seen so I always enjoyed it for what it was. Sure that's not to everybody's tastes but then again, that kind of Bond movie hasn't been made since 1999.
Sure Spectre tried to be more of the same but it's execution was bungled by Mendes who bungled up a lot about Spectre. That's the fault of Mendes, not the Bond formula. Frankly, I'd say this more, gritty, realistic approach Bond is more of the same after 14 years at this point and I wouldn't mind a return to the classic Bond formula that hasn't been seen for 20 years.
And BTW, I wasn't saying that TND was anything like Spectre. I cited reasons that both have been tarred with the same brush, which is not really the same thing.
Hardly. Spectre wasn't much a return to the classic Bond formula anyway. Just a thinly veiled attempt to be using tricks like the OHMSS theme in the trailer to lure people in. Spectre's issues weren't it's attempt to be a classic Bond film. It's how those elements were executed. Going back to a more classic style Bond film in 2019 is a novel idea. Making Blofeld, Bond's foster brother. (A new and different idea.) is just plain stupid.
I'm not judging Bond 25 yet. But that doesn't mean I have to like ideas about it that have been presented for public discussion. I'm not a fan of Rami Malek but I don't think the movie is going to be a trainwreck because he was cast.
Just because a franchise tries new and different ideas doesn't mean those ideas are good. That's what I'm saying.
Meanwhile, Rami was filming in NYC yesterday
The so called "classic formula" doesn't always equal good either.
I don't know, it's had a pretty great batting average so far.
In this case - for me - it's quite the opposite.
Everyone - my family, friends, coworkers - know that I am a huge Bond fan. The last month I have been confronted with a lot of angry people asking me "what's up with this PC turning Bond into a woman-stuff?" They don't know better and are clearly overreacting because of some headlines.
I try to keep my cool. I tell them that Craig is in the movie, Bond is retired from the get-go, and that 007 being a woman is therefore only temporary.
I have never experienced people that angry about a movie before. They are not even Bond fans, but just casual moviegoers.
Same here, people are sending me news articles about this too, even though they are not Bond fans themselves, thinking that i would freak out about it.
But only a couple month ago, when i met people and talked about the new Bond film, i often got the reaction "What, Idris Elba is not the new Bond?!"
So it is what it is.
People are not informed and are getting triggered daily by BS on their Twitter and FB feeds.
I saw people on youtube only yesterday, thinking that Lachana Lynch is the lead character in B25, i don't think these people even knew that Craig is in it.
People don't take the time to inform themselves, they rather be angry. More fun i guess.
For me it's what hindered the films in the later years, particularly during the Brosnan era, an era I couldn't connect to as a kid growing up because it felt so cookie cutter. Those latter three films had really strong concepts that could have made very interesting installments. TWINE had the most potential, but God forbid Bond doesn't end up alone at the end after killing Elektra. He has to have a Roger Moore type ending with the MI6 watching him shag as he spouts out an awful double entendre, because that's the "classic formula".
But I get it. The experiment with LTK was very rough for MGM/EON, so with Brosnan they opted to flirt with interesting concepts but ultimately play it safe. Whatever my feelings of Craig's run, I'm much more appreciative of EON trying to do something different, with SKYFALL being the highlight.
Re all this negative bickering on here,we should be grateful we are 8 months from a Bond film coming out,and after that who knows ,it might go back to being every 2 years,we will have the #7 007 coming in,hopefully Universal still backing EON,so its all positive.
BOND IS BACK PEOPLE !!!!!!!!