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And you think all his women shared his political views? I'm sure he appreciated fighting with some of his women about these topics.
I think that when Fleming was alive not many people were for gay marriage. And I also fail to see what that has to do with this thread.
No @00Agent I'm saying he isn't a progressive your missing the whole point
I think Fleming was very progressive for his time, but some might think he was conservative. It's all up to personal interpretation at the end of the day. Fleming was very supportive of Womens rights. He was also very supportive of the Black community for example, something that was not exactly popular in the 50's. He emigrated to a majority black country after all, and embraced the local culture wholeheartedly. But on other points he was rather conservative. I think Fleming was a guy who did not look at thinks through a left/right lense but looked at every topic individually and made his mind up with the information that he had. He was always reading and studying.
But conservative/progressive mean different things in different parts of the world also, it's not the same in europe as it is in america. But let's not turn this into a political debate and rather move on.
Your not in this discussion I doubt he would still be literally he doesn't seem like a radical person based on his background. He would be attacked so badly from the left. Anyway let's move on.
I'm "not in this discussion"...
@007Blofeld ... progressive thinker... some of Fleming’s ideas and the way he wrote were progressive. Or forward thinking. Ahead of the times.
Indeed, there were some ugly opinions based on sex and race, for sure. And they were certainly based on the sins of the very recent past. No doubt about that. And I’d happily lump these ugly thoughts in a certain category that doesn’t include the word “progressive”.
I'm for most those things and I'm not progressive conservatives were the ones that started the women's rights movements and gave women voting rights until it turned and conservatives were for blacks and were part of the union during the civil war and still are contrary to what the media says. You could say for different countries the us and uk but Fleming said he was conservative in his own words. In todays world he would lean conservative based on me too and gay marriage I have no doubt just based on my thinking It's a lost debate really he isn't alive.
Yupp, that's true. We can only speculate.
@peter just because he was a progressive thinker doesn't mean he was progressive it depends really how much value he puts into his beliefs and his beliefs were conservative. I'm getting tired I need some sleep been up all night this could go on and on.
Maybe if we meet him in heaven we can ask him who knows.
Not sure he made it up there. :))
But by the way i'm conducting my own life, i'm pretty sure i will have a cabin right next to him no matter where he ended up at lol
And i will gladly ask him ;)
Let's hope he did
You kind of seem to be jarring in. unless you have something to add but you want to move on and so do I. @JamesCraig
Someone who created a misogynist character that lasts 60 years should have a reserved VIP section for him ;)
Yeah, this guy :D
=))
But we are only jarring in. :-?
PREACH
@MakeshiftPython I'm not being touchy I'm just trying to tell the truth at least I'm not a smart alec like you and some other people on here its really making the forum unwrite-able and unreadable. he was catholic and usually those people these days are conservative we live in different times I'm sure JFK would be a conservative today so that's a bad argument anyone could have been a Democrat or Republican and flipped flop and now more separate it all started after the 60s with the sexual revolution.
@JamesCraig just drop it
One thing is certain: Fleming definitely would have thought Trump was an utter moron.
He was not a devoted christian at all, and lived his life pretty much in the opposite direction of what a devoted christian would do. I don't know where you got that from, but let us not turn this into a religious or political debate. This is getting tedious, and has very little to do with "the women of NTTD".
So let me pick up where we left off with that.
Wouldn't we all? That, we can all agree on. :))
This is what we're here to look at. Thank you for this.
My pleasure. I also invite you all over to the Bond Girl Friday's thread, plenty more of this over there. ;)
Not all Republicans like trump I hope everyone doesn't think this but its probably true @MakeshiftPython
So he was a fake catholic? his wife had prayers with his kids I would Google it https://www.wbur.org/news/2017/05/25/kennedy-catholicism-presidential-campaign if your interested you might be surprised. but whatever I remember reading people where worried the Pope would have control of the u.s. government from history class so I think he was very much faith based but anyway yeah let's move on and yes oh yes Fleming would dive in and make a move on her haha lol. Friday's are the best. @00Agent 8-} :x B-) O:-) :P ;;) :D