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Not exactly a colleague but... :D
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Quite clearly a mistake on Bond's part there[/quote]
Because...?
Him checking out every girl he sees is proof that he's not sex-obsessed? :D
It's called being hetrosexual. You forgot that the girl was the one whispered Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...... then bond turn around to check her out . You also don't take into account that most men have higher sexual drive compare to women. Being obsessed and having higher sexual drive are two different things, learn to differentiate.
While we are at it , you advocating against bond being sex-obsessed is the proof that you are a simp? :D
Sure (and on the reciprocation, it's a Bond film- that's just how it works for him :) ) but the point is perhaps it's not actually okay to try to tap your work colleagues up for a shag (and it's not like he's often up for much more: I don't think Fields was ever going to be the love of his life- he didn't even catch her first name!). No-one's saying they're going to change Bond from this attitude, just that it's okay to address that it's not okay, in much the same way that the films don't necessarily condone him for being a snob or a murderer: he's not presented as perfect. But it's okay to recognise that he's a bit of a dick too :)
I wouldn't disagree with any of that. He's often used sex as a tool, and I think he certainly did with Fields and it ultimately got her killed. Just the response in relation to the word harassment threw me a bit. Sorry.
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I probably sound like a broken record because it's a warning. I have done some things yes not cooking I'm terrible video games yes definitely you video game? @00Agent
She seems pretty happy there and not harrassed.
Neither she is harassed nor bond is obsessed. Yes she might be a little upset that bond left her there to pursue her husband (i am pretty sure a man who is sex obsessed can hardly keep up for Queen & Country).
So you're trying to say that James Bond isn't sex obsessed? And your proof is a photo of him dry humping a beautiful woman on the floor? Okaaay... :D
I'm not sure it would stand up in court, m'lud ;)
We have very different definition of obsession. Someone who can leave a girl like that to pursue a terrorist(her husband) cannot be sex obsessed. The photo was to show he left in the middle of his obsession (what you call it) . But again you are more interested in cherry picking than the actual argument. :)
I am not sure if bond ever was accused of sexual harrasment in court.
i was talking about the photo of him at the ocean club golf course starting at the blondie.
Oh, of course she wasn't harrased.
yeah
Wait for Bond 26 ;)
No but i would also say that he is definitly not sex obsessed. Neither is he sex addicted, which could be a serious condition. He just has a high sex drive, and has been doing that whole casual thing for such a long time that he has become extremely good and efficient at it.
Studying psychology for the last 5 years has taught me a lot about addiction & obsession. I am actually obsessed with the word "obsession" ;)
Just to check: you're talking about James Bond here? :D
Someone who wasn't sex-obsessed wouldn't be there in the first place to leave! I'm not trying to claim he's insane and puts his own sexual desires above the fate of the western world(!), but he does manage to conveniently slot an awful lot of shagging into his day job ;)
Again: your proof of him not being a huge shagger is to show him... on the verge of shagging :D You can laugh at that?
Yup
And apparently I'm the one 'cherry-picking' :D
So what is the actual claim here? That Bond doesn't harass women in any way, that he has a totally professional relationship with his colleagues and never tries it on with them, and that he has a very cool disinterest in sex? James Bond. What are we actually arguing?
I think we are splitting hairs here. No one claims he isn't a shagger, but being "obsessed" are two different things. You can be efficient at something and not be obsessed about it.
I know: I've lost track a bit of the argument too! That's why I asked what the actual point attempting to be proven was :) And every bit of 'proof' that he hasn't got shagging on the mind at all times seems to involve him... trying to or thinking about shagging someone :D
'Efficient'? So he doesn't enjoy it or seek it out? Perhaps a little more than most men? What is your actual point here? Or are you only in this to play semantics over my use of the word 'obsessed' under that picture of him in the car park? I'm happy to admit he's not clinically obssessed, whatever the clinical definition of that is: I just used that word because it seemed the most appropriate in an internet post I took a few seconds to write: it wasn't an official medical diagnosis!
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I'm sure Bond won't mind :D
Apparently shagging and having sex with a colleague is equal to harrasment. I bow to your superior intellect, Sir. Bond isn't very professional in terms of spy rule book but that doesn't make him harasser/sex obsessed. You can't understand the difference between higher sex drive and obsession/harrasment so there is no point engaging with you.
I am done here, your ignorance, bigotry and hypocrisy actually have it beat.
Seeking to have sex with all non-elderly female colleagues is on the edge of harassment, yeah.
See my post above. You've rather cherry-picked that one word and hung a whole crusade on it.
I'm a bigot? Because I think trying it on with female work colleagues is perhaps a bit outdated? That is a new definition of bigotry on me!
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And I'm a hypocrite... because I do that with all my female colleagues? You'll have to break that one down for me :)
I'm not exactly taking these accusations terribly seriously, as you may have noticed :D
But where did he ever do that?
Where did he ever hit on a colleague from work? Except for Moneypenny, and even then i always found it to be more of a game between the two. Bond can get all the women he wants on a mission, why would he risk having an affair with Moneypenny, a woman he can't get rid of and who knows his Boss?
I think realistically speaking, women at work would be off limits to him. Except maybe for a harmless flirt, like Penelope Smallbone - and even then MP tells her "that's all you'll ever get from him". He is neither needy nor addicted. He's proficient and strategic to some degree ( He's not even interested in Vesper at first, a colleague (technically) and he's shagging villains mistresses so they turn against them, which worked very well for him in FRWL, GF, TB, so much so that Fiona Volpe made a speech about it).
We did this on the previous page where I asked you "Can you think of a female colleague under the age of 70 CraigBond doesn't attempt to shag?"
Moneypenny, Fields, Vesper (not quite an MI6 colleague but certainly on a mission with him and working for the British Government).
When did he ever have a colleague he didn't hit on? :)
And incidentally: 'harmless flirts' aren't really harmless any more. That's just the way it is: and I'm know that's coming from a 'bigot' like me. :D
I do find Bond's attitude to women in those old films funny because he's a terrible dick. But it's not good and if he were real, the way he sees women as sex objects, especially at the office, would not be cool at all. But I think even at the time, we were supposed to laugh at Bond's famous "a woman?" in Moonraker. In those moments we're supposed to laugh at him slightly, or at least kind of enjoy that he can get away with being such a terrible man!