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Amusing. But pointless.
Overall, I think Craig's Bond is just going to have fun with the tension, whereas Nomi will take it more seriously, which reflects their work ethic to some degree, although I think with Bond it's more of a face value thing. He's incredibly competent and a great agent but sometimes he presents more of an ego and a laidback attitude, which Nomi isn't going to enjoy at first.
And to me this is the main reason why her character being a 00 agent, maybe even 007, is a great idea.
Also, sorry to go on, but the whole face value might even be concept approached with Paloma. As I won't be surprised if they go the Goodnight way with some of her first interactions for some humour, only for her to go full badass agent during the party scene. Didn't de Armas say that Paloma is quite new to all this? So might make Bond think she's not as capable.
Oh no, no. The titles ;) And all those octopus shenanigans.
If feminists dont like that,then thats their problem.They can go watch Captain Marvel,Star Wars:The Last Jedi,or some other woke nonsense.
It’s crazy that despite Fleming himself having ended MR with Bond and Gala Brand go their separate ways, it took 53 years for any Bond film to have the balls to do that with QOS not having Bond and Camille not sleep together, and it felt right.
I feel like the film is a good first draft but just needed a lot more work.
Very much agree with this, but because it has Olga Kurylenko ( :x ) in it, that automatically pushes it up a few places in my rankings!
Could be CGI :P
I do wonder if Paloma might not survive..?
He wasn't bluffing..? He was going to resign, because his ego was bruised in fact. Moneypeny just saved him and gave him time to reconsider.
That's a good observation, I hadn't thought of that.
Or The Living Daylights ;)
Who says it has to be romantic? Bond is a womaniser,he bangs women because he can and more often than not,the women are willing.You must have had a very sheltered life if you think men and women sleep together just because of romance.Nothing wrong with a consenting couple banging just for fun!
There's plenty of porn out there.
Yes there is,whats your point? Bond has always been a womaniser.Its part of his character.I would say the only women in the movies he was actually in love with were Tracey,Paris,and Vesper.
The rest are just sexual conquests.
I feel like you're missing out on a key ingredient that even womanisers need to make their pursuits worthwhile for them, which is sexual chemistry. Romance isn't the same as love.
What you are describing is more like a sex addict, which Bond isn't.
It always seemed to me that he wasn't totally serious about resigning, that it was more of an impulsive act on his part and a way to protest. When Bond gets that stern "request granted", you can see Bond looks upset that nothing came out of it, before Moneypenny points out what the note says.
Exactly. Anyone that knows the Bond formula well enough should understand that the conceit is that Bond will have conquests that are typically the supporting characters like Sylvia Trench, Jill Masterson, Patricia Fearing, etc. That's where there is not love or romance, it's just pure sexual outlets between consenting adults. However, it's the leading actresses that are always more romanticized compared to conquests because they're the ones that Bond is with at the very end, and you're supposed to be given the impression that they'll have a relationship, despite the fact they always run on the short side since we never see them in the next film. This is why we get an exchange like this in DAD:
James Bond: Do you believe in bad luck?
Jinx: Let's just say my relationships don't seem to last.
James Bond: I know the feeling.
That's rather explicitly telling you that Bond has had multiple relationships in the past, a and that it's a clear reference to the leading Bond actresses. You don't typically refer to fleeting sexual encounters as "relationships". You would never hear a character like Sylvia Trench make an expression about being in love with Bond, because that's reserved for Tatiana Romanova "I love you, I love you, it's true".
And with FYEO, there IS a clear attempt to say that they have a relationship at the end because they build it up (rather unconvincingly) with bits like the Italian horse rider expressing "amor amor!" after watching Bond and Melina talking.
I do think the idea of Bond having romance at the end is really more of a carryover from the novels, where Bond gets easily smitten with the women in a way that suggests it's not purely a desire to only bang them.
Agreed, bond have higher sex drive, a sex addict can't live without having sex. Bond on the other hand can, he choose to pursue women for casual sexual encounter not the other way around. Even though personally i don't believe in casual encounters but there is nothing wrong with that as long as two consenting adults are enjoying it.
It’s an impulsive act, sure: but he means it- it’s not a bluff. He goes and packs his stuff out of his desk on his own: he’s not doing that for show because there’s no one to see it. He’s upset, yes: his pride is very dented.
With Lazenby flaunting his youthful swagger all around the film, and that he's actually EAGER to look for Blofeld ('something of a must for me') I just don't buy the idea that he would be that serious about resigning and there's no sense that he's worn out from the years of service, which is why I get the impression he was partly bluffing because he's so cocky things will turn out his way if he pushes the right buttons. This is partly why I've always advocated that Connery could pull off an adaptation of the novel, particularly because I could buy his Bond finally becoming weary after all these years and seeing Tracy as a new path he could take.
It's funny how stories can be adjusted for old/young Bond: I was just saying elsewhere that Living Daylights could actually be just slightly adjusted to be a final Bond film for an older Bond- tired of the grubby arms dealing/drug running plot of it and the nasty little missions like the defection sniper routine, he goes off with an illegally defected (older) Kara at the end.
Mendes had also said that SF was based on the latter Fleming novels, which I can understand why it might have turned off certain fans because we had just seen Bond as an upstart in CR, and SF was fast forwarding Craig Bond all the way to his latter weary years.
I see Bond of the films as pretty much the same as Book Bond. When it comes to the main Bond Girl, he "falls" for her every time. Is taken with her in a romantic way. Includes Gala Brand, who it turns out is already taken herself.
So no, not love and maybe not applied to Fields or that lady on the yacht off Gibraltar (though Dalton could have followed up after the mission). But romantically pursues women, yes. It's part of the character and better for the story, however cold he can be on the job.
True, usually. But he can be rattled by other things.....he certainly doesn’t like the mention of Tracy or Vesper in the films and in the YOLT novel he is actually depressed over Tracy’s death. That makes him interesting and.....almost, but not quite infallible.
Yes but that's not the point I was making. I didn't say he doesn't get upset.
Upset, annoying sure, but not about ego. He is a bit cold hearted sometimes. In SF he was shaking during marksmanship in mi6 and later while shooting severine but if you look closely, he wasn't much bothered by it while he missed to shoot severine.
You said by personal insults (and I'm not sure which insult you're saying he would be upset by..?) or by women being secret agents, which is to rather miss the specifics of the situation we're possibly looking at in this film.
And as suave said, he does get upset and rattled by events: his ego can be dented occasionally and his armour stripped.