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Yeah, me too. For his last movie, I would have preferred not to have him working alongside someone in the same profession.
It just seems like something she would write but who knows, of course.
Nomi just comes across as bitchy and annoying but I shouldn't say too much until after I've seen the film. From what I've seen, she just seems to have the sort of personality that I don't like in a person.
I agree with you both. I just wish Bond would literally fly solo. I mean, why oh why do they always have to give Bond a partner for the 3rd act. Most of the times, that's why 3rd acts suck. Jinx, Way Lin, or whatever, I've never liked it when Bond teams up with another agent (apart from 006 in GE, for obvious narrative reasons). One thing is teaming up with a character seeking revenge (Melinda, Camille, ...) but with an agent? Blah, never liked it. And it never worked for good effect, IMO.
We've seen only individual lines out of context though, not even a conversation yet. And Safin seems to have a worse personality. I would expect that in the early part of the film we're not supposed to like Nomi hugely: that's her role in it. We've seen that she doesn't think much of our man James to start with- obviously people who do that are rarely those who the audience side with initially.
I can't think of lines like that which Waller-Bridge has written before, which are you thinking of? Tonally it seems very close to a lot of Bond's dialogue from Spectre to me.
I prefer it to ones where he teams up with an army. That always left me cold.
TND and DAD are good negative examples of what I don't want to happen (I'd throw in 006, but that's a minority view) but I think Holly's presence in the third act of Moonraker is absolutely fine, and I also enjoy the team dynamic at the end of FYEO. So it can work. Hopefully, and presumably, by the third act Nomi isn't going to be lowering her sunglasses and acting like a badass poser.
Do you mean in the opening to GE? It's never occurred to me as being an issue, I must admit.
As with TND it looks like Bond is off on his own for a lot of the climax of this one anyway.
Yeah, I meant the opening. I have loads of issues with 006 anyway though, so it's me. But Natalya is another positive example. She's totally present in the final act, but has a different complementary skill set. It's perfect. Nomi leading or trailing with a giant gun is not promising. But again, like you, I suspect NTTD will be very much about James Bond being James Bond.
Nomi is in an uncomfortable situation: she's a relatively new agent (two years), who is confronting a senior/ex agent (possibly even taking his double-O number), and, as Lashana has said herself, she's a play-by-M's book kind of agent. She's trying to impress her superior, and she's trying to impress James Bond, so some of her "attitude" has come off as the character burying her own insecurities. She has to be full of bravado.
I don't think we will hear Nomi utter words like "your Momma" and the like... And although I have liked Berry in some other films, Lashana appears to be a far more subtle and polished actor.
Ha! Yes, very true :)
And it's a good point @mtm makes that if the filmmakers want us to like Nomi, she's not going to be an insufferable poser for two hours and 43 minutes. Their relationship will evolve, or (far less likely) we will be meant to dislike her.
If Saunders ever appeared in a TLD trailer, it was surely bits of him in full Jobsworth mode, not the later new best friend mode!
Bond is cooler when goes solo.
Having said that… in NTTD final showdown the two agent will split so there’s gonna be room for Bond doing his thing totally alone.
But I think there's a Bond film for each and every one of us just because of that. One likes to watch Bond alone on a mission, the other likes to see him with some sort of a partner That's the beauty of the series, there's something for everyone.
I just don't like buddy movies. Never did.
Yes, but he does also need someone to say cool things to :)
Yes, although obviously we've barely seen any of it, pretty much everything we have seen of the final assault/climax features Bond alone.
I think Saunders is a good comparison. You dont initially like him, and youre supposed not to, but he does help out Bond later on and we do start to warm to him, up until him untimely demise.
Yeah, that's irritating.
It would be good if Nomi gets put out of action when she's in Safin's lair and then it's just Bond for the last half at least.
It'll be interesting to see what happens at the end of this film. Will Nomi be killed? I hope so but that's probably wishful thinking. Will Bond stay with the service? I have a feeling he'll leave even though that's not what I want as Craig's films have all had continuity so when they usher in the new Bond they may disregard what happened before. My ideal scenario is that Nomi dies and Bond stays with the service and gets his 007 number back. He's quit before. It's overkill having him leave again although during the course of the movie he may not be officially working for the SIS again anyway. Having him stay with the service would have more poignancy. It's his life and the only kind of commitment he can have in it is for his employers.
I heard on the radio today that Barbara Broccoli is going to announce who the new Bond is soon after NTTD has been released. Has anyone else heard this or is it media rubbish?
Depends on where you heard it and whether it was a sourced, direct quote from BB herself. If it wasn't, then I would assume it is media rubbish.
Re: Nomi, can't say I like what I see from the trailer. But as others on here have pointed out, it makes a certain amount of narrative sense for her to be in the plot - given that Bond is not an agent and might need shadowing etc, and especially if his involvement early on is in aid of Felix and not endorsed by Mi6. And secondly, it's a pretty normal character/narrative trait for personalities to clash early on and then find common ground/mutual respect later. If Madeline wasn't in the film, we'd all assume Nomi was the Bond girl and that their antipathy to each other turns to lust by the end. As it does in LTK and TSWLM.
I would have preferred him on a solo mission, but I would also have preferred for him not to have retired, not for his five film run to be one long overarching storyline, not for Blofeld to have known him in childhood, and pretty much everything to have been different after the end of CR. But all those ships have sailed. All I have left is to hope NTTD gives me some entertainment and Bond related content that can hold a candle to the best stuff in the series.
Nomi/Lynch deserve to be seen before we make judgement.
I have my concerns over the Nomi character but I think that is the point of the marketing and the way the character has been shown to us.
I think the trailers want to place us in Bond's shoes of being unsure about Nomi and then as we see the film we'll come to not only respect her but like her, as I'm sure Bond will
I just hope Lea and Ana's characters aren't short changed. I hope Lea's character is better written this time round, she's a great actress and I'm certain she can make Madeline a stronger and honestly more likeable character.
I'm just hoping Ana is in the film for more than 10 minutes 😅
Even if it's just for ten minutes, I'm sure it will be great. After all, Ana is both a gorgeous woman (those legs are proof positive that God exists) and a very talented actress (watch Knives Out if you don't believe me). I have all confidence in her.
Completely agree mate, she is a stunning woman. After watching Knives Out and Hands Of Stone, you can see she is a fantastic underrated actress. I thought she was the star of Knives Out
I think it will be a bit of a missed opportunity if she isn't.
I'm just hoping Nomi is in the film for 10 minutes. ;)
I shouldn't say this, what with not having seen the film. I just get the feeling she'll be a bit of an irritating leech throughout the movie. I can speculate... :)
Grow up
I realize I am in the minority in this belief, but I also was when everyone was claiming Spectre was going to be OHMSS 2.0.
I've not seen it happen yet ;)