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Lol, Yeah, @Mallory....but it's fine though.
I loved it. Will see it again tomorrow with the family. No Bond trailer tonight, looking forward to that on the big screen as well. A movie experience to remember for sure.
I had the fortune of seeing it with subtitles, so had no problem following any of it. I can understand people who didn t catch some of the dialogue getting confused at times. The trailers shown here were for The New Mutants and a Norwegian film, Børning 3. There weren t many people attending, which was quite lovely. The only extra precautions taken were I had to give my phone number, and that people were scattered.
I greatly enjoyed the simultaneously complex but straightforward presentation and ethos behind things. It's golden Nolan makes films his way.
Probably movie of the year. This has probably been mentioned before, but it s hardly a coincidence that the title is a palindrome.
The domestic box office opening weekend for Tenet is projected to be around $24,500,000.
China's total (based on opening weekend)* + Domestic's total (based on opening weekend) + current international total would put Tenet at around $250 million world-wide. On a budget of $200 million.
* Assuming the film's legs are strong, which sadly does not seem to be the case based on audience reaction.
The rebus dates back to the Roman Empire.
Loved it even more, understanding more of Nolan's internal logic to this created world. As a thread through the story he sold me on The Protagonist and why he does what he does. His sense of duty. It's touched on several times to make sense of things, not least at story's end.
Movie theater experience was fine, I have a couple anecdotal things. Walking to our theater I could hear the sound of the No Time To Die from another--but it wasn't shown in ours. I'll have to see it with a future visit.
Last, the Mulan 27 May banner was on display. Unless there's some contractual thing involved, they need to extricate it.
First the sound - definitely the worst experience I have ever had at the cinema. I knew something was up right from the off, as the Bond trailer was too quiet, and the Dolby advert didn't come on either. Something wasn't right.
I complained to Vue 3 times during the film, because the dialogue scenes were too quiet. Then someone tampered with it and the action scenes became truly deafening. Later the manager admitted they had initially turned the sound down due to several complaints earlier yesterday about it being too loud. This has to be a first for me. That a chain cinema felt the need to tamper with the standard set volume.
So it was like watching a movie at home with a bad surround system. First you turn it up during the quieter moments so you can hear dialogue better, then turn it down again when all hell breaks loose, and every channel gets pushed to the max. Unfortunately in the cinema we had no such control at our disposal. How this sound got mixed and given a thumbs up as good to go is truly baffling. The dialogue is barely audible throughout.
Then the story. Too difficult to follow. I was lost from the beginning. People say you need to watch it a few times to understand it better, but is that the sign of a great film, or a great filmmaking talent? That it is incoherent to many on first viewing?
I was a huge fan of Nolan before seeing this, as he was my ideal choice as director for Bond. Thank Christ Babs stood her ground and didn't choose him as director. This proved the man is only human, and does have it in him to make a bad movie after all. This is Nolan's 1941 moment, without doubt. Let loose with no reigns, and he is a bad director. Nolan is no Kubrick (another director who could get absolute control over a major Hollywood budget), and this film proves it once and for all. Nolan indulged to excess, and the film suffers greatly because of it.
An abysmal mess of a movie, which is a crying shame, because there were some great ideas in there trying to get out, just let down by bad storytelling and an absolutely shocking sound mix. The person who did it should never work in film again, although Nolan needs to share the blame too, as he had ultimate control over this.
Tenet US opening weekend: between $9,750,000 to $10,500,000.
Tenet second international weekend: $52,000,000.
Tenet current word-wide total: $150,000,000.
Tenet has barely beaten the opening domestic weekend of The New Mutants.
But barely $10m is poor, no two ways about it.
Unless Wonder Woman 1984 gets delayed, as it comes out in just under 4 weeks from now. 2 weeks after that, Candyman and Death on the Nile are releasing, and another 2 weeks later is Black Widow which will further take screens away from Tenet.
EDIT: Deadline reports $20+ millions (counting Canada as well where the film came out last week).
That is a 4 day domestic opening weekend of $20,2 million, instead of the normal 3 days. If you remove the Canadian box office results, Tenet has barely grossed $10 million at the US box office this weekend. It was projected to open at $25 million.
So....I ventured back to theatres today to see Tenet. Firstly, it was a great experience (and even saw the Dune teaser!).
I feel this is a movie designed to be seen multiple times. In fact, a number of my criticisms above feel somewhat redundant on a second viewing. Tenet is, effectively, a puzzle and part of the draw is finding all the angles and seeing how the strings are brought together.
I found it to be a deeply immersive and, actually, a pretty fun film. I think my initial criticisms stand, but there is something deeply complex and about this film that beggars repeat viewing. Nolan has clearly done his best to tie the story into as neat a bow as he can, and it is fairly seamless once you know where to look.
It almost felt like the film was revealing itself to me in a new way the second time around. It was helped by the sound-mix not being so overbearing so I could now hear the dialogue (though the score was less impressive in the mix in this cinema - which I suppose I could trade-off on second viewing).
But this is a deeply stylish, complex and gorgeous espionage thriller. Even if it is flawed, it is certainly ambitious. That in itself is worth your time. The fact Nolan has that much faith in his audience to keep up with him is pretty great testament to his faith in the audience. In this respect, Tenet is definitely worth a rewatch. If it's still in cinemas in November, I'll be sure to venture out and catch it again...
I'll upgrade my rating to ⭐⭐⭐⭐/5
Seeing it twice, I think part of why I'm taking to the film is that I'm reacting to it as an immersive experience. That was already on my mind before being mentioned above. I'd heard the feedback that dialog was difficult to hear (glad for that), and that's cooked into the assault on the opera house/other scenes with the masks and industrial backgrounds and more.
Reminds me how the intense opening to Quantum of Solace turned some folks off on their first viewing, frustrating complete understanding of every detail for what's going on. But there's plenty of sound and vision to follow the action and plot through those sequences.
So Tosca's not for everyone is my thought. And it's good Nolan does things his way.
1. Not among Nolan's best efforts.
2. Goransson's score is fantastic...I had him on the short list for Bond 25 a few years ago.
3. Quite similar to Inception
4. This is close to what a Nolan Bond film might look/feel like.
5. Speaking of Bond: I am more convinced than ever that Pattinson would have made a great James Bond.
6. No sound problems at my theater.
7. Did I get this right? Neil was Kat's son?
8. Damn, is Elizabeth Debicki sexy.
Absolutely...So much of my enjoyment the second time stemmed from actually being able to hear the bloody film's dialogue! Initially, I went to the BFI IMAX, which was an a amazing experience, but the dialogue was close to inaudible. Everything else was VERY LOUD. The second theatre I went to was a local one. They had clearly lowered the mix.
This time, the score was turned down and the dialogue was turned up. A good example is the car chase where Gorannson's score was more of a low hum. At the IMAX, the sound on the chase nearly blew my head off. I saw the film yesterday with 3 other people - who were all seeing it for the first time - and they all understood the plot no problem. Sound is so so important to a film as complex as Tenet.
I think it's implied heavily that Max is Neil....After all, the last thing Neil said was 'See you at the beginning' and during that final sequence, whilst you can hear Neil narrating something poignant and the Protagonist watches Kat and Neil walk off. Plus, 'Neil' is the last 4 letters of 'Maximilien' backwards.
That ending with Kat and Max felt pate and cliched the first time I saw Tenet. But the second time, it's puzzle-book ambiguity began to emerge.
Also, Debicki is a marvellous actress. But 'sexy' is not a word I'd describe her with. She's elegant and regal instead. It's one of the big problems that Tenet has, it's a very chaste film. So sexless and lacking a sense of mischief. Something the Bond films always did well....
Really the 'Neil' character should have been made to be a woman. That was the real 'Bond girl' of the film. I could imagine Natalie Dormer in the role...though R-Patz was immensely charming as the English dandy.
Maybe that's why Tenet is in a bit of a struggle.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/tenet-china-box-office-debut-eight-hundred-1234761053/
Doesn't explain why Tenet has grossed so low domestically ($11 million). That's just over $4 million more than The New Mutants's opening weekend.
Yeah. It's just that The Eight Hundred is now on 336.3million from a budget of 80million. So I thought that is huge considering the times we live in.
You do know covid is still prevailing in the Gucci states right?
Let me rephrase the question: whose brilliant was it to release a $200 million budget film in the middle of a global pandemic? A $11 million opening might seem strong given the current situation, but it is an abysmal number when putting the budget into consideration. Tenet will need legs not achieved since Titanic to even reach $100 milllion domestic. It is likely that the last chance this film had of breaking even has disappeared after this weekend.