Where have all the beautiful Bond girls gone?

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  • I can't believe so many people like Vesper... I thought she had a weird face and an extremely irritating voice. But hey, I'm not a guy. Maybe I don't see it. :p

    I don't think ALL Bond girls should be curvy and have no brains. You have to understand that women watch these movies too, and it would be quite insulting to have all Bond girls be like Mary Goodnight.

    That said, I'm perfectly fine with having one "eye candy" Bond girl and one with some character and smarts in the same movie. I agree though that QoS didn't use the girls to their full potential. (Although if you want to see Olga Kurylenko in THAT kind of role, go watch Hitman or Max Payne. Preferably Hitman ;) )
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    YOU are the one who should have another look....

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    Her body is perfect.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    YOU are the one who should have another look....

    gemmaarterton2.jpg

    Her body is perfect.

    If you like skeletic women...

    And in the next film, should the main Bond girl be a fat, bald, paraplegic woman, with one eye missing, a huge scar on her left cheek, and amputated from one arm ? Surely if that fits the story you'll say she's a fantastic Bond girl ?

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    If you like skeletic women...

    Print that photo out and ask the first 10 people you meet whether they think she's too thin or not. Unless you live among obese people, all of them will say she's not too thin.

    I understand and accept that you sincerely belive Gemma looks too thin on that photo but I also think there is something seriously wrong with your idea of how a healthy body should look like.
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    For your sake, DC, I really hope there are no militant feminists on this forum.
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    For your sake, DC, I really hope there are no militant feminists on this forum.

    I really hope there are.

  • SharkShark Banned
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    Shark wrote:
    There ain't enough flesh on those bones anymore.

    Have a look again at Caterina Murino or Gemma Arterton... Not enough flesh?

    Caterina was bony and resembled a horse, while Gemma was Sandgate bus stop material.

    You need to raise your standards mate.
  • SharkShark Banned
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    YOU are the one who should have another look....

    gemmaarterton2.jpg

    Her body is perfect.

    The only thing missing here is a tramp stamp.
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    Shark wrote:
    Caterina was bony and resembled a horse, while Gemma was Sandgate bus stop material.

    You need to raise your standards mate.

    Someone was rejected by a looot of women...

  • SharkShark Banned
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    Shark wrote:
    Caterina was bony and resembled a horse, while Gemma was Sandgate bus stop material.

    You need to raise your standards mate.

    Someone was rejected by a looot of women...

    Thanks to the powers of single malt whisky, no.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    YOU are the one who should have another look....

    gemmaarterton2.jpg

    Her body is perfect.

    Agreed. People sometimes confuse small with skinny. You know they're skinny when you can see their ENTIRE spine. There's nothing wrong with this girl.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    I don't understand the concern. The modern Bond girls are much more attractive than the earlier Bond woman.

    And by the previous statement, I'm using the earlier Bond women of Rosa Klebb, the Swiss Gatekeeper and Irma Bunt as a basis of comparison.
  • SharkShark Banned
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    Gemma isn't skinny. She's just plain.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @DC007 hasn't learned the difference between skinny and fit yet. There must be a lot of chubby women around his home if he thinks Gemma is too skinny.
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    I did not care for Camille too much. I prefer Vesper. but of course one has to feel nostalgic for the early bond girls:
    FIONA, SOLITAIRE, DOMINO, MELINA HAVELOCK, JILL, PAM, LUPE
    These women were Knockouts.
    I have to say it now and here: I was not impressed with the two girls they have cast for SkyFall. I must say that Babs looked hotter and she's 51...
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    YOU are the one who should have another look....

    gemmaarterton2.jpg

    Her body is perfect.

    I prefer my women to have more meat on their bones and at least some boobs...


  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Women don't need breasts to be sexy. People need to get their heads out of the gutters.
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    Women don't need breasts to be sexy. People need to get their heads out of the gutters.

    So I guess Maud Adams is your all time favorite Bond girl? More power to you. but our minds are not in the gutters, we just prefer curvy women...
  • @DC007 hasn't learned the difference between skinny and fit yet. There must be a lot of chubby women around his home if he thinks Gemma is too skinny.

    Agreed completely. I don't understand how anyone can look at that photo and think "skeletal". There are no ribs, breastbone, scapula, or spine sticking out. No super-defined ab muscles. There's still a waist there; she isn't straight up and down. If that's skeletal then I can't even imagine what average looks like. If you see the full length picture of her in that black bikini from behind there's no way that she's skinny much less skeletal.

    I also find that Arterton brought loads of personality to her character - one of my favourite Bond Girls in a long time.

    PanchitoPistoles said something above which I think is important: "I understand and accept that you sincerely belive Gemma looks too thin on that photo but I also think there is something seriously wrong with your idea of how a healthy body should look like." I agree completely but I think that part of the problem is that the body belongs to Gemma Arterton.

    When someone says that actresses are "unsexy, dear (sic) I say repulsive", "skelatic", and "she's a travesty of a Bond girl" those are such over-the-top statements that I believe that the person is coming from a very emotional place where reason and logic may be pushed aside.

    Yes, I know that you're very angry that Craig was in swim trunks but that doesn't make Arterton anorexic...



  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    ^
    I agree with you @thelordflasheart. I don't think @DC007 cares about Bond girls that are memorable for their role in the film or their depth. He just wants breasts and behind. And apparently he wants a fat Burger King worker to star in Bond 24 if he thinks Gemma is unhealthy. Pish posh. I want Bond girls with a personality and depth, not just a nice body and face. If you disagree, go watch a porno, but here we're all about Bond.
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    thanks for the awesome picture of Gemma. That is all I'm gonna say as i find this to be odd. One woman can be extremely sexy to one man and ugly to another. So why are we arguing or dissing people's personal tastes I find Hilary Duff attractive most think i'm insane because she can't act or sing (without the help of auto tune) I counter her body has nothing to do with either. Some here may find her skeletal others may not

    some like big breasts I prefer a B cup who is right who is wrong No one it's all a matter of taste!


    I just find it so interesting people can nitpick others personal tastes and claim their opinion is fact. daltoncraig thinks Moore is brilliant Great he want girls from the 60's perfect you prefer the more complex characters great. let let bygones be bygones. this has been my meager attempt to stop the bickering.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    ^ Amen!
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Please. Gemma Arterton is the kind of girl you wouldn't notice at a party or on the street... Sorry but Bond girls are meant to be the sexiest, most glamourous women on earth. Yes Gemma's got a pretty face, but put her in a bikini next to Domino or Honey Ryder, and she simple cease to exist... And no 0Brady I don't want a fat Burger King woman for Bond 24, don't exaggerate. No I want women with some meat on the bone... If you think the 80-something million people who saw QOS will salivate in front of that picture of Gemma, well I have no faith for humanity at all. C'mon honestly, just google Olga Kurylenko on google and look at her lingerie photos... Maybe she's still a little thin, but she's one sexy woman... Makes me wonder why she didn't wear some similar clothes or done a wonderful and sexy pose in bed to greet Craig for some action...

    Halle Berry was the exemple of the perfect Bond girl, physically... from the neck down I know... She looked fit, she had boobs, she knew how to look sexy when coming out of the water... Please, how can you compare Honey Ryder, or Tatiana or even Domino with Fields ? In the love scene in QOS it seems like if Craig sneezed while kissing her back she would collapse in a thousand piece... Yes as Shark said we need a Bond girl that can withstand the power of Craig has in bed, judging by his physical strenght.... Eva was very petite, as Shark said, I do wonder how she made it through the night with Craig at the end of CR...

    I find it appalling the point where the franchise is.,.. We've got this Bond actor, with tons of lingering shot of his muscular body, turning him into a sexual object, which he should never have been, while we've got a gallery of petite Bond girls that all look that they need a good meal... I am very annoyed that Camille didn't look like in the lingerie photos of the actresse... But then again Olga was skeletic in QOS, and the scar on her back was appallling...

    And these Bond girls are unsure of their beauty... Fields in the love scene was a farce... she looked just so ashamed and shy of being nude she hide herself underneath a blanket... need to say there wasn't much to hide... Please, Fields was meant to be a homage of the 60's Bond girls... She just missed every mark... she's small, she's very thin, she's shy of showing flesh...

    What happened ? Why do the actresses are scared and ashamed of showing some flesh ? Why did they take the role in the first place if they didn't want to fullfill their role of making the male audience salivate ?? More flesh in SF please, to redeem the last 2 films.....
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    Makes me wonder why she didn't wear some similar clothes or done a wonderful and sexy pose in bed to greet Craig for some action...
    Because it is very difficult to strike a sexy pose behind the wheel of a car, and Camille was in a hurry - she knew she'd been made.
    In the love scene in QOS it seems like if Craig sneezed while kissing her back she would collapse in a thousand piece...
    I'm pretty sure Bond sneezing in bed with any would be taken very poorly.
    We've got this Bond actor, with tons of lingering shot of his muscular body, turning him into a sexual object, which he should never have been,
    Why can't female audiences enjoy Bond films?
    I am very annoyed that Camille didn't look like in the lingerie photos of the actresse...
    Right, because gallivanting around the Bolivian desert in lingerie is practical.
    But then again Olga was skeletic in QOS, and the scar on her back was appallling...
    Her scar was directly related to her backstory - that she was caught in a house fire set by Medrano to cover up his crimes.
    Fields in the love scene was a farce... she looked just so ashamed and shy of being nude she hide herself underneath a blanket...
    I see you completely ignore any characterisation whatsoever. Fields was clearly intended to be young and naive, and felt that everything had to be done by the book. And how is it a bad thing that she "hid herself under a blanket" given that no Bond Girl has every exposed her breasts on camera before?
    Why do the actresses are scared and ashamed of showing some flesh ?
    While Fields was a little more covered up than some of the other actors to play Bond Girls, she was only a little more covered up.
    Why did they take the role in the first place if they didn't want to fullfill their role of making the male audience salivate ??
    Maybe because women in the 21st Century are more than pieces of meat.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    How many times will you explain the film to me ?? I don't have to agree with or like everything happened in QOS, do I ? Do you really believe I want Camille in lingerie in a Bolivian desert ? Don't be ridiculous. Don't you understand I think the film should have been totally rewritten to allow Kurylenko to show her beauty ?... preferably in lingerie, judging by her google pictures...

    My opinion is that Camille was a farce, and she doesn't fulfill any of the main Bond girl objectives. Obviously the film has to be rewritten drasticly to allow Olga Kurylenko to show her beauty. And the scar was horrible, unneeded and unsexy... Appalling to think they'd do that to the main Bond girl...

    And again, if the main Bond girl of the next film was a fat, bald, paraplegic woman, with one eye missing, a huge scar on her left cheek and amputated of one arm, would you say she is a fantastic Bond girl if her character fitted the story ?

    Bond girls aren't meant to be overly-complex melodramatic roles... They are supposed to be the sexiest women on earth... So I really hope in SF they will put the women back in the place... Making the male salivate for one part, being sexy - the sexiest on the planet - and just be glamorous. Vesper and Camille were farcical, terrible Bond girls, they missed all the marks of what Bond girls are meant to be.

    But, alas, what I heard about Harris and Marlohe at the press conference really frighten me that we will again have over complex, boring dull Bond girls... And by the look she had at the press conference, Harris needs a good meal or 2... She was so unsexy... I don't want another skeletic Fields again...
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    My opinion is that Camille was a farce, and she doesn't fulfill any of the main Bond girl objectives.
    Your complaints about the character would be valid if Camille was written as a traditional Bond Girl. Which she clearly was not, and was therefore never intended to "fulfil any of the main Bond Girl objectives".
    And the scar was horrible, unneeded and unsexy...
    It was completely necessary. Camille survived the house fire. The scar was a physical reminder of that, and a visual cue for the audience. It connected Camille to her backstory; if she had no scar, it would be difficult to believe her child-like fear at the end of the film.
    And again, if the main Bond girl of the next film was a fat, bald, paraplegic woman, with one eye missing, a huge scar on her left cheek and amputated of one arm, would you say she is a fantastic Bond girl if her character fitted the story ?
    I'd have to see it before I could pass judgement on it.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    It was completely necessary. Camille survived the house fire. The scar was a physical reminder of that, and a visual cue for the audience. It connected Camille to her backstory; if she had no scar, it would be difficult to believe her child-like fear at the end of the film.

    Stop explaning the film to me. The scar was appalling, unsexy and unneeded. Bond girls are the sexiest women on earth, not women with horribly unsexy scars.
    I'd have to see it before I could pass judgement on it.

    Now I cannot take you seriously anymore. It is beyond my imagination that a Bond fan would accept such a Bond girl. Your none-arguments are not credible anymore. Just because it 'fits the story' doesn't mean it's good. If we follow your argument, we cannot complain about ANY scene of ANY Bond film, or even ANY scene of ANY movie ever made, since every scene would be acceptable because they fit their plots.
  • SharkShark Banned
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    Women don't need breasts to be sexy.

    The above comment is sponsored by NOW.

    What the hell is wrong with my generation? No pubes, not tits, no arse, no lips and no hips. If I wanted that I date a mole rat.

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    Stop explaning the film to me.
    Then stop making comments that suggest you don't understand it.
    The scar was appalling, unsexy and unneeded.
    Right, because a physical blemish clearly decreases a woman's worth. If she is anything less than physical perfection, then she has no worth as a human being.

    Didn't we have some militant feminists on back-order or some such?
    Bond girls are the sexiest women on earth, not women with horribly unsexy scars.
    This is what I mean when I say "stop making comments that suggest you don't understand the film". You know perfectly well that there is a connection between Camille's scars and her entire motivation in the story.
    It is beyond my imagination that a Bond fan would accept such a Bond girl.
    I didn't say that I would accept her - just that I would not judge her until I saw her in the film. Please stop putting words in my mouth
    Just because it 'fits the story' doesn't mean it's good.
    I'd much prefer someone who fits the story rather than someone who has no purpose being there whatsoever.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Exactly Shark... Real women are hard to find these days... Thanks to the feminist society... So it's time the Bond girls start being real women again, real sexy women not afraid of showing some flesh... The Bond girls now are following the trend of girls like you've just describe - no boobs, no pubes, no hips, no lips, no arse... The 007 franchise now echoes the sad state of the world... Sorry but I want escapism in Bond films, not a cold hard reality... so please more flesh and more sexy women in future Bond films.
    You know perfectly well that there is a connection between Camille's scars and her entire motivation in the story.

    But is ISN'T needed. The film could well have been rewritten to oust the appalling and unsexy scar. And the entire back story was unneeded. I don't want overly complex, melodramatic and psychodramatic Bond girls in Bond movie. They should be sexy, glamarous, simple (or perhaps a bit developped but not too much) and make the male audience salivate. Anything else is not acceptable in Bond films IMO. Anything else and the Bond girls misses all the marks of what they should be and do.

    And I want fun and escapism in Bond films, not a dramatic and overly-dark back story of her family being killed and her house burnt... I want escapism and fun, not boring and horryfing stories... Bond movies are meant to be fun, and Bond girls meant to be sexy. I fear the last 2 films have completly steered away and missed all the marks of what they should do and what the Bond girls should be and do and look like.
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