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Well, for years I believed that story. But then somebody here at the forum said, that TN had his own orchestrations for the Bond theme, but MGW and BB insited to use Arnold's version from CR, apparently because they did not want to have to pay more royalties to Monty Norman, who dragged EON and many others through the courts. Now I am not an insider, and I don't know, which story is the true one.
EDIT: I was not too happy to learn that Eric Serra would compose the GE score, I could bnot imagine him to deliver a Bondian score. But then, apart from the dreadful "Ladies First" and the tank chase score (which was replaced by John Altman's version of the Bond theme), I quite liked it.
We fans tend to speculate a lot. The idea of MGW and BB insisting on using Arnold's arrangement wouldn't surprise me, but if anyone can verify that it would be even better.
Many suspected Newman of just being lazy for recycling old cues, but thanks to @Murdock for clearing it up that it's on Lee Smith and Mendes for using what should have just been a standard temp score.
Yeah, I don't buy it either. Norman receives royalties every time the theme is played in a film regardless of whether it's a new rendition or not. His claim doesn't end if it's re-orchestrated. If they used Arnold's "The Name's Bond, James Bond" instead of having Newman re-record it, they would still have to pay royalties.
It’s been missing too long now, though. Nearly 20 years without a full on Bond theme blaring is unacceptable. They should use it in the PTS. It’s wasted over the end credits.
Screw the Navy uniform and the skiing and all the other irrelevances people want to see. Craig backed by the Bond theme in an action scene is a must before he departs.
100% this. Give me that Bond theme goodness.
"Thomas Newman’s approach to the James Bond theme was to base it on arrangements by Arnold, mainly the finale cue for "Casino Royale," entitled 'The Name's Bond ... James Bond.' Like "Quantum," "Skyfall" ended with the gun barrel, while "Spectre" opened with it, but both were based on Arnold's cue. It's a credit to David Arnold that his interpretation of the classic John Barry arrangement of Monty Norman's theme is valued so highly."
So according to their research Thomas Newman simply reused Arnold's arrangements because he preferred it over Barry's. The full write up is on the link below.
https://rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/the-musical-history-behind-the-james-bond-gun-barrel-sequences
That would also be great. I love some musical fan service.
Would love a new arrangement of both of these!
Yeah, I don’t recall him calling it a “favorite” but rather referring to AVTAK as a fond memory being his first Bond film. Now both he and Mendes have brought up Moore films as being part of their childhood upbringing. Wouldn’t be surprised if the a director during the next decade will cite GE as their childhood Bond film.
I don't know, whether they want to use the "007 theme" (not to be confused with the Bond theme, but then would it not be Fukunaga's decision to use it?
YES YES YES
Been saying this for ages.
They've used it briefly, I think in DUD, during the hovercraft chase, in the middle of some horrible electronics.
Deadly Under Duress. ;)
Sure, Barry, in a fair world, should have been credited as co-writer of the theme, because he didn't just arrange it, he altered it and added a few key elements that ultimately turned it into the juggernaut we all know and love, and he was able to do it again over and over with "007" or "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" for instance without any need for a Monty Norman. But he had been brought to EON at the 11th hour to arrange a theme for the titles of Dr. No based on his reputation as a fast (and cheap) worker, and he was in no position to negotiate a credit, or to get one in retrospect when he was established as the main composer of the franchise. Norman's contract was tight, and EON may not have wanted to jeopardize their rights to use the theme the same way they had lost part of the intellectual property to Kevin McClory.
Also, remember that in comics it took something like 80 years for writer Bill Finger to get credited for creating Batman, as artist Bob Kane had negotiated a deal with the publisher in which he would be the sole person to get a credit. But he never took part in developing the characters apart from his idea of having a vigilante dressed like a bat. It's just that Kane was in a position of authority at the publisher and Bill Finger was the rookie who was expendable.
That's putting it mildly, 007.
Lol yeah I was vehemently opposed to Craig.
And gave Thomas Newman a chance... which turned out in me having three songs of him on my Itunes...
DAD, which was a dud ;)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dud